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As an owner of a 1970 240Z with many original BRE parts fitted to it back in period by the original owner, I wondered how many other 240Z are out there so equipped. I found parts were sold by both BRE and later Interpart from 1972, covering every aspect of the 240Z from body to suspension and the engine as well. Seems everything from improved road performance to all out racer were catered for. There was a 1971 240Z on BAT recently that had lots of the original upgrades: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-datsun-240z-177/

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3 hours ago, SpeedRoo said:

As an owner of a 1970 240Z with many original BRE parts fitted to it back in period by the original owner, I wondered how many other 240Z are out there so equipped. I found parts were sold by both BRE and later Interpart from 1972, covering every aspect of the 240Z from body to suspension and the engine as well. Seems everything from improved road performance to all out racer were catered for. There was a 1971 240Z on BAT recently that had lots of the original upgrades: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-datsun-240z-177/

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I still have the BRE "Spook" front spoiler that I put on my '71 Z in 1972.  It's no longer installed, but served well in holding down the front end at speed for many decades.  It also worked fairly well as a an unintentional snowplow when I lived in Kansas.

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Sure wish I could find a Interpart  rear window louvers set like I had on my '73. Install required no drilling, top had hinges and the bottom had little latches and there was a kickstand for the louvers so you could wash the window.

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1 hour ago, jfa.series1 said:

The dealer had already installed the BRE 1st generation "Spook" and rear spoiler on my car when I found it on the showroom floor.  Years later the Spook was ripped off by some high water but I retrieved it and later gave it a full restoration.

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Nice job of fixing your spoiler, Jim.  Mine broke when I hit a snow drift and split from side to side.  I was an Air Force aircraft maintenance officer at the time and took it to the shop where we fixed the fiberglass nose radomes on C-130s.  The guys got it back to looking like new and painted it with flat black aircraft radome paint that it still wears almost 50 years later. 

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Has anyone here heard of Ger - Brock & Co. out of Portland OR?

Just wondering if there was any connection in the Brock name.  Geraghty - Brock?

 

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12 minutes ago, Terrapin Z said:

Has anyone here heard of Ger - Brock & Co. out of Portland OR?

Just wondering if there was any connection in the Brock name.  Geraghty - Brock?

I'm thinking probably not. There is still a Ger Brock automotive in Portland. https://gerbrock.com/ They talk about starting out at the address on the cover of that catalog you posted.

They don't mention Peter in their history.

 

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In a later catalog they list BRE cams as well as G/B cams. Maybe just a local parts supplier. With a coincidental name then. 

One catalog came with my car from a town near Portland, The later catalog came in a swap meet purchase. 

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I think Ger Brock were one of many shops that raced and prepared Z cars back in the day. I don't think they were associated with Peter Brock of BRE but seem to have their products in their catalog. If they were catering for the 280Z they were probably in business after Peter had left BRE/Interpart and gone hang gliding.

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19 hours ago, jfa.series1 said:

The dealer had already installed the BRE 1st generation "Spook" and rear spoiler on my car when I found it on the showroom floor.  Years later the Spook was ripped off by some high water but I retrieved it and later gave it a full restoration.

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@jfa.series1 Never realised the 1st gen Spook was a different shape to the 2nd gen version. 

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1 hour ago, SpeedRoo said:

@jfa.series1 Never realised the 1st gen Spook was a different shape to the 2nd gen version. 

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Go to the BRE site and check out the pics from the 1970 season, you'll find the original style - used only that year. Carl Beck has speculated that mine may be the last one surviving. I reached out to Randy Jaffe while he was building the tribute car and asked if I was at risk of a midnight raid to confiscate my gen-1. He forwarded my pic to Peter Brock who came back with a comment that yes - this was the original, designed to "cool the brakes" per SCCA regs. Everyone else began to copy it and the rules changed so he modified the design to be more efficient.

