26th-Z

The boss of a big company needed to call one of his employees about an urgent problem with one of the main computers, dialed the employee's home phone number and was greeted with a child's whisper, "Hello." "Is your daddy home?" he asked. "Yes," whispered the small voice. "May I talk with him?" The child whispered, "No." Surprised, and wanting to talk with an adult, the boss asked, "Is your mommy there?" "Yes." "May I talk with her?" Again the small voice whispered, "No." Hoping there was somebody with whom he could leave a message, the boss asked, "Is anybody else there?" "Yes," whispered the child, "a policeman." Wondering what a cop would be doing at his employee's home, the boss asked, "May I speak with the policeman?" "No, he's busy," whispered the child. "Busy doing what?" "Talking to Daddy and Mommy and the Fireman," came the whispered answer. Growing concerned and even worried as he heard what sounded like a helicopter through the ear piece on the phone the boss asked, "What is that noise?" "A hello-copper," answered the whispering voice. "What is going on there?" asked the boss, now alarmed. In an awed whispering voice the child answered, "The search team just landed the hello-copper." Alarmed, concerned, and even more then just a little frustrated the boss asked, "What are they searching for?" Still whispering, the young voice replied along with a muffled giggle:"ME."

Your best bet is probably going to be Zbarn because of the shipping costs. Shipping a hatch is going to cost you the better part of $100. I have found Greyhound bus to be reasonable. http://zbarn.com/

I have no idea.

I bought and plan to use this Momo wheel on one of my Zs. The smaller diameter will indeed increase your effort to turn the wheel. Make sure you get the right adaptor. I thought I saw an adaptor on eBay for sale. A Nissan horn button for the adaptor is being offered by "choosalogin", but if you buy a new wheel, get the whole setup. Momo products are first rate quality - enjoy.

Same here! I collect pictures of them. Please include some information about the car.

Completely agree.

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Yes you have to remove the timing cover. Just think of how clean and lovely everything witll be when you get it all back together!!!!!

I went over to the PBS site to see what they had and couldn't find it. This one is on the History Channel site "Nissan Z" http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml?id=72035 I have this and it is pretty good.

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So what if we take it too far. Love the conversation and now I am challenged to take a look for the moulding fingerprint. I had not thought of the S30-S application. Good point. Keep that in mind when you consider the source of the HLS30 derivation, eh? You made a couple of other points pertinent to recent threads on this site. I think we are still on topic although we are getting rather obscure. "these humble Japanese sports-GTs are the most 'exotic' things I have come across." Yes. Humble in their simplicity yet so efficient. I think it is also appropriate to point out that the use of injection moulded panels for automotive interiors as well as the use of the FRP technology was fairly cutting edge for the time. I see the PZR is coming along nicely. Thanks for the conversation. :classic:

Thank you for your informative answer, Alan. I suspect you remember how interested I have been in the cultural aspects surrounding our Japanese imports. If I understand you correctly, the same reasoning might apply to these stampings? Would we call these Inkan? One appears on my FRP headlight scoops which Endo san told me is a "ken" inspection stamp. The other is his steering wheel showing date of manufacture. Regarding the interior plastic panel moldings, they are indeed injection molded and I can tell you from experience that the butterscotch does not hold it's color evenly. Hand workmanship is also evident on the plastic pieces. Or perhaps the molds were revised. 26 and 27 do not have rear window demisters and there is no notch for the wiring in the headliner panel.

That's the same one, Mike. Perhaps a different piece of paper. This discussion is particularly interesting to me as all of my butterscotch interior panels do not have anything like this. Thanks, as always, Alan for a particularly interesting answer. I would like to hear more about the meaning of the circle (ring) around the letters. What is most provocative is the idea that a "Nan" label would be printed for such a use rather than the notice hand lettered on the part. Further, that the label would remain when the part was placed into service.

Thanks Hayden, I have a collection of these and this is a new one for me. It does not match my usual "ken" markings. They all seem to be made with a rubber stamp. I also looked for something in my reference of Japanese language and can't find anything matching. Very interesting! Did you say they were on all of your interior panels and all the same? The sticker appears to have been placed over the red coloring and beneath the glue for the foam padding indicating it is original and also indicating the red color is original. I can confirm that the foam is similar to typical production padding material. Alan would certainly be of help!

