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Just wondering if anyone has found a fire extinguisher they like, which will actually extinguish a fire, and is easy to mount for 240Z cars? Also, where do most of you mount yours? Have decided it's time to add one after reading about another Z which succumbed to an engine fire. Thanks, Andy

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I just purchased two First Alert Auto Fire Extinguishers found on Amazon: First Alert Auto Fire Extinguisher - Amazon.com

4 1/2 Stars through 37 reviews, compact, and has a bracket to mount to.

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I received them yesterday and they are great build quality. I place it conveniently in a side pocket in the 911 and behind the passenger chair on the Z car.

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I recently bought a First Alert (Model: FESA5) on Amazon and placed under the driver's seat - out of harms way yet easy accessable.

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I have my extinguisher mounted on the forward side of the RR shock tower. Its out of the way for stuff going in and out of the luggage area, yet very easy to reach from the driver's seat.

That's a great idea Jim, out of the way but handy.

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Speaking as a retired firefighter, be very careful with the mounting brackets. Most household brackets are not designed for cars and will become a dangerous missile in an accident. I have a 2 1/2# ABC extinguisher by Kidde that is 13 3/4" long and fits in the storage locker behind the pasenger. It is not that easy to get to, but in a wreck or roll-over it won't come loose and become a dangerous flying object either. And guys, take your dry powder extinguishers out once a year and shake them up to prevent the powder from caking and being a big disappointment when you squeeze the trigger. Also check the pressure gauge at the same time. It's easy to ignore the extinguisher until you need it. CO2 extinguishers would be less messy, but are hard to find in a small enough package, and they displace O2 so setting them off inside the car could be problematical.

Cheers, Mike

Edited by Pop's Z

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Thanks to all who responded to my inquiry! I hadn't consider the flying projectile aspect - thank you Mike. Drive safely, may we never need to use an extinguisher, all the best, Andy

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There are NHRA and I believe SCCA approved Fire Extinguisher Mounts for use in the car. Some have two straps to hold the extinguisher in place. You can usually get them from most Racing Supply businesses. It is a good idea... they can run $15.00 to $60.00..

In a car you want an easy method to "arm" the extinguisher - once you get it out of the bracket - you will want a large Pull Ring, that you can grab and pull OUT - for example to enable the trigger to be depressed.

Secondly - most automotive fires in accidents are Fuel related. Electrical fires usually burn the wiring, and may ignite a paint fire, but it is the gasoline that is of most immediate concern.... So a good "B&C" rated extinguisher will handle most auto fires, and one filled with Baking Soda will do the least harm to other automotive components. With some ABC types - the damage done by the chemicals in the extinguisher can be worse than the damage done to the car by the fire.

There are lots of really cheaply made "consumer" Fire Extinguishers on the market. Stick with the older or better known brands - and be willing to pay a few extra dollars for Quality. A good 2.5 lb extinguisher will cost around $40.00 to $60.00 {chrome maybe $70.00 to $90.00}

Look for U.S. Coast Guard approval - these extinguishers are tested by UL for the Coast Guard to meet certain standards.. It is just one "check" for quality products.

Third - find a local company that sells Fire Suppression Supplies - to your local Fire Departments. Then go pick an extinguisher up. Shipping some higher pressure extinguishers can get expensive. Secondly - you may need to have a good extinguisher - refilled, and in that case a local supplier is easier to deal with.

FWIW,

Carl B.

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That little thing doesn't look all that bad, though I prefer fire extinguishers which don't use any powder at all. FireAide has one, but it is small- the kind you'd use for a cooking fire. Tundra is another, but isn't UL approved (which some event promoters require.)

Most automotive fire extinguishers currently available use a powder agent, which I really don't care to use in or on a car or inside the car with passengers onboard.

Also, if a fire extinguisher is required, such as for a car show, some just recommend a working unit, others specify a working 5 B:C unit. This one looks fine, but in an emergency "just enough" usually isn't, so a 5A, 10 B:C is better.

The best fire extinguisher I've seen for automotive use is the new Halotron one. It's a liquid, biodegradable, UL approved and all the rest, and it won't hurt your vehicle's interior. The only problem with Halotron fire extinguisher is that it's expensive; a 2LB one costs over $100. In that case, you'd need to ask yourself what matters; just putting out a fire or putting out a fire and saving all you can of your vehicle.