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4 hours ago, jfa.series1 said:

Go to the BRE site and check out the pics from the 1970 season, you'll find the original style - used only that year. Carl Beck has speculated that mine may be the last one surviving. I reached out to Randy Jaffe while he was building the tribute car and asked if I was at risk of a midnight raid to confiscate my gen-1. He forwarded my pic to Peter Brock who came back with a comment that yes - this was the original, designed to "cool the brakes" per SCCA regs. Everyone else began to copy it and the rules changed so he modified the design to be more efficient.

@jfa.series1  Thanks for the link, certainly very different on the early race car. I think I prefer the later more efficient kind, looks more integrated into the front bodywork. Interesting that the selling dealer fitted them to your car before sale.

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On 9/2/2022 at 6:47 PM, SteveJ said:

I'm thinking probably not. There is still a Ger Brock automotive in Portland. https://gerbrock.com/ They talk about starting out at the address on the cover of that catalog you posted.

They don't mention Peter in their history.

 

Peter and Gail moved to Oregon though. They’re in Henderson NV currently but I remember a few years back they talked about living in Oregon.

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12 hours ago, SpeedRoo said:

@jfa.series1  Thanks for the link, certainly very different on the early race car. I think I prefer the later more efficient kind, looks more integrated into the front bodywork. Interesting that the selling dealer fitted them to your car before sale.

My dealer was Jack Crew Trophy Datsun of Dallas. He made the decision to pull the car from delivery, pack it with options, and stick it on the showroom floor (sound familiar???). In addtion to the Spook and spoiler, it had front and rear bumper overriders, A/C, tape stripe, console arm rest, and an 8-track unit with cheesy speakers stuck to the rear deck. Topping it all was a set of 10" wide alloys with race rubber mounted. I knew the tires were not street legal so I made a deal to put the stock wheels and tires back on the car and swap out the 8-track for a Datsun AM/FM head. With the big wheels and tires gone, the price became workable with my trade-in and the car became mine.

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16 minutes ago, Jeff Berk said:

I wonder how many trailer hitches Brock sold (page 19)?

Right!?! "Thank you Mr. Customer. After purchasing all that performance stuff wouldn't you like a trailer hitch too?"

Imagine a 3000 pound car with a maxed out 2000 pound load on a trailer. 

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1 hour ago, jfa.series1 said:

My dealer was Jack Crew Trophy Datsun of Dallas. He made the decision to pull the car from delivery, pack it with options, and stick it on the showroom floor (sound familiar???). In addtion to the Spook and spoiler, it had front and rear bumper overriders, A/C, tape stripe, console arm rest, and an 8-track unit with cheesy speakers stuck to the rear deck. Topping it all was a set of 10" wide alloys with race rubber mounted. I knew the tires were not street legal so I made a deal to put the stock wheels and tires back on the car and swap out the 8-track for a Datsun AM/FM head. With the big wheels and tires gone, the price became workable with my trade-in and the car became mine.

Any pictures of it when showroom new @jfa.series1

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2 hours ago, Jeff Berk said:

I wonder how many trailer hitches Brock sold (page 19)?

More than you’d guess.  Back in the days of the Yokohama A001R , or other.  Original DOT approved race rubber street tires, lots of guys. Built. Tire trailers to get the tires to the track. Those original DOT race tires would last maybe 5K on the street. 

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Had some spare time so went through and cataloged all the bits the first owner purchased from BRE. Lots of receipts/fitting instructions/BRE stickers in the stash of stuff that came with my car. I'm sure there's some other bits I haven't discovered yet! The 8/1970 build was sold new in Roseburg, Oregon and first registered October 1970, still has the original blue Oregon license plates. 

BRE Updates
2nd gen Front Spook
Rear spoiler
Interpart Mulholland front ARB
Interpart Mulholland rear ARB
Interpart Mulholland Springs
Interpart Mulholland Shocks
ARE Libre 14" x 5.5" Alloy wheels
BRE Dellorto 40mmDHLA carbs/linkage and manifold
BRE Exhaust header
G Machine Compression Rod bearing
G Machine front & rear adjustable camber bushings
Competition steering coupler
Stewart Warner oil pressure gauge

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