Carl Beck

I think the owner of the 240Z got Sandbagged.... Should never have let "NISSAN's" Driver drive the 240Z. Did anyone really expect that a guy sponsored by NISSAN - would let the 370Z come in second to a 40 year old model. They should have had any current SCCA 240Z racer drive the 240Z. Seat time is important, and the Nissan Driver has had lots of it in the 370Z's... FWIW, Carl B.

Hi Brian: I guess that pretty much covers the spectrum. A Green 70 Barn Find {deserves a full restoration}, the Yellow Street Mod {pretty much ready to drive} or the Blue numbers matching fully refreshed 71. I'd grab the Green 70 and just stick it away. Then buy the Yellow Street Mod with the L28 if it sells for a reasonable price - For about $16K you could have the best of both Z worlds. Five or ten years from now - if you did a Show Quality proper Restoration - the Series I Z would be a Classic Car to keep. In the mean time you could drive/auto-cross the Yellow Z. I'd like the Blue 71 a lot more - if the undercarriage had not been undercoated. If it was clean, rust free and original I'd like to see it kept that way. Nonetheless it looks like it could be very nice Z to own and enjoy..The modifications like Euro Bumpers, 260Z seats, somewhat incomplete engine {no air pump, part of an A/C system} Speakers cut in the door panels etc - all lower the value of the car at this point. But that might be a good thing for the Buyer.. decisions decisions.. FWIW, Carl B. FWIW, Carl B.

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bacarl: If you are serious - you'll look for years trying to find a better "Project Car" at anywhere near that price, anywhere East of the Mississippi. Of course that is a "restorable" example - and you would have to be willing to put the time and dollars into it - easly to spend $20K+ along the way just "refreshing" it. Full and proper repaint {stripped down to a bare shell by you} perhaps $6500.00 to get the job done in a couple months. Full suspension rebuild, with the component parts stripped and painted etc. Good Shocks, brakes, all suspension bushings replaced andmaybe new springs for autocross... another $1000.00. Fresh valve job with minor head enhancements at least - and maybe a full rebuild. {scuffed the cylinders and wiped out the cam/rockers as they threw a battery in it and cranked it over - who knows?}. Ah heck have the whole thing rebuilt - $3500.00/$4500.00 depending..{L26 crank and an over-bore maybe}. Then new tires with some "grip" and wider wheels another $800.00 to $1000.00 {with mounting/balanceing and sales tax or shipping charges}. Rebuild the radiator and cooling lines. Add new starter, alt. distributor and rebuilt carbs.. another $1200.00. Drop the fuel tank and clean it out.. New carpet and a set of racing seats.. another grand.. And so it goes... don't start out thinking you can get the car they way you want it - for $10k, nor even $15K.. "refreshed" you'll have $20K and a lot of personal time in it.. Or you could start with something like this one -if the bidding doesn't go to high.. pretty much finished {but you would have to have it checked over before buying}.. EBay Item Number 161008859120 Datsun : Z-Series 2 door coupe in Datsun | eBay Motors FWIW, Carl B.

Yes, the subject can get complex. That is why I qualified it by saying - listed on the window sticker, should have said Monroney Window Sticker - just to rule out Dealer Added "Supplemental Stickers", But to your point - After the fact, when the Monroney Sticker was long lost, an owner had options himself. As you mention he could have had an After-market system like the ARA's put in - or he could have ordered one of the Nissan Supplied A/C Kits for the 280Z's. For that matter the Dealer could have installed the Nissan Kit at the Dealership before selling the car {but in that case it wouldn't have shown up on the Monroney Sticker as an extra cost option} It's been a long time - but as I recall the A/C that was actually installed at the factory had a 5spd. fan switch and the Nissan Supplied A/C Kit {27000-N4225 etc} either Port or Dealer Installed came with a 4spd. fan switch. So you could tell at a later point if the A/C was factory installed or changed in later. Either way the A/C units from Nissan for the 280Z were a big improvement over the earlier after-market units. FWIW, Carl B.

Hi Andrew: Yes, the Arm Rest among several other items are shown in the 1972 Accessories brochure for the 240Z. Most of these items had Part Number that began with 99990. 240Z Accessories FWIW, Carl B.

Hi bacarl: I wish you the best of luck in your search. Lots of advice here on the forum about what to look for ect. Of course it depends on what you want - A car that is ready to drive and enjoy, a Project Car that needs refreshing or restoring, A Classic Z for show or one to Race. The Body Protective Side Moldings were usually Dealer installed prior to the original sale of the Datsun 240Z's. Some owners over the years have deleted them when the car was refinished. It is for the Hazard Warning Lights Switch - the switch was required, by our Safety Standards to be marked for the 1972 Model Year. The Hazard Warning Switch was a different design and Lighted on the 73 240Z's - so no decal on the side of them either. See: Details About 240Z Dashboards Not really. The transmissions were "improved" with the 1972 model year. The shift linkage gave a more positive feel in the newer Type B transmissions that the older Type A trany with the "monkey motion shift linkage. There were other improvements as well - but the old type "A" were pretty much trouble free for 100K miles if not abused. FWIW, Carl B.

Hi Jamul: The response from La Jolla - is a great example of why we should enter our Z's and other Japanese cars of Special Interest in higher end Events like this. Yes, you might be there alone the first couple of years, but as the number of Japanese entries grows - the Organizers of these events take notice and reach out to the community by opening new classes. Past that we have to work with the orginazers - to properly sub-divide the Japanese Class as the number of different models show up. Modern Sedans, Sports Cars, Competition Cars, Micro's vs. Pre WW-II ect. Then way down the road - - shouldn't a Datsun 240Z be in the same class as Porsche 911's, Corvettes, E-Types, and all other Classic/Collectiable Sports Cars of the 70's. So all cars are classed by Type rather than country of origin? Ah.. nothing is ever perfect.. The idea is to support, participate and enjoy the Event. FWIW, Carl B.

