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    I talked to engineers, surgeons, librarians, and other professionals. Kid's hand-motor-skills are gone as well as drawing abilities.  No writing and limited printing... hands are becoming useless.... can't hold a wrench or a screw.... lame arse generations ahead.

     

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    My son just doesn’t want to get greasy dirty - clean freak, but at least his room was clean. My daughter probably understands cars more then most men her age (30). At least my son will have a degree and already has made his fame and the daughter will always be employed - SO - dad won’t be supporting anyone but the Z -lol

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    3 hours ago, Av8ferg said:


    We are creating weak men in my opinion.
    When I was a kid both my Grandfather and Father could fix and build anything and worked their tails off to provide for their families. People today are generally helpless, lazy and at the same time arrogant. Sorry for the rant!

    Amen brother.

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    Hey, spent most to the morning yesterday cleaning the carbon off my pistons so I could get them installed this week.
    Technique was to use WD-40 and a scotch brite pad. Also let them soak in and acetone ATF brew for about an hour each. Final clean up with brake cleaner. Used the old rings to lightly scrape out carbon from ring grooves.
    So during cleaning and with my 8x googles on I notice a few pistons with very minor nicks. Not sure the mechanism other than I know at least 2 feel out of the block when I removed them. Anyway, I think they’re cosmetic and don’t think they compromise the integrity of the piston but I thought I’d post and see what you guys think.

    See my video below.







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    Nice camera work!
    Some of the nicks look like casting flaws, some look like impact damage. Agree nothing to worry about.

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    They do look good!  Now you should weigh them and make them the same.  Seems like mine were 700 something grams each, cap and rod together.

    Just remembering how I did that and I may have the number wrong.  I had to weigh a railroad spike and write that down then hang the spike on the scales and weigh the pistons.  Added those two numbers together I believe was what I did. 

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    Thanks guys. Moving forward!
    So, I’ve read about people weighing the piston assemblies but don’t have the details or what the benefits are. Smother running engine? I guess you find the lightest assembly and find a place to remove material from the others the get close to the lightest? I don’t want to remove the rod from the piston because I don’t have the tools to properly set the pin back in, so not sure if you have to do that. Didn’t really follow railroad tie process you mentioned


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     If you don't want to separate the rods from the pistons, weigh the assemblies. It's not as good as weighing items separately but it will give you more info. 

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    That kanga link that was posted recently has some good info. One video was balancing piston assemblies

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    Is the cheapo HF scale good enough to do the weight matching? Mine has resolution down to 1g (in theory). I have no idea how accurate it is on an absolute reading, but it ought to be reasonably good at relative (comparative) measurements.

    You don't care much about the absolute number... You just want to see if they're all the same.

     

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    Thanks, now I feel compelled to weigh my assemblies and see where they are. Ordering a scale from Amazon now that is accurate within .5 grams.
    Home Built By Jeff posted a video of him balancing his pistons assemblies. He did it with pistons connected to rods. Down the rabbit hole I go.


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    You really want to balance the pistons separately if you are going to do it. The rods should be balanced big end and little end. If you are going to do it, I would have the shop separate them for you then heat and reassemble when done. Fairly inexpensive to have done. If you're going to spend the time, might as well do it the best way possible

    You could probably come up with a way to separate them at home. a couple of sockets and a C clamp or something but you need to heat the small end to reassemble them.

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    Well, as you guys know I’ve been cleaning pistons all week. Like many of you, I have a case of OCD and I cannot let things not just okay. I know it’s not necessary to clean the underside of the pistons immaculately but I couldn’t leave them nasty looking. It would bother me to leave them like that. Like when Steve Jobs asked his engineers when looking at the iPhone prototype he asked what the screws were made of. When they told him normal steel he wasn’t happy and wanted them to be stainless steel. They said “no one will ever know and it would be more expensive”. He responded “ I don’t care...I will know” That’s the story I was told not sure if it factual but it makes my point.

    So I’ve been cleaning the inside of the pistons...if you think the top is hard it’s worse under due to tight crannies and grooves. I’ve experimented with a lot of products this week. Here’s my rating on their ability to remove carbon residue. Scale is 1-10. 10 is best (this isn’t Asia where #1 is best)

     

    WD-40 = 5/10

    Acetone = 6/10

    Mineral Spirits = 2/10

    Sea foam 2/10

    Carb Cleaner 8/10

    Purple Power 9/10

     

    I had a bottle of purple power on my shelf already. Said, what the heck let me try it. Sprayed it on the underside of the piston and walked away for 10 mins. Came back and there was a black puddle under the piston. This stuff is amazing. No scrubbing, no wire brush or scotch brite. Wipe clean with a shop towel and hit with a blast of carb cleaner and....boom spotless!!!

    Check it out below.

    10 min soak and 5 min to wipe clean and hit with carb cleaner .

     

    Unbelievable!!

     

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    I pulled my ultrasonic off the shelf a couple days ago to see if it was large enough to fit the piston top inside to clean the ring grooves, and it's not only large enough for that, but it's actually large enough to accept an entire piston AND rod.

    Sounds like I should get myself a bottle of Purple Power as my cleaner liquid for the US!

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    My rings grooves are looking good now. Needed a light brush up with a brass brush to get the hardened stuff totally out. 5035af18d1dfb6576e0ddbf71f395179.jpg


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