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On a positive note. Just landed back on Near home. Went to my secret JY to see what Distributors they have (since I can’t buy the parts I need. Look at all these Z’s. All have engines and trannys. All manuals . Got another dizzy for $50 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well, we have become a slave to cheap Chinese products. When the fiscal bottom line, quarterly profits, and stock value drive decisions of company executives these things happen. We’ve sent critical industries supply chain shipped to a corrupt, regime where humans have no value other than their economic contribution. We look the other way as consumers. They’re cheaters in just about every way. Hopefully this pandemic teaches all of us a lesson. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Quick update. Lot going on at home right now. I have a good solution going. Made the first group of 20-ish. Size is great, appearance comparison to original is pretty good. Drilling the hole after the initial forming is the only option. Any hole in the piece to start with is a) too hard to center, and tears out immediately, pretty much like the fender washers. Using a center hole in the FM part of the die makes drilling the hole in the middle very simple. Once I got the dies centered to each other consistently, I can make millions of identical little wrinkled creatures that only take about 175 finalization steps each. Easy peasy. I’ll have pictures to post of the whole process stages later in the week.

I run cut (2 coils cut off) springs on my late 260 race car along with Nissan Sentra jounce bumpers cut such that they are just in contact at curb height. The cut springs and added jounce bumpers raise the spring rate from 120 lbs./in to 200 lbs./in. They are still pretty soft, but I run large stabilizer bars. The car handles great.

That's an unusually esoteric example, and done with a very wide marker. A bit of a calligrapher, this guy. It's a Kanji 'Uwasa' ('rumour'/'gossip'), but could also be read as 'Son' [pronunciation: as in 'Sondheim'] ('loss'). Seems likely to be another example of workplace shenanigans and/or 'banter' between workmates. Other examples have shown true relevance to the product/variant/destination (as in the 'Igirisu' and 'ENG' etc versions) but when dozens of same product/variant/destination examples were going down the line like a sausage machine I guess there might have been space and opportunity to break the boredom with some coded messages between workstations. Been there, done that... For reference, Kanji 'Uwasa':

Travel bans are needed unfortunately.... a month and a half too late but we have to deal with Mainland China's gift to the world. The whore has given the Johns the dose it seems. A land of gangsters oppressing its people to slavery yet the world signed up to this immoral trade to save costs.... now the shoe drops....currently the supply chain has stopped and critical materials and products are held by Mainland China.... such as a key ingredient for drugs and even a key ingredient for the Wuhan-Virus test kits. The pain of the junky when the pusher runs out is nothing compared to what will soon happen. Mainland China just ****ed the whole planet. Good thing they did not have enough time to mix the Ebola virus into the batch (which they secretly stole from a Canadian Level 4 Lab less than a year ago and brought to their Wuhan Lab.....for helping Africa??? or a Bio-Weapon??? One guess). https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/ebola-henipah-china-1.5232674

My concern was the steel bar would bind up the cam towers because they wouldn't move at the same rate the rest of the head would or cause leaks

And you could have looked up Jalex and helped him with his ongoing carb float adjustment. ?

Klassic Fab has been manufacturing quality VW Bus floor replacements for years and has recently started manufacturing floor pans and frame rails, etc for 240Zs and for other vintage Japanese cars. Here's their website: https://kfvintagejdm.com/ Pictures courtesy of The 240z Guild.