I think you are pretty much correct. If "factory option" means a Nissan Part that was not standard equipment on every 280Z produced, yet available on select cars from the factory. In that sense, factory options on the 280Z like 5sd., A/T, A/C or Black Pearl Paint & SAP which were listed as extra cost options on the window stickers. Even if a Nissan supplied part was used in the case of the subject 280Z - it would have been installed either at the Port or Dealership. Unlike the normal factory installed options mentioned above. Several optional parts are shown in the Datsun/Nissan Parts Catalogs, but here in the US, if they weren't installed at the Port, you or the Dealer had to order them from Nissan Parts Dept. and have them installed here. The usual things we see are Nissan Headlight Covers, Optional Springs {aka Euro Spec}, Racing Stripes and Vinyl mats for the rear deck area. Then there were a lot of Nissan supplied parts offered in the various Datsun/Nissan Competition Parts Catalogs as well. FWIW, Carl B.

Polished Stainless Steel is very nice - but not "original". So if "original" matters and the price doesn't go too high - this one looks like it could be a very good deal. I've seen Front bumpers that needed to be re-chromed, but were otherwise straight and free of dents sell for $350.00 or more in the past. It cost about $375.00 to have one re-chromed around here.. I haven't tried to order a New bumper from Nissan lately - it seems the last time I checked they were NLA for the 70-72 cars. FWIW, Carl B.

Since it has been repainted - it won't bring anything close to $23K at this point. At $15K it would be a bargain and $18K it would be a reasonable buy. You would of course have to get under it and check the usual places.. Looks like a very nice 240Z.. FWIW, Carl B.

Great Going Rich!! Good for you!! Actually good for all of us too. Carl B.

Just like Life - some junk there - and some real good items. All depends on your specific needs. Since their "return" policy is pretty good - never hurts to try something. FWIW, Carl B.

I'm fairly sure I have both the Foot Rest and Scuff Plates NOS..but I'd have to dig though a lot of stuff stored away to find them. If you are going for the AMCO Collection - What you really need - is the AMCO Roof Rack.. I have an NOS example and I know where that is. {$375.00 plus shipping}. If I find the other parts I'll let you know.. FWIW, Carl B.

Still Waiting on Pictures...

Watched the entire series - great show... FWIW, Carl B.

Brand New as in New Old Stock? $900.00 USD would have been 1/2 price. Or where they almost like new? $900.00 in that case would still have been below the normal market. As the economy recovers they will most likely go up in price.

Posting the following for my friends at the Automobile Driving Museum If you are in the area this should be fun. Carl B. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = WHAT: "Z EVENT" - Z Car Cruise-In, El Sequndo, CA WHERE: Automobile Driving Museum 610 Laiport St. El Segundo, CA 90245 WHEN: Friday March 29, 2013 From 5:00 PM to 9:00 PM All Z's are welcome at the Cruise In, and we will have special parking for registrants. REGISTER HERE: https://events.r20.constantcontact.com/register/eventReg?llr=raq4tmkab&oeidk=a07e77va7q4a24756b7&oseq= The event is free but people need to register. Yes, food will be available. If you love your Z - then - Join the Automobile Driving Museum, MotoMan TV, Hot Rod Magazine and Car Craft Magazine in welcoming Randy Rodriguez at our March Cruise-In. Randy, a lifelong Z car fan, is the designer of the current Nissan 370 Z. Based in Nissan Design America's studio in San Diego, California, Randy's designs have evolved long past his Z car passion - his sketches have gone on to become the Infiniti Etherea, Nissan Esflow and the Infiniti Emerg-E After the program, Randy will be holding a Q & A session. All Z's are welcome at the Cruise and we will have special parking for registrants.

Hi Steve: They look pretty nice - a few questions: Is the mount attached by just sheet metal screws - or are they nuts/bolts? Do they use the original mounting holes in the Driver Door? Or do you have to drill additional holes? Let us know how much wind noise they add or don't add - windows up and windows down. thanks, Carl B.

In California - $11K is a very strong bid. Given the condition of the paint/body that the seller describes - I don't see $15K. FWIW, Carl B.

Looking at your Picture - If the width of the New and Old U-Joint bodies are the same {without the cups on each end} - - it would seem that you would have to completely smash the rubber seal on the new cap - to get the circle clip groves to match up in the yoke... Maybe I am not understanding what your measuring... FWIW, Carl B.

No - that is not normal. The Fresh Air Vents in the Dash should not have air coming though them, when the selector lever is moved to "HEAT". They should have fresh air coming in only when "VENT" is selected. Fresh air comes in though the cowl - and there is a "flap" or "door" that opens/closes to control the fresh air flow. If you have cold air coming in - something is not allowing that door to close when it should - or the seals on that door are shot, or the cable that controls it may not be adjusted correctly. It may be time to remove the Blower Assy - clean and reseal the air flow control flaps/doors. FWIW, Carl B.

Hi Charlie: You'll have to post some pictures of the car when you get it... Always kind of sad to see an original owner have to let go of his/her 240Z, but it sounds like you picked up a nice one. FWIW, Carl B.

My daughter is home from college for spring break - so we watched it last night. Enjoyed the movie.. fun, light entertainment.. thanks, Carl B.

Hi Jon: Weren't Ring & Pinion sets sold in matched set's, which you didn't get if you ordered the parts individually? I recall running into that problem at one time... FWIW, Carl B.