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Something for the carb guys. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/mikuni-44phh-carburetors-and-intake/ . .

Hello everyone, I would like to show a data which I got from the factory. I hope this will help someone's knowlege and questions clear. Unfortunatly it does not mention about HLS and HS seperatetly, it says only"E" for export model means HLS and HS. Also "D" for domestic model(JAPANESE)S30,PS30... Here they are, 1969 May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec "D" 1 1 2 6 9 48 214 688 "E" 1 0 2 1 2 52 388 97 Some notes: On 10th Oct 1969, 2 silver 240z(HLS) arrived at NMC gardena california,for 3 months /16000miles road test. Actualy they were in each big wooden boxes!!They are preproduction #14 and #15.This means they are 14th and 15th build in the factory, they are not HLS30-00014 or 15. I got these,so far.Factory said there is no person who knows much more details of production numbers currently. I guess they are HLS30-00004 and 00005. Reasons are, #1 The factory said they made 3 prototypes for testing assembly line and seeing how workers build.They were not given serial numbers and they are the ones in May and Jun which you can see above.They called "KOJYOU SHISAKU"If I can transrate directly,"factory prototype" Alan,you can help me please follow up! So,HLS30-00001 and 00002 should be the ones produced in Jul. They are called "SEISAN SHISAKU" transrate directly "production prototype"? They are exactly same as 240Z,I mean everything(whole thing)same as 240Z which were sold to the public. You can count 11 240Zs in Jul through Aug.Accordingly #14 and #15 must be produced in Sep,right? One more interesting view I was told, You can see the numbers in Dec is much less than in Nov. The factory said that happend due to found ploblems in test driving,they slow down nearly stopped production. Major ploblems are big road noise,viblation from rear axle,and steering kicking back.Test crew reported that from U.S.A. and the factory in Japan tried to solve these ploblems. Mid to late Dec,the factory managed to clear ploblems anyway(not perfect),they shipped corrected 240Z(with some development parts,not sure how many 240Zs) by air. Then the factory went to full swing production,very busy. I will add some sotry soon. Best regards, kats

I was looking into installing a hitch to tow a support trailer for Auto-X and checked with U-haul and got a strange response that I cannot act upon since I live in Ohio.

Well, I'm a month late getting her into the garage but will still have lots of time to get the work done and have her out on the road by the spring. Now that I have some proper light I can get a better idea of what it's going to need. Only 2 small dents and one 3" crease to deal with, looks like rear wheel arches have been replaced and the filler has eliminated the main body line, have to dig in there and repair that. Here is what can happen when you a get a quicky paint job. Shrinkage. Took lots of pics of the original black paint that was used at the front grill and around the doors, I've never noticed that the black paint extended up into the quarter windows before. Firewall insulation in near perfect cond. A Blaupunkt BFX9DV Seattle Cassette deck, that is definitely going back in.

Wow. Right in my backyard. Jeff, is your 260 an early or late?

It all seems to work at least on the stand, it just I am concerned about the need for resistors in the injector + lead. A part diagram showed them. I contacted the seller, he is sending me a different part that should be an exact ecu for a turbo L28et, will give that a try when it gets here and do an update. No issue with RPM's etc that is fin on the test stand.

I found two of them - I think. They are 30 mm long, but the threaded portion is more like 23 mm instead of 21, by my measurement. The prior owner of the car had done some rear suspension work and apparently, while going through that work, was replacing most of the factory hardware with 8.8 grade stuff. Luckily nearly all the stock hardware was kept with the car. But, two of the bolts I do not have. And interestingly, my transmission crossmember bolts are similar, but have 9's on them. So they aren't right either, I guess. For now, I'll use two of the grade 8.8 bolts (pictured). While I'd like to get 4 of these (two for the crossmember and two for the transmission), it isn't the end of the world if I can't track some down. I also ran into this unexpected problem tonight - the "240z" OEM brake shoes I bought are for some other Nissan model. Note the location of the "eyelet" holes in the metal stamping for the two inner (OEM) vs the two outer (black) shoes (aftermarket) that were installed in the car when I got it. Whatever B701 FE is, it isn't unique to the correct OEM versions of the shoes for a 240z. Brake shoes are pretty cheap parts for this car, comparatively. I'd like to have some OEM ones. So, I found some online in Austria. I'll see if those are legit. Otherwise, I guess I will install the ones that were installed by the previous owner. A few pics of the brake cylinder I also installed tonight:

Honestly, I have no idea!!