As far as I can tell, this is a new record for the sale of an early-series Datsun 240z. This series one car more than doubled the selling price compared to other cars that we have seen sold on an auction site called Bring A Trailer. The final bidder placed a whopping $310,000 US dollars on the table and walks away with a very nice example of this classic Z. The seller is no-doubt a very happy person and BAT pulls in their max commission of $5,000 (plus listing fees) to help sell this record-breaking car. Not a bad way to buy a car while standing in line at the grocery store or waiting for your plane to taxi down the runway. This Z is a very nice example of an early series Z with a green paint job and butterscotch interior. We've captured the images in a link below for documentation purposes. If you're looking for some image samples for your project, this should no-doubt be a great place to find them. Thanks to our friends over at Bring A Trailer, I've documented the sale here (in case the original ad goes away). The details are below, and also don't forget to visit our discussion thread to see what other members have to say about this car. Here's a link to our gallery documenting this vehicle: ---------------- Original BAT Ad Description - Courtesy of Bring A Trailer --------------- This 1971 Datsun 240Z was built in May of 1970 and delivered new to Munson Datsuns of Marion, Indiana. Dealership owner James Munson retained the car and later gave it to his son, Ronald Munson, as a dental school graduation present. The vehicle was driven infrequently over the years and was stored first in the dealership showroom and later at the Munson family home. Dr. Munson passed away in May 2019, and a few months later his dental practice and 240Z were purchased by a friend and fellow dentist. Finished in Racing Green over brown vinyl, the car retains its original 2.4L inline-six and now shows just 21,750 miles. The selling dealer acquired it in December 2019 and has since adjusted the carburetors, changed the oil, mounted new tires, and performed detailing. This Series I 240Z is offered in Seekonk, Massachusetts with its original window sticker, an extra set of period wheels, additional spares, and a clean Indiana title. The unibody is finished in Racing Green (907) and wears white rocker stripes. Series I cars feature 240Z badging on the C-pillars, as well as horizontal vents in the rear hatch. A rear defroster was optioned new and features Series I-only vertical heating elements. Paint meter readings taken by the selling dealer are said to show measurements of between 2-5 mil. The exterior was also detailed by the seller, but the finish was not compounded or sanded. Factory 14″ steel wheels are dressed with 1972 hubcaps and wear new 175-series Vredestein Sprint Classic tires. The backs of the wheels were powder coated by the Munsons. Gallery photos show that one wheel is date stamped from 1969, while the other three were manufactured in 1970. The included set of 14″ Western Wheel Turbine wheels was ordered through Munson Datsuns and used on the car until the seller’s acquisition. A video tour, including a discussion of the car’s history, is attached above. The cabin features brown vinyl upholstery, including textured inserts on the seats and door panels and diamond-patterned center tunnel covering. Z-branded mats line the floors, and aluminum sill plates feature the Datsun moniker. Protective plastic remains on the rear panels, seatbelts, and behind the door arm rests. The key number sticker is retained on the inside the glovebox door, as pictured in the gallery. A factory three-spoke steering wheel frames the speedometer and tachometer, while auxiliary instrumentation in the center dash monitors water temperature, oil pressure, amperage, and fuel level. The five-digit odometer shows just 21,750 miles. The center stack includes heater controls and a signal-seeking Hitachi AM radio, which is connected to a powered antenna. A driving video can be viewed above. Black carpeting covers the rear cargo area, under which resides an aftermarket spare wheel wearing a Bridgestone Super Speed tire. The 2.4-liter OHC inline-six was rated for 150 horsepower at 5,600 rpm and 146 lb-ft of torque at 4,400 rpm when new. In December 2019 the seller adjusted the carburetors, replaced the fuel filter, gapped the spark plugs, and performed an oil change. The distributor has been converted to electronic ignition, and factory stickers in the engine bay can be seen in the gallery below. The L24 block is stamped 007463, which matches the engine numbers shown on the chassis plate and window sticker. Power is sent to the rear wheels via a fully-synchronized four-speed manual gearbox, and the power braking system features discs up front and drums out back. Additional photos of the underside are included in the gallery, showing factory paint marks and the four-wheel independent suspension. The original window sticker lists the options, engine number, and a suggested retail price of $3,757. Owner’s manuals, registration history, removed parts, and a 240Z-branded bra are also included in the sale. A video explaining the vehicle’s history and showing paint meter readings can be watched above. In preparation for this sale, the seller spoke with the vehicle’s original mechanic, Jim Mayo, who worked at Munson Datsun for 18 years and continued to service the car at the Munson home until 2019. A paint meter demonstration video has been added by the seller and is shown above.

Seeing as I'm just finishing up my dash restore ...

240260280, very nice transformation after clean up. 7tooZ, I think given your VIN#, you may have a very early Series II car. I believe the series one cars ended somewhere around 21,000. The way it's equipped would seem to suggest that.

