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Fairlady 432 at Auction


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3 hours ago, kats said:

I took the pictures 2018, you can see some items are replaced to be more proper .

Are they genuine Kobe Seiko Rally Mag's or are they reproductions?

3 hours ago, Patcon said:

So what are the white marks on the glass? It looks like frost or cracks but is sort of hard to tell what it really is

Age..unfortunately.

3 hours ago, kats said:

4 speed transmission with 3.35 doesn’t need busy work, almost like an automatic transmission when you in a 3rd gear .

All of these things make me feel “ I really love 
my 240Z ! “

Must be old age Kats, you're getting soft. ?

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1 hour ago, Patcon said:

So is it better to have the original spidering plexi glass then replacements? It would drive me nuts to have that crazing every where.

Presumably the star-crazed original is hanging on someone's wall as garage art, as it has been replaced with a new reproduction on the auction car.

Personally I'd rather have the patinated original, but that's just me. They didn't normally get as bad as that. Car may have been in a hailstorm, or attacked by acorn-throwing squirrels, at some point in its life.

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I understand the patina to a certain degree but when it starts to be really obscured, I think it would drive me nuts. Now mind you, I am looking at this from a drivers perspective.  If its a garage queen time capsule, that's different. For me, though, I don't want a car I dont plan on driving.  No matter what I paid.

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21 minutes ago, Patcon said:

I understand the patina to a certain degree but when it starts to be really obscured, I think it would drive me nuts. Now mind you, I am looking at this from a drivers perspective.  If its a garage queen time capsule, that's different. For me, though, I don't want a car I dont plan on driving.  No matter what I paid.

Nothing to stop such a car being driven. That's what its for, and what it likes.

In fact, this particular car is several steps on from being a factory-correct 'survivor' car and has been prepared - noting engine work by S20 specialists 'R Factory' - to be a trouble-free turnkey driver. I just hope it goes into the hands of somebody who will enjoy driving it whilst we are still allowed to do so...

Personally I'd just like to see some of that glaringly-new 918 paint inside the car covered by more 432-R-correct satin black. 

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4 hours ago, Patcon said:

I understand the patina to a certain degree but when it starts to be really obscured, I think it would drive me nuts.

It's a difficult 1, I recently got another 240z that is very "patina" and it kind of drives me nuts that the paint is flawed on 1 hand but on the other I want to keep it that way. Not sure I'll be able to resist repainting it forever though.. But it helps that I'm kind of broke for the minute. Having said that, it's kind of what makes up a cars history, all those flaws, stone chips etc.. I recall seeing Nick Mason's Ferrari GTO and it still has the original seat material and all the wear and tear. I kind of think it makes sense on such cars. As with this 432-R.

3 hours ago, HS30-H said:

Personally I'd just like to see some of that glaringly-new 918 paint inside the car covered by more 432-R-correct satin black.

Can you show me examples of the areas that should be more satin black? Was it a brushed black paint like the front radiator support area?

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Hi Gavin , I don’t know the car has a true rally wheels , it seems to me it has replica ones because it is a very clean and neat appearance . Alan will tell us about it .

I became old , Gavin . I turned 50 in last June , PS30-00001 was also born in June 1969 .

And I am so jealous of Z432-R . But now way afford to Buy it . So I force myself to say “ I don’t want a R , no heater in a cold winter  , no reclining for a long distance trip , their engine is nothing different from my standard Z432 ! “
But we know Mr . Takeuchi ( PS30-00187 ) takes his Z432-R almost everywhere , every month for a lot of car events . Probably his car is the most tripped car among Z432-R , even standard Z432 . His Z432-R ‘s S20 had a 

overhaul this year , probably third time in its life . 

Here is a good thread started by Alan .

 

Kats
 

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Can we say we have three kinds of Z432-R ? 
 

#1 Factory Works race car ( everything special) 

#2 Private race car ( some works parts , and , mostly race option parts which can be purchased from “ Nissan sports corner “ )

#3 Plain stock car sold to the public 

( car like displayed at Tokyo motor show , Ginza show room , engine / transmission/ differential/ wheels / steering / brakes / etc are the same as standard Z432 , race option parts were available for customers choice ) 

What we see today , 10- 15 Z432-Rs are existing, most of them are #3 car . I think I have seen only two private race cars  , Mr. Katori and Mr. Terashima have it . 


Alan , have you ever seen #1 Factory Works race car in your life ? And should I  say there would be # 1.5 ( halfway Works and Private ) race car ? 
 

Here is a scan from a Car graphic 12/1969 

you see the plain Z432 which has a Z432-R dash board ( no cut away for the clock , blowers, glove box key etc ) with a standard steering wheel . Note the head rest is only for the drivers seat , rear strut support vinyl trim ,

and the JDM spec battery omitted its cover .

No heater ! No inspection lamp at the right front strut tower .

Kats

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