Have sent you a PM to buy it. Roo

Yeah.. why not.. i was only looking for the name of those rubber thingy's you put in the nice round hole(s).. But first i would clean the complete floor as there are often more holes than you think.. My first 280zx had had every 2 years a new layer of undercoating.. when i had it 10 years it was about 20 years old and the technician that checked my car for MOT (Dutch=APK) said to me he could poke right through the bottom at 17 places or so... It had rotted from the inside.. I never needed to put some undercoating on it.. it had a layer of half a cm.. personally i hate undercoating.. grease is best i think, it wipes off and you see more through it when something is wrong. My latest 280zx has some kind of "silolak"on it.. it's not done by me.. but it's increadable stuff. I ones took of a little bit on the brakeline and after 40 years the original greenish paint nissan used on them came from under it.. in unbelievable good condition. I wish i knew what the pre owner used. Silolak=silolacquer.. "Silolak" in english can be something like: paint for silo's? My translator program just says silo for a silo.. it's a big round standing up tank for pig or chickenfood.. a silo.. long ago they were made of steel and they rusted like hell as some foods can attack the steel.. so they had made a paint called silolacquer

Hello everyone, I am so glad that many people enjoy these rare photos.But not so great quality makes some one irritate,does not it? Alan,do not worry!!I always enjoy your posting here so please do not say apologize for it!! We all are loving Z,so we all are here,right? I know when you are talking about RHD or LHD,you become a bit obstinate(is this word suitable?)man.But is it bad thing?I do not think so.We know it is welcomed to post any kind of opinion of the Z that is related and oriented from one's true heart.(except for comercial).I can see Carl also welcomes your opinion and that argument sometimes gives us good ideas for someone.This is great,is not it ? Alan, I think we are always surprsing your magnificent knowlege about the Z and your HOT heart for the Z.And I agree with your many opinions posted here so far.But some opinions are different from mine.I can not list them up all because there are so many points. I can say,your effort for telling about RHD and Japanese market Z certainly inspires for a lot of people in the U.S.A. I remenber when I met you first at FUJI speedway in 2001.I was surprised you talked perfect japanese and same time I was surprised you said you could not write nor read!!This is strange for me.Do you all know japanese people must study english from elementaly school but most of us can not speak.This is a big ploblem in Japan anyway. During driving back home from FUJI speedway,we talk a lot.And find we are very very similler eachother but aiming completely oposite situation about Z. I love Z so much,Alan you love Z so much,I want Japanese people to know what DATSUN 240Z(U.S. model) look like and how 240Z have been loved in the U.S.Then you want people in the U.S. to know what RHD Z look like and how RHD Z have been loved in Japan (and U.K and Australia).I always think why Japanese people do not look DATSUN 240Z,and always they are talking about Fairlady Z.Alan always think why people in the U.S. do not look RHD Z,and always talking about DATSUN 240Z.I want put some different views to Japanese people,Alan want to put some different view to people in the U.S....... We immediatly respected our different situation eachother and still this have been continued.What a interesting story,I think so by myself. Today I post here is a photo of prototype Z's interior.This Z is the one which I posted before"a lady with a Z". Please note glossy steering column cover,a fog lamp switch above a hazard switch.How many people are able to find the steering wheel is different from DATSUN 240Z?This steering wheel is just same as Japanese(not sure for all RHD,tell us Alan!)Z.The difference is,a horn pad's position.This photo shows the horn pad is positiond just same surface of steering wheel.You already know DATSUN 240Z's horn pad is far inside from a steering wheel.The steering wheel's spokes have different angle between DATSUN 240Z and Fairlady Z. And the hand is Mr.Matsuo's.He said light/wiper combo switch was a very special featuring of Z.And he said no car had equipped like this comfortable switch before the Z.Mr.Matsuo had been planing this switch for long time and he had tryed to persuade parts manufacure to make this switch.But first they did not say yes, even they said to Mr.Matsuo"Are you serious?you are crazy"because it was so difficult to combine light and wiper switch in a same piece.Mr.Matsuo kept negotiating,and finaly the manufacture managed to make this switch. One more thing,you can see the watch on Mr.Matsuo's left hand. This is a special order made of Citizen(Japanese manufacture). They made only one for Mr.Matsuo and he was inspired by this watch to design Z's watch which is equipped only for Fairlady Z, a watch which got stop watch mechanism.He also did his best to persuade manufacture to make the special watch for Z. See you soon, kats

that is all for 1969

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Hello, I have got a permition from Mr.Matsuo to post some photos. Mr.Matsuo does not have a computer in his office,so he asked me please say hello to everyone seeing this web. I am sorry for bad quality of this photo because I can only use home video camera. First,a lady with a Z prototype which is made of plastic.Please note different door jam mechanism and C-piller emblem.They(design team)wanted to emphasise this car is very gentle for ladies getting into/out of the cockpit even she is wearing beautiful skirt.Mr.Matsuo told she is also a member of design team. I said this photo was taken in Apr 1968 in this thread,but this is not correct. Mr. Matsuo said,"I do not remember exactly but this photo was taken in summer 1969.This car called DESIGN PROTOTYPE not only for developing styling but also for displaying and explaining to excutives of NISSAN to obtain their approval .The design team made these models from early 1968.Already those models had got complete interior parts.This could be a 4th or 5th model.Mr.Matsuo said this car might build in early 1969.

