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Well, I was there. I was racing in the SCCA at the time and both Bob and Pete were racing way before the introduction of the S30. Here's what Peter Brock was doing https://bre2.net/the-racing/hino/Bob Sharp was racing his Fairlady 1600 and 2000 roadsters throughout the late 60s. The Datsun USA competition department was established (bare with me, I have to look up the year. I have copies of the original Bulletins) so Nissan was not " setting up a new race program in a foreign market ". Further, the SCCA didn't have a class recognition for the PS30 or the PS30SB because it wasn't imported and sold in the USA. And the crankshaft vibration problem; do you wonder how little is heard of Bob Sharp's problems with the crankshaft? What does Bob's engine builder have to say? I might suggest that you take Peter Brock's presentation with a grain of salt. If you know Pete... My point wants to be that the "armchair" guys have spent a lot of time, invested a lot of money (a big, fat lot), spent years discussing issues (how long have we been corresponding, Alan a decade?), and compiling libraries to have a pretty good understanding of what seems to be what. Laddie, when I started in this forum thing, we were discussing Milbrecht Goertz! In all probability, this forum is the definitive book on the S30. There have been all sorts of topics discussed ad-nauseum within this library. Oh! If you want answers from Bob Sharp or Peter Brock, why don't YOU ask them? Tell us what you hear. Thanks for the pictures, Blue, Mr. Hoover.

To add to the discussion and flash some "eye candy" I think any kind of poster/banner, whether factory or aftermarket, is a nice addition to a garage wall. I have everything from Studebaker dealership showroom banners to factory Porsche racing posters. I even have the full size highway billboard sheets for a late '60s Fiat, but no walls big enough for it.. I'm amazed what dealerships will give away if you ask nicely. As part of the sale deal, I picked up a large dealership display for the '83 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe I once bought. The local Infiniti service department manager gave me a large G37 convertible wall display after about five years of asking every time I went in for service. Although not factory, the banner below will eventually hang in the garage. It's 7' X 2' and has grommets for hanging or nailing. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to all! Dennis

The salesman kept telling me this was not the tractor I was looking for....

That was the case, but Uemura san, Ozawa san and the other members of the 'Kaku U' team from Nissan Shatai had no direct responsibility for internal engine issues which were domain of Nissan Kohki. The 'Kaku U' team could report their experiences to Nissan Kohki, but Nissan Kohki were undertaking their own testing in Japan and were already fully aware of the problem. I've said it before and I'll say it again: There's too much emphasis on the north American side of the story here, and that's why everybody is ready to believe the BRE-narrated story of 'discovering a problem' and prescribing the cure. Meanwhile Nissan Kohki - having designed the crankshaft with six counterweights to save money on a de-contented, cost-sensitive product - were fully aware of the problem and were arguing with the white shirts about the costs and implications (not least homologation) of going to eight counterweights. It's almost like people are ready to believe that Nissan was some tin pot company which didn't know what it was doing...

And they all moved away from me on the bench there....

NVZEE, this forum is a drama in its own way and always has been; at least as long as I have been here. It's still the best game in town and after all the arguments, put-downs, sarcasm and revolts, this forum has the best information about the story of the 'Z'. In my opinion, of course! No one withholds information. Not on purpose, I would say. The information is all here in the library anyway. Where do you think Hoover gets all his pictures?

I agree. Jeff, maybe post up your thoughts here before shooting your videos... might save you some headaches. Hate to think you’re following a filming deadline rather than a planned approach to finishing the 640G!

What will you be using on the back to match the lower pressure required for the fronts? It's unbalanced now. I tried to browse through but didn't see anything about the master cylinder either. The four pistons use more fluid so you could get extra travel in your pedal if you don't increase MC diameter.

Seven inches by two inches? That's awful small said my girlfriend. I say average.

I bought from my local dealership, non stocking item so next day for me using these part numbers from @sblake01

Here's a perfect example of this impetuosity I'm talking about. Within a couple of posts you've turned your imagined scenario into fact, and you're looking for "the notes" which document that imagined scenario. It's not scientific, it's not scholarly and it flies in the face of common sense. You told me that you are an "Automotive Historian" and that you have written books and magazine articles. I don't think this is how they work. NEWS FLASH: NMC USA was not directly involved in "developing the 240Z for racing". They passed that task onto the likes of BRE and Bob Sharp Racing to take it on by proxy, supplying them with (mostly stock) hardware and supporting funds. The surrounding stories are all out there, readily available for you to look into and research yourself. We've touched on the topic many times on this forum in the past so there's a rich seam of knowledge to be mined here, but there's plenty available in period and contemporary publications too. You just have to do the due diligence yourself. Nissan Japan - through their 'works' team(s) - carried out their own activities and developments, and it is a BIG topic. There's no single one-shot injection of knowledge about all this and - once again - if you want to research it then you have to do your own due diligence. At some point it will become apparent to you that the real truth about the activities of a Japanese company, a Japanese car and related matters largely happening in Japan are - if you're lucky - written in Japanese and passed between interested parties in Japan. Quite a lot of it is even now - 50 years later - considered as private corporate property not for the consumption of 'civilians' like us. The implication is that you will need to start mining Japanese sources in Japanese, getting in touch with prime movers in Japan and spending a fair bit of precious time and money gathering documentation and evidence. Sometimes you will be trusted with information and documents that you will be asked not to make public and not to 'share'. That's the nature of the beast. My best advice to you is to slow down, research what is already out there and then pursue your own particular line of enquiry. Nobody is going to make a one-shot post for you on here, or give you a memory stick with 'everything' on it.

