Everything posted by SteveJ
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battery drain
To @Zed Head's point, you could take the black/blue wire off the ballast resistor, tape it up, and check the voltage again.
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78 280Z rear hatch nylon guide removal
Is this what you're referring to? https://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/34-1152
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battery drain
Then if your technique was good, that might indicate wear within the ignition switch. Did you order the full switch with key or just the module in the back of the switch?
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Fusible Links Smoking
And even when it's bad, it can be replaced by a GM HEI module pretty easily.
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battery drain
The switch contacts should be pretty close to zero. The resistance at the ballast resistor is fine. You don't want the resistance to be too high because that would be a voltage drop. It does appear that you are losing voltage somewhere, depending upon where you measured the 7.2V on the black/blue wire. Was it at the resistor or the ignition switch? Again, look for corrosion at the connectors for where the dash harness plugs into the ignition switch.
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Car will not start
This sounds like a great time to shoot some video when trying to start so we can see what is and is not happening.
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Car will not start
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Car will not start
Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse. This thread may help some.
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Car will not start
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Car will not start
Did you confirm that it is on the compression stroke? Did you reorient the oil pump & distributor, or was it oriented like that when you got the bunny ears on the camshaft on cylinder 1?
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[2021] What Did You Do To/with Your Z Today?
One funny thing happened while I was taking photos was that I was stopped after taking a picture of the Porsche below. The owner wanted me to feel his headlights, and it wasn't even a dirty proposition. As I walked over to his car, I said, "Oh, do you have the concave headlights from Cibie?" It surprised him that I figured it out. I let him know the concave Cibies were valued in the Z car world. It's great when different parts of the car loving universe can intersect.
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[2021] What Did You Do To/with Your Z Today?
Well, I haven't been driving the Z much lately, but the weather looked good for the Worship meet today. Worship was started by people who thought our local Caffeine and Octane show was getting overwhelmed by non-car people. I like going because people don't care that I don't have a show car. They are more than interested in the modifications I have made. It was cold starting out, and it took a while for people to show up. There were only 2 other 1st gen Zs there, plus a 350Z. One of the highlights for me was when a guy in a Cayman drove up with his German Shepherd. As soon as he opened the door for her, she made a bee-line straight for me. She was such a sweetheart. It was a good sized crowd eventually. Just to prove I didn't have the only Z there, here is my friend's Series 1.
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battery drain
I appreciate your willingness to go back and test. Let's look at the coil and work back. Fortunately, it's not that difficult to trace. For stock wiring there should be a white/black wire from the coil to the ballast resistor. There is a black/blue wire attached to the ballast resistor on a different terminal. The black/blue wire goes to a 3 wire/4 position plug and through the engine harness to connector C-5 where it stays black/blue going through the dash harness. The black/blue travels over to the ignition switch where it is energized when the key is in the start position. So what could cause the voltage to drop? The ignition switch could be wearing out. There could be corrosion at one of the three connectors There could be a bad connector at the ballast resistor or failed ballast resistor. So what can you do to test? Measure resistance at the ballast resistor between the white/black wire and black/blue wire. Alternatively, you may want to test the voltage to ground at the black/blue wire at the ballast resistor with the key in START. If it's 12+, then it's probably the ballast resistor. If it's low, you know it's before the ballast resistor. Visually inspect the connectors. If they need to be cleaned, a little vinegar on a q-tip can clean off corrosion at the connectors. Disconnect the connector on the back of the ignition switch and test the resistance with the key in START between the terminals where the black/blue wire and the white/red wires would go.
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battery drain
Check the voltage at the battery while cranking. I'll bet it's pretty low, too. You don't say how old the battery is. Maybe you did earlier, but I'm not going back to see. The plates could be sulfated, they can still have adequate voltage while sitting, but they don't have the surface area for the electron flow needed during cranking.
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Fusible Links Smoking
For the Crane, red goes to coil positive and yellow goes to coil negative. The black/white wire that is hot when the key is in Start or On is on the coil positive. Why is the green wire on coil negative? It would either go to the distributor or to the TIU. Neither one is in service, so it could be pulled off the coil negative. Has the TIU been disconnected? It doesn't work with your (@mayolives) setup anymore.
