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Agree to Disagree and move on. This is not what I personally need to see.

Rear view mirror, with attach brackets and sun visor support pads, including screws. Missing knob to adjust mirror.

There we go again with the insults. I've found that people like that aren't very happy people in general - that's always been my frame of mind when trying to understand such behavior.

Jim, I didn't even know 240s were supposed to have carpet clips! Hold them for me for my next trip to Calgary? d*** McDonel

For sale is a rebuilt circuit board for the 75-78 280z OEM clock. The circuit boad is usually what fails. Cost is $80 (includes shipping). For questions contact me at: ron@zclocks.com. Thanks for looking....

@w3wilkes no, as near as I can tell, I am the fourth owner since the restoration. I have contact info for owners 2 and 3. Owner #2 is the one that told me he bought it off eBay 20ish years ago from a guy in Michigan. I'm trying to contact the original owner in hopes of either getting a scan or procuring the "Certificate of Authenticity" signed by Mr. K. EDIT: further poking around on the internet has revealed a new name: https://web.archive.org/web/20130102122335/http://www.editgrid.com/user/mlwilliams/Z_Car_Registry EDIT2: a later revision of this list and the owner name has changed: https://web.archive.org/web/20131128034951/http://www.editgrid.com/user/mlwilliams/Z_Car_Registry

68727 is listed in the VZ section of Carl Becks site, registered 10 years ago. Is this the prior owner you mention? VIN: HLS30 68727 Production Date: 02 / 72 Color Body /Int: Red/black Orig.Eng.Number: L24 86793 Owner: Rick Bailey City/State/Cntry: Akron, Ohio USA Sold By Z Store: Courtesy Nissan Comments: e-mail: Date Registered: 1 May 2015 Reported by: Owner

Another weird flex from you. I have no idea who the people you speak to for your "background information" (woohoo) are, nor did I assume to know them. If you think I did then you might like to do some re-reading. Arrogance? The person talking about "resident armchair experts" might want to look in a mirror occasionally. And what's this "across the pond" thing about? Is it supposed to be some kind of slight? This forum has active members from across the globe and is much the better for it. I mentioned the author of the two books in the context of certain sources being - arguably - less reliable witnesses than would be ideal, even given their proximity to events. The point being made seems to have sailed over your head. The whole reason I posted the photos from the magazine reports - with the engines/engine parts at Pierre's - was because of the post from Zed Head throwing doubt on the idea that they had been fully rebuilt. Obviously they were. But then the claim was made - baldly, without qualification or caveat - that AEM rebuilt them. Dangerous if swallowed whole. Both positions were wrong. You get my point about gurus? Probably not... Huh? Again, I posted the photos in response to a suggestion that the engines were not properly overhauled. The inference was that corners were cut (specifically in relation to valve seats) and the period magazine shots from Pierre's workshop tell a different story. Documentary evidence, for which I was thanked (gracefully) by an interested party whilst the person who made the suggestion of non-overhaul blithely moves on, otherwise unchallenged (LOL). I don't know what the fact that the magazine articles happened to have been published in contemporary Japanese titles has to do with anything, except that you seem particularly exercised - if not slightly overexcited - by it. They showed the point I was making. Simple as that. Oh and "...worships at the house of Japanese superiority..." is a good one, even if it exists solely in your imagination. These are, after all, Japanese cars so it seems germane to take the Japanese side of the story - at the very least - into account. I certainly wouldn't recommend ignoring it, even though the cars and the people who built them came from "across the pond"... Blind spot for you, perhaps? Ha ha ha! Classic. One for the archives there. Comedy gold. Thank you. Thinks: I'll park it up next to 'The Factory'.

I remember my older brother and Dad were swapping a clutch. I jumped in the car, pushed the clutch to the floor, blowing out the slave cylinder. I got out of the car and started running! Fun times. My Dad is now 87 and loves to brag on my mechanic ability. He's my biggest fan.....now. Lots of great memories.