18859 had - hatch vents - vertical defrosters - Nissan OHC valve cover - heat riser/flap - fuel door knob - AM seek radio

IF, and I say if, there was a "national car show judging". Right now, the best thing along the lines of a "national car show judging", by people who are at least familiar with Datsuns, is a ZCCA event. But then, there's no real provenance or recognition of a ZCCA Award. It's just a trophy. And the ZCCA judges are not going to compare paint color. What might make a better study is how someone comes to pay three times the car's maximum value for a car that wouldn't win the ZCCA's top award.

I did get a ZX distributor/. Picked the one that had the least rust. Post removal inspection makes me think it’s a reman but the parts I need looked good. The module doesn’t have any numbers so it been changed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Looks like they "collapsed" 2 of the ten. I'll count them Saturday. I need to rotate my tires anyhow. ?

It's inverted, but it is the Kanji 'Ji' (pronounced as in 'Jeep') which translates as 'letter' or 'character' as in 'Kanji' or 'Romaji'. @MikeB previously suggested some of these could be part of 'Burma Shave' type messages, and this example is a prime candidate for being part of a message made up from several dashes. On its own it makes little sense (to us, at least...).

Robin Hood's hoard?

cube or square law of volumes? Cube Root does not grow much: Perhaps the advance change is only for idle emissions and transition only?

I'm looking forward to the prospect of individual judges being 'invited' to show their certificates to prove they have taken the Ishihara Test for Colour Definciency... ?

I certainly don't think that spindly little loosely mounted steel tube will have enough strength to affect how the head itself reacts. It's mounted on squishy cork gaskets and will just squirm on those if necessary. The head will expand more (get longer) proportionally than the bar, so if anything, the bar be in tension when hot with the end bolts pulling against eachother. I'm expecting there's enough slop in the mounting bolt holes such that they won't "run out of clearance" and cause any significant force. However, if the mounting bolts are a precision fit on the bolts when cold, it'll be in tension when hot. Not enough to rip it in half, but tension none-the-less. Note to the manufacturer of that bar if they're reading this thread.... Make the end holes oversized some so that doesn't happen. Do some calculations and slot them if necessary. This looks like a one-off at this point, but I suspect it's a "toe in the water" test to see if there's more demand. The pics show this thing in a home hobby workshop on with home hobby machines. My read is this is a Z enthusiast who's original bar failed (like they all do) and he made two of them. One for his own car, and a second part to see if it would sell. If it sells for a good enough price, I bet he'll make more.

I used a small bead hone to clean out a set of strut tubes that were rusted inside. Worked pretty well I'd say.

I have seen what some of these have sold for. A few have broken into the 6 digit realm, but it takes a lot to get it to that condition. I don't feel I have the means to get a car to that point. I have not done anything with it yet. Just pulled the 78 seats out, and got the window rolled up. BAT is something to consider. I did retitle the thread, thanks for the suggestion.

Chamber size, compression, location of plug and chemistry of the gas affect the maximum advance setting. Higher compression/smaller chamber engines need less than lower compression/larger chambers.

34-38 ish is common to engines, not z specific. It was impirically determined back in 1429 by the Lindisfarne monks. The variations are through different chamber designs having minor differences in combustion speed.

I think the curve goes flat because that's the best you can do reliably with springs and weights and centrifugal force. Electronic systems may reduce advance after the initial peak as the engine gets up to peak torque and then increase again afterwards.

I was thinking of getting a Greenlee punch set to make easy round blanks. I noticed when I cut my square coupons into a hexagon, there was less distortion. I haven’t actually tried to start with a truly round blank to see what happens. I’m happy with what I’m making. And yes, I have seen the youtubes of people spinning HUGE aluminum disks in HUGE pots pans and other receptacles. Very long lever arms and very large lathes spinning them. Very impressive. I will not be trying that, even on a small scale on my lathe. I see another 3 week boondoggle coming up....

Another One! I believe it stands for strength

Thanks. Perhaps you could count the number of coils on a front spring for me, OE is 10 turns from the tip of the wire to the other tip. No rush on this.