I agree with what Pop'sZ says about the mounts you get. They are fine for household use,where you store it in a cabinet or closet, but in a car, it gets bumped and vibrated a lot, so you want something that you know will avoid the headache of replacement or some embarrassment if it falls off at the wrong time. Look at what aircraft use for a fire extinguisher mount, and you will see one that does stay in place. Most quality fire extinguisher have a mount available, so you can buy one made just for your unit.

Also, I'd rather not put anything under the driver's seat. if you can slide it in, it could certainly slide right out and under your feet or behind the control pedals.

Edited by TomoHawk

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I bought 2 kilo extinguisher, it also came with bracket but im holding mine behind passenger seat, close to hand and not too visible. It's a tad too big to go completely vertical and hide behind seat, but i dont mind.

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"Also, I'd rather not put anything under the driver's seat. if you can slide it in, it could certainly slide right out and under your feet or behind the control pedals. "

Your point is well taken. BUT, such an event is physically impossible in a S30 (1/71) due to the height of the front seat mount cross member and the bilateral seat rails....The extinguisher is nicely 'boxed in' and the only actual way to remove it by first moving the seat forward.

Cheers,

George

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I can relate to what George says, because the few things I keep under my seat (an umbrella with the strap hooked on the adjust lever) stays there, but some stuff on the passenger side has slipped out, on a certain bumpy road. Maybe you could add additional safety with a small velcro strap.

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I've always kept one behind the driver's seat, too big to go under & I know it is always there if needed. It uses Halon as the extinguishing agent.

Bonzi Lon

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That's right. Any fire extinguisher that's bigger than a 1 LB. unit ( a 5AB) will probably not fit under the seat, and you should have a minimum of a 2LB (or 10 AB) unit.

If anyone can post a picture of how they store or mount the fire extinguisher in the vehicle, such as mounted to the shock tower, that would be appreciated and meaningful.

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I think I will make a mount that attaches to the studs of the right rear seatbelt retractor. It might be a bit floppy, but the fire extinguisher will at least be out from underfoot or crowded behind the seat (where I keep the 2Gal water jug.)

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A gallon (milk jug) of water combined with a rug or blanket of some sort you can soak and throw on a fire provides a very inexpensive backup to a pint-sized fire estinguisher. I carry water in all my vehicles... call me a Boy Scout....

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If it's hot weather, I'll freeze my gallon overnight. That way I have an 'ice cold drink' available all day long. :)

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I will also mount my fire extinguisher behind the passenger seat. I'm going to make a retainer with a long bar of aluminum that has notches in the back for some velcro straps. I ould also mount it to the deck along the luggage bar?

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On 6/6/2013 at 7:39 PM, Wade Nelson said:

water combined with a rug or blanket of some sort you can soak and throw on a fire provides a very inexpensive backup to a pint-sized fire extinguisher.

That might work for a backyard fire ring, but in an automobile, you only have a few seconds, to grab your fire extinguisher and get out, open the bonnet and start spraying the  fire. 

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I have been following the development of the foam fire extinguishers and there has been some improvements.  The AFFF (Aqueous Film-Forming Foam) is getting approval from Underwriter's Laboratory, the U.S. Forestry Service, and many electronics groups, (as an alternative for Halon.)  More of the foam formulations are biodegradable, less toxic to the environment, and just better overall, when compared to dry-power fire extinguishers.  Only the Coast Guard has refused to accept it.

The only drawback I was able to find was that when compared to certain specific types of fire extinguisher media, in specific circumstances, you needed a larger volume of AFFF to do the same job as the dry powder fire extinguishers.

So, in general, the AFFF fire extinguishers are excellent for protection in a passenger vehicle.

I think it is rime to get the racing organizations to recognize the AAFFF fire extinguishers and change the rules regarding them.

Having said all this, has anyone bought one recently?  They seem to be available only from overseas.

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On 5/5/2018 at 5:00 AM, TomoHawk said:

That might work for a backyard fire ring, but in an automobile, you only have a few seconds, to grab your fire extinguisher and get out, open the bonnet and start spraying the  fire. 

Be very very careful opening the bonnet with an engine fire. Heat rises and the bonnet traps most of it. If you suddenly pull it open, the heat will excape and draw in a huge amount of fresh air from underneath. You will be engulfed in flames. No fire extinguisher is going to help you in that situation, you can forget the car too.

I have a fire extinguisher, but it's there to save my life not the car.

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A fire extinguisher is the only tool or item I own that has just one purpose.

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