I always enjoy it when our resident armchair expert (RAE) from across the pond makes assumptions that turn out to be wrong. To assume he knows the people I speak to for my background information is the level of arrogance, Just as he has done here: "In contrast, one of your "people involved in the program" has knocked out a couple of hardback books - to great fanfare - but which are packed with enough misconceptions, mis-captions and plain old mistakes as to make them all but worthless for entertainment let alone reference material. You'd be well advised to take care in choosing your gurus." I've never spoken to or been in contact with that person, nor do I have his books. Yet again RAE has gone far off the beaten track. Even the people I have spoken to didn't have a lot of good things to say about the program manager you refer to. It's obvious from the photos from the Japanese magazines they are early cars, the cars in the pictures are instantly identifiable from the master list of the Vintage Z build. If you watch the videos @deanhuff posted links to you can see them at Pierre's shop. It's no great mystery but documented evidence. Just as they put the engines in conventionally at the beginning of the program, they got more efficient fitting rebuilt engines supplied by AER from below by lowering the car onto the assembly. Oh I forgot, RAE worships at the house of Japanese superiority and how could they be wrong having put some photos in a Japanese magazine. The VZ program was an American program, done in the USA and sold in the USA, not sure how the Japanese had much if anything to do with it.

"Hold that damn light still!" was heard many times in my early years. When he would finish a repair I was put in charge of cleaning all the tools and putting them away.

Deanhuff, I am in Maine for the week, returning Saturday the 16th. I will contact you when I get back.

The classiczcars.com knowledge base was pretty much built on the experience, expertise and forensic investigative curiosity of "armchair experts". Much of the historical data and official documentation you now take for granted - and quote from - made its public debut here thanks to enthusiastic amateurs. In contrast, one of your "people involved in the program" has knocked out a couple of hardback books - to great fanfare - but which are packed with enough misconceptions, mis-captions and plain old mistakes as to make them all but worthless for entertainment let alone reference material. You'd be well advised to take care in choosing your gurus. Just a few posts ago, the claim was made that "AER Manufacturing in Carrolton, TX remanufactured the engines." Sounds quite definitive, doesn't it? But... Thanks for the, er, clarification but the word "may" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. Is it anything more than a guess that the incomplete engines photographed by two different Japanese magazine photographers just happened to be some of these "early ones", rather than any other explanation? At the very least the contrast between the two statements illustrates that a little pragmatism is required when investigating the 'facts' behind the legend. The more I've read about the 'VZ Program' over the years, the more it seems to be revealed as something less than the well-planned and executed operation that its PR at the time would have us believe. A really great idea, less than ideally planned and executed, ending short of its original targets. The resulting cars are great in and of themselves and the story has paid dividends in terms of column inches, but overall the 'Program' seems like the proverbial swan - floating serenely on the surface whilst paddling furiously below...

All, The mounted muffler appears to be silver. The unmounted muffler (photos 2 and 3 above) have a greenish tint. Any consensus on the correct color? Thanks, Keith

Have uploaded the file to the archives.

Love the videos, lots of detail on how they built the cars up. Great find after all these years.

Ignore the women. Just enjoy the sound of the fretless bass. Like a string trombone.

Bump Anyone have a comment? Keith

That document should be downloaded then uploaded to the Resources area before it disappears. I saved a copy. Not sure which category it might belong in. Maybe the Vintage program should be a separate category. https://www.classiczcars.com/files/ or https://www.classiczcars.com/articles/

My Dad raised a gearhead and I didn't even know it. Started out as the keeper of the light shining "right here damnit" then tool chaser, he'd get flustered and throw wrenches. He hardly ever used sockets.

Hi Dean Thanks for finding the document I was referring to. Based on this, chalk one up for me!

@26th-Z I have been looking for the red "Rebirth" brochure, would it be possible for me to make a scan of this? I'm located near Sarasota. Also I've been looking for the original owner to my #HLS3068727 car. A previous owner told me he bought it off eBay from a guy in Michigan 20 years ago. Does anyone by any chance have an archive showing the seller's user name?

@SpeedRoo Thanks for the addition, I scoured the internet and found the checklist document via the wayback machine Cylinder head checklist #4 states "new seats"...so it looks like hardend valve seats were in the protocol.