Thank you Jeff for reminding us privileged yanks how lucky we are to live in a country where 85 Toyota calipers are available at any auto parts store For about $30 each.... PS: no gaskets on the tail lights?

So after a long morning of sandblasting and welding, the hinge mod is installed. I need to pencil grind the welds in the chassis and clean that up for paint etc, but overall I am very happy! and this last one is for Chas @EuroDat

I don’t understand the drama this topic is generating. If there’s knowlege to be shared or gained, why not do so? Instead this has taken on the staging of a made-for-TV mystery with plenty of sinister “you can’t handle the truth” and “if you only knew what I know” wink-wink implications. Great to see 26th-Z’s post, although there’s still the backstory of diagnosing the crank problem.

More like 15 years on here, I'd say. And still we are learning, aren't we? Indeed, we still don't know what we don't know... Our impetuous new friend is currently paddling in shallow waters, unaware of just how cold, dark and deep are the waters that await him the further he gets from shore.

Sorry to say it, but you're barking up the wrong tree. In fact, you might not even be in the right forest...

Some bolts also stretch when torque is applied and should not be re-used. I don't know about factory bolts in that case, but the ARP ones may be reusable? I agree with Alan, it would be good to give rebuilding an S20 a go. That's where all the fun is!

Kats, About the Kameari 'Kyoka' bolts/studs for the S20 engine: This is not really any different to the upgraded bolts and studs offered for any other engine today. In fact, Kameari proudly state that they are made by ARP - probably the most trusted brand for this kind of item worldwide. ARP are almost a byword for quality and integrity, and they offer parts for our L-gata engines too. The advantage of such bolts and studs is that they are stronger for the same or similar torque settings, are often made from better materials than the OEM equipment due to advances in metallurgy, heat treatments and finishes, as well as retrospective re-engineering. Replacing factory bolts with ARP studs and nuts is very common these days and is certainly wiser than using old and/or untested parts. And when you can't see them inside the engine they are not going to be offensive to the eye. I think you could easily rebuild an S20 yourself, Kats. They are beautifully designed and engineered, and a pleasure to assemble. It's not one big job, it's just lots of small ones. You can do it! When I start to build S20 no.3 I'll let you know. I'll probably be needing some of those parts you've got there! But before that, I have to build an 'interesting' L24-based engine for the ex-Kuwashima san 240ZG. It's in the body shop being painted now.

Cody and I are also working on some support for the Xenon air dam I want to avoid this So I am missing the valance support on the front of the car. There were a few parts left, but it was pretty much gone. So we cleaned it back to the radiator support and started templating Cereal boxes make for great pattern material Cody hates body work but he likes to weld, so I got him to help me fab t It needs a little more dolly work and I plan on adding flanges down the lower edges similar to the original. It would have been nice to have made it all out of one piece but I don't have the tools or the skills to do that. I think if I had a shrinker/stretcher setup I might could have done it. A metal brake would have been nice to have too. I am working on another bracket that will be mounted to the back of the air dam that will act as a mate and have through bolts so the air dam can be removed. I have some 1/4" and 3/16's rod that is bent to match the air dam shape that will also be added to give some support and shape

Hi Alan , I am checking parts what I have ? (for my PLS30 project? ) but I don’t have skills and don’t have an experience to build an engine . I sometimes dream about doing it by myself under supervisor . To be honest, just looking at those interesting parts without assembling is the most fun and happiest moment for me . When I put the parts once , then I can’t see the most of them . Alan , or anyone please teach me , a bolt for securing a head and a block , Kameari -Engine Works sells “ Kyoka- type “ head bolt. Does it means more durable? More stiff ? I think it can be tighten much more higher torque than the one from Nissan original. But , I don’t think it is a good idea to tighten the bolts more than specifically directed in the service manual. So , why people want “ Kyoka- type “aftermarket bolts for the place which is specifically directed tightening torque? Here is the website Kameari Engine Works , http://www.kameariengineworks.co.jp/Catalogue-v3/catalogue-035-S20-NEW-20181203.pdf I missed Nissan stock head bolts , I am thinking to buy Kameari or wait for another Nissan original new bolts ( but I don’t know when it comes up next ! ) Kats Alan , let me know when you begin your the third S20 engine building!!

Probably the best quality video featuring a S30 that I've seen.