There was a picture of the left rear hatch sill showing a 6-pak of Coronas. If they are still cold, you might have to pay a little more! I agree with all the advice so far. The floors are probably worse than they look in my experience. The car has 3 - 4 thousand dollars worht of rust issues. The dash does look good, but other critical interior parts are either missing or damaged. I would guess another 3 grand on the interior. Figure 2-3 grand to get the engine running and.... Oh what am I saying here? This car is $12,000 worth of work to make it a nice daily driver.

Check out pictures of the rally cars also. As I recall, the tops of the fenders were painted black also.

I noticed your hand written paint code number, Vicky. Lets try GEORGIA font 112 906 Georgia is supposed to be close. ( I can't see what this looks like until the post is uploaded ) However the "roman" font group seems to be closest. "Romant" "Romanc" "Pan Roman" and "Euro Roman" fonts are all pretty close. My opinion is that the paint numbers were originally rubber stamped with ink and that is my plan when I get to that point. EDIT: Nope. Georgia isn't correct. Sorry.

I switched subscriptions last year from "Grassroots Motorsports" to Classic Motorsports" and I like Classic better as it is more atuned to the car game I am now playing. Even though it is oriented to the English sports car, I find a lot of similarities to my Z interests. When they discussed the Datsun roadster in it's various models, thye mentioned that the Datsun roadster came to market before the MGB. I was surprised to see the BMW 2002 get higher ratings than the 510.

Brandy, I'm reading and reading, and then I linked over to have a look at Ruby, and I have some basic confusion. Lets get some terminology straight, first. The wheel is the round metal thing that bolts on to the car. The tire is the rubber stuff filled with air that goes around the wheel. Wheels on a stock 240Z are 14" in diameter and 4-1/2" wide. Datsun 240Zs never had 13" wheels. Ruby looks like she already has 14" wheels. Go measure the diameter. 14" wheels are not very common any more and most people are buying 15" diameter new wheels to fit the Z. Used 14" wheels are quite common and Ruby will fit into a size 4-1/2" to 6" width without any problem. She could also wear a 15" wheel in those widths without any big deal. In used 14" wheels, some of the hottest fashions are "slots", "ARE Libres", and "Watanabes" in my opinion. Now lets talk tires. The stock tire was a 175 /60SR14, but that isn't made anymore. 195 /60SR14s replace that old size and fit best on a 4-1/2" wide wheel. If you go over to the Tire Rack site, you can read about the size of the tire versus the width and what all those numbers mean. Check this site out also. http://www.powerdog.com/tiresize.cgi Keep in mind that Ruby's speedometer is set up for the original 175 size tire on a 14" diameter wheel and the resultant overall diameter. You want to stay as close to that diameter as you can. Around 22.3 inches. So if you go with a larger diameter wheel, you will want a lower profile tire. Wider wheels will demand a wider tire. Have fun.

The latest issue of Classic Motorsports magazine (#112, Jan 2005) contains their readers chioce poll of the top fifty classic sports cars, "Best Sports Cars of All Time", "The Fabulous 50", a readers survey conducted some months ago. The top ten include; 1. MGB 2. Jaguar E-type 3. Porsche 911 4. AC/Shelby Cobra 5. Chevy Corvette Stingray 6. Datsun 240Z 7. Jaguar XK120 8. Triumph TR2, TR3 9. Austin Healy Sprite / MG Midget 10. Austin Morris Mini The Datsun Roadster finished 16th. The Datsun 510 finished 36th. Other articles include an auction report; "We believe the Datsun 240Z is on the brink of true classic status, so buy one now and enjoy the fact that it's a fun, reliable sports car to boot". There is coverage of the ZCCA national convention and a nice photo of the Zclub line-up at the Walter Mitty. "Datsun showed everyone in 1969 that the Japanese could build cars as well as anyone. The 240Z was superior to any other low-priced sports car on the market, and could embarrass some that cost thousands more. Plus, it was reliable, comfortable and well made. For the first time, buyers flocked to Datsun showrooms. If the Z wasn't Japanese, it would have been widely recognized as a classic from day one. Because it is Japanese, far too many have been left to rot away due to rust and neglect".

Yea, Ed. That's the stuff. Eastwood's loom tape. Glue the ends over a double wrap instead of tying it off. If you are going for points, make sure you get the part labels off the original harness. They are dated. Thanks for the link.

Nice car, welcome to the club!

Yea, that is what is listed and I think it comes from Humble's book. I really don't want the adhesive either.

For what it's worth now that I missed most of this discussion. The "Z Restoration Program" data calls for "3M Scotchbrand" tape and lists part number 054007-06130. I have not looked for it yet. Remember to never use the F word when discussing the Vintage Z Restoration Program!