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Fusible Links Smoking
Here are some suggested steps. Some of these I have already provided. Disconnect C-9 and check resistance on the alternator side of the black fusible link to ground. If the resistance went up, go to #5. If you still have low resistance, disconnect all of the white/red (W/R) wires (including the one to the condensor). Measure resistance at the fusible link again. If the resistance at the link went up, check resistance to ground at your alternator where all of the W/R wires were connected. Otherwise, you likely have a problem in your wiring harness. With C-9 still unplugged, measure resistance from the (W/R) to ground. You can do that at the fuse box. Just select the right side of any of the fuses I circled. If the fuses were in the fuse box with high resistance, remove the fuses and measure again. If the resistance is still high, unplug the ignition relay and measure again. Record your results, and also take photos. As for the wiring at the coil, is that an I91, E92, or E93 coil? I recognize the red, yellow, black wire bundle as probably being from a Crane ignition system. It makes me wonder what distributor is in the car, since the Crane optical trigger was designed to replace the points, not a reluctor.
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Parts Catalog and OEM Gasket Part Numbers
Not those of us who supported the site way back when and bought the CD of the parts catalog. 😉 I also have a paper copy...just in case.
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Parts Catalog and OEM Gasket Part Numbers
I double checked with the parts CD that @Mike used to sell on this site. The text isn't very clear, but it looks like the dates shown on CarPartsManual.com are not correct.
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Parts Catalog and OEM Gasket Part Numbers
I'm not sure what you mean by Carpartsmanual.com not having the actual part numbers. I tried the numbers listed at CourtesyParts.com, and they came back as NLA.
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Putting in a replacement L-28
I dunno. That connector on the yellow wire looks like a deformed female bullet connector to me, but I can't blow up your photo to confirm. The only other yellow wire that travels much in the engine bay is the neutral going from the VR to the alternator. It wouldn't be roaming around the driver's side of the engine bay, though. I would not be surprised if you don't currently have a wire going to the temp sender. Yellow was used for this wire in all of S30 diagrams that I have seen.
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Putting in a replacement L-28
From the wiring diagram: Yellow - Temperature gauge sending unit - Does it have a female bullet connector? White/Black - BCDD Cut Solenoid - Does it have a female bullet connector? I see the same two grounds that you see. However, you're not showing the ends of the wires, so that limits what I can figure out.
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Connector specifications
The connectors were made in Japan. I would be surprised if you found a source in the EU. The factory service manual (FSM) has most of the connectors drawn in the EE section. Some of the connectors, such as for the 74 and later, are essentially not available (headlight connectors, distributor connectors, voltage regulator connectors, and even many of the harness interconnections). If they are available, no one has made a source widely known in this forum.
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battery drain
The "relay" is the voltage regulator. The W/B wire is for the field. It should inject current into the alternator when the voltage is low. A failure to produce an output from the alternator could be a problem within the voltage regulator or the alternator. What makes you think I don't like that grotesque abomination called the Interlock Relay Unit? Have you ever buckled up an inanimate object in the passenger seat because the car would not start otherwise? Seatbelt interlocks came from a push by Ford to make itself look good to the NHTSA about getting people to use their seatbelts more. While Ford had already designed and debugged their system, the NHTSA mandated the implementation of a seatbelt interlock for all cars in the 74 model year. With the relatively short notice most automakers implemented the rules poorly. The NHTSA quickly retired the rule. Here is some reading on the subject: https://www.allpar.com/threads/the-return-of-the-seat-belt-interlock-crazy-rule-or-money-saver.236643/. People found ways to defeat these systems because a faulty interlock would make it where you couldn't drive your car. There is an emergency button under the hood on the passenger fender. There's a picture below. In its early life, the button was red. It's an annoyance to have intact, but it won't affect charging.
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Fusible Links Smoking
Does your meter autoscale? A reading of 1.84 ohms would translate into 7A of current. That won't blow a fusible link, but that's a strong drain. Did you make sure all of the switches were off? ( @Captain Obvious I beat you to the question. 😉 ) By outside front, I'm going to assume that is the black fusible link in the picture Capt posted. That has 3 connections at the alternator: Condensor Battery terminal Sense terminal Make sure all three are unplugged. It also runs to the ignition relay and fuse box. It feeds a bunch of circuits. You can isolate the alternator from all of those circuits by unplugging connector C-9 and taking the resistance measurement again. C-9 is a 6 wire connector in the passenger footwell with the other engine harness to dash harness connectors. By the way, testing an internally regulated alternator that I have handy, I saw 2.2K ohm from the B to E terminals.