Hello everyone, I am very exciting about this thread.Thank you Alan and Carl,you are making this topics very very hot. I must reply for many things,let me tell all of you anything in my mind,maybe out of sequence or does not make sence because my poor english,please be patiant. I got the data of S30's production number from NISSAN SHATAI.This company has been making cars for NISSAN for long time.Not every cars of NISSAN but the Z,they made. The word"SHATAI" can be divided into"SHA"means car and "TAI"means body.So you can imagine what this company produce.Alan and Carl know about this company very well, do not you? Why I got this is I am preparing for writing an article about S30 for japanese magazine,will be issued next year.I am not a jornalist, my job is completely defferent.I am just a man loves S30 so much.I have been wanted correct data of production numbers especialy S30's early days.So I thought again and again. Carl,I knew there are no nice(interesting) official data from NISSAN.Because I have been reading again and again about your information on your web.And I still appreciate with your kindness about answerd for my question which I made before. First I visited an office of Mr.YOSHIHIKO MATSUO needless to say he is known as S30's chief designer.His office is in TOKYO not a big room but a very nice place to visit.I have been keeping in touch with him since 2000 LAS VEGAS Z car convention. I was very very surprised he stocks so many photos of S30's styling study cray models and drawings.What a lucky man I am,I did not count them but roughly there are over 100 positive photo films in his room. He said,"I have been loving cameras,ofcource during developing S30's styling as well.I took so many photos because I was so confident about this car would be a mile stone not only for NISSAN but also for the world.At that time I did not want to feel sad when the time comes then hey,what a stupid if there woud be no photos proving my hard work." I am sorry for deviating from the topic,but I want to say and make sure to everyone in the world that Mr.MATSUO is a real chief designer of S30. We should never mention about Mr.Albreht Georlz.He did nothing about S30's styling.Yes he taught how to develop car styling for NISSAN's young car designer,but he did not teach nor suggest nor instruct "how to make S30".These are proved by many many photos in Mr.MATSUO's room.In these photos,there are some designers I can see.Always Mr.MATSUO and other crew there,but never seen Mr.Albreht Georlz,it is clear that he did not touch any cray models nor even draw any styling pictures.Mr.MATSUO said Mr.Albreht Georlz had left well before when Mr.MATSUO and other crew had started S30's styling study and there were no message(instruction) from Mr.Albreht Georlz about S30's styling. I want to put some prototype photos which I got from him,but I have to get a permition from him first.They are very very interesting and lots of ones never seen in some books before.I must say those positive films which Mr.MATSUO holds are color,not monoclo which we can see in some books.You will see how the S30 was developed and what things were defferent from actual sold model.The highlight is a prototype S30 which is silver,exterior panels are made of plastic, no engine and drive train but it got completely interior parts.As I see it,everything has already fixed(I mean body panel's shape and interior parts)except engine and drivetrain and exterior badges. Mr.MATSUO said this was built in april 1968 this is very important because most of parts were already manufacured such as seat belts,seat trims,dash,shift knob and so on.Even I can see hub caps they got "D" on its center.At that time the name of car was not fixed yet but hub caps was decided already,this is interesting.But you know,the car seen on ROAD and TRACK dated Jan 1970 issued did not got "D" on hub caps.There must be another story.That silver prototype is right hand drive, only got C-piller emblem but defferent design.DATSUN logo on the steering hone pad,there are two switches for parking and fog lamps.You will see 4 very small extra tyres under floor pans for moving this prototype. Bytheway,Mr.MATSUO told me steering wheel is made of wood and plastic.I saw this topic on the web before,"real wood or plastic?"He said this technology was a very special of another japanese company,they use real wood over the metal core and pooring lickid plastic then pressed with very strong forece.So the steering wheel is made of real wood,but same time made of plastic. Let me resume own navigation,I am telling about production numbers for 1969.Mr.MATSUO told me if I wanted to know about it,you could ask NISSAN SHATAI.I made an appointment early this month then I met Mr.HITOSHI UEMURA and EIJI OSAWA at NISSAN SHATAI office in KANAGAWA prefecture, They are the crew who tested two silver 240Z in the U.S. and CANADA.They gave me a data of production numbers of S30 AND, they showed me a 30 minutes long video of test driving over there in OCT through DEC 1969.Actualy Mr.OSAWA was taking a 8mm video camera it was his duty also he took photos during operation.They also showed me so many photos almost same scene on the video.Alan put some photos here,they are exactly the ones which Mr.OSAWA took.Those photos and videos are very beautiful color films.I was so much impressed about them.Just so beautiful.The video did not got voice,I guess in 1969 standard? The video starts from a map of U.S. then titled "test driving 270 in north american".You may know 270 is a code number for the S30 in the factory,we still can see this number on the back of exterior badge.I did not make confirm about this to anybody,I will ask Mr.MATSUO or someone soon.Please stay tune. And mentioned about crew members,then listed two 240Z...... "SEISAN SHISAKU #14 HL270 U" and "SEISAN SHISAKU #15 HL270 UA". I told about SEISAN SHISAKU is production prototype.This #14 and #15 does not mean HLS30 00014 nor 00015.Carl,you are right, I was mistaking about counting.There are 11 S30s in JUL through AUG 1969.Not 11 240Zs.According to the data,I think SEISAN SHISAKU #14 and #"15 must be HLS30-00004 and 00005 produced in SEP 1969. Now I am staying an hotel for my job,tomorrow I will be at home, I can put a photo of actual data seat.This is can be seen because I already got permition from them. Continue about the video,then I saw the big track carrying two wood compartments,a lift loader put them land on the ground,5 or 6 people get togetherd and breaking box,I saw Mr. UEMURA and Mr.OSAWA and Mr.KATAYAMA!! he must be 60 years old at that time. While they were breaking box,the new and very clean,beautiful silver 240Z come out!!This is the most exciting moment while I was watching the VIDIO. Two silver 240Zs and one red 510 were running from L.A. to Bakersfield first(I feel some destiny because I was living there in 1994 through 1996).There are good up slope between L.A. for testing,NISSAN's test crew always thought the car which they made must can climb this up hill easily.It is a kind of goal for them long time ago.They tested in the U.S. before the Z.Then they went to death valley for Hight temp.operation.Then they went to newolrinse,back to L.A. then sanfrancisco then into CANADA.They showed me a hand drawing of 240Z's tracking route on the map,I will put this also tomorrow. That is all for today,I have to sleep. Good night, kats