Spent the last two days in Panama for work. No junkyards with Zs here and I still have my kidneys . Headed home, to rebuild that distributor.

Again, nice work! You can tell by looking at the stock washer that the OEM was doing it a little differently. You can see the shear line on the outside perimeter showing that they started with a round blank before the drawing operation. They probably stamped out the round blank OD and ID and then used a second stage die to draw the round blank into the cup shape. Someone more clever than I might even been able to do it all with just one die. So now that you have spent all that time on making a die set... Have you ever heard of "metal spinning" on a lathe?

Well the last week have been pretty busy at work, and i'm still working on some details of the house. but everything is finally calming down now and i have plans to kickstart the Z-project again soon and get some long overdue work done over the next months. So i got in touch with my Bodyshop guy to discuss a few details and then i just got an update from him from today. The old seat brackets got removed and sandblasted: Primered: And test fitted on the old cutout floorpan: And theis is how they look on the new floorpan, ready to weld it all back together:

Nail. Head. Direct hit.

I never said it did. Just that this guy is running around with his merry men claiming to be the greatest thing to happen to the s30 range in the past 50 years. Its wrong on so many levels.

So I just got off the phone with Klassic Fab . Very nice on the phone and apologized for the website snafu . He split shipping cost with me to make up for the inconvenience . They should be here next week so stay tuned . Sounds like I might be customer number 2 right now . I ordered floors, seat rails , frame rails .

You have a good point, it's just unfortunate that Kustom Fab used that clown to endorse their otherwise good product. I'm looking forward to ordering some of their panels.

https://www1.odcr.com/detail?court=048-&casekey=048-CF++9700047 https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=229228 https://www.kxii.com/home/headlines/Madill-man-discusses-embezzlement-charge-304260211.html https://forums.swedespeed.com/showthread.php?577207-Buyer-Beware-Swedish-Ops-Robert-Jackson-out-of-Jail-and-Flipping-Cars

Given his history, I just can't believe ANYTHING that character says!

I like the point about the tunnel shape . That is a big deal compared to what’s available now . Zed Findings floors are well made but don’t follow the tunnel shape correctly on the early Z .

And yet I've never seen it on any official Nissan documentation with regard to the Portuguese market cars. Personally speaking, I don't usually trust titles/registration documentation for the Export cars. They are - by their nature - local bureaucracy and subject to all sorts of personal failings. My 1970 Fairlady Z-L was registered here in the UK as a 'Fairlady Turbo' simply because the person at the government agency who issued its documentation chose the wrong model from their list. Wrong, but 'official' and now set in stone.

Hi! I'm Mário and I'm from Portugal...recently I restores my Z...a Portuguese one! Well, I learn a lot reading this topic, and I found some interesting features, like the 432 suspension and many other details. I can confirm about the stabilizer bars sizes and all extras our Portuguese Z's have! It's very interesting because my Z is the lowest vin in Portugal, sold and registered in August 71, but the manufacture month is March. There are 70 Z's sold in this year (71) and all with lowest vins...mine is HLS30U-23644...there are several diferences from the others sold during 72 and in the end by 73. Mine has rear and front spoiler, vertical defrost lines, kobe seiko wheels, blue windows, two interior air buttons, passenger foot rest, different gear box, 1st series center console, plastic engine ventilator, engine bay light, 71 vertical antena radio and many more...above the gloves compartment there are 4 letter, and accordong to a doce, they, the portuguese Z's, where specific for our market...but it's hard to find such information. From 71 to 73 only 139 were sold...these days, less than 45 are running... here are some photos of my Z...It's all std...no modifications...even the engine and compartment parts.

Sorry Kats I just noticed this comment and I apologize for not being clear. As I mentioned before I purchased an after market version of the foot rest a number of years ago thinking my wife would appreciate it. As you can see from the photos it mounts differently than the original. I was particularly interested in your carpet. Appears the solution is to have a carpet mat made. also I am interested in knowing how you reproduced the ribbed rubber cover.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CLIFF... Hope you have a great day and a cool Z driving year ahead!!! Sending love, Jai & Lissa