Hi Kats, Well done! Its great to see new information about those early days of pre-production, and I for one certainly appreciate your efforts and the fact that you are sharing this new data. I agree with your translations of "Kojyo Shisaku" and "Seisan Shisaku". In the business that I am involved with, we use virtually the same terms in English and Japanese. We usually translate "Kojyo" as "Factory" and "Seisan" as "Production" in my business, so I would think that you could possibly translate "Kojyo Shisaku" as "Pre-Production Prototype" and "Seisan Shisaku" as "Production Prototype". Perfect translation between English and Japanese is not always possible! At the very least, these figures show that the LHD cars were not produced "first", and that there were indeed RHD cars being pre-productionised at the same time. In fact, up to November 1969 more RHD prototypes had been made than LHD prototypes. That's nice to see, as it might help to get the message across with regard to the LHD cars NOT being the "First" as is sometimes claimed. I had read in some Japanese magazine articles that the test crews in North America had come across problems that caused a hold-up in production. I had also heard that Domestic market cars had not been held up in the same way, and that the 'problems' were mainly caused by the crank vibrations on the L24 engines. Of course, the S30 and PS30 would not have suffered these, so maybe that influenced the decision to press on with Domestic production while Export production was held up? The driveshaft vibration problem was finally fixed much later with the repositioning of the diff. - so I wonder if this was too big a job to redesign in late November and December and they had to leave it until much later? Interesting. Great data, Kats. This should give us good material to discuss for some time to come! Here are some pics. of the North American test crews at work, which may be of interest to some: Alan T.

Hi,sorry for my poor writing. I say again, 1969 [May D 1, E 1] [ Jun D 1, E 0] [Jul D 2, E 2] [Aug D 6, E 1] [sep D 9, E 2] [Oct D 48, E 52] [Nov D 214, E 388] [Dec D 688, E 97] D is domestic,E is export model. And I forgot to mention one thing,why only export model's production number was descent in Dec,that is a difference of situation 240Z was drivien.At that time,in Japan there were so few people could drive sports car like 240Z.And they did not usualy drive long distance like americans do.So the factory decided to neglect those ploblems for domestic market models.They continued production for S30 and PS30(SB). kats