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I did read the info you guys gave me. Some say they came from the factory with it and many say they don't and it was just a dealer option ? And the 240Z and later 260/280Z have different splash pans ?

I just want to know if they came from the factory with that splash pan ( 240Z ) ? if not, then I don't want it either...

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3 hours ago, bartsscooterservice said:

I just want to know if they came from the factory with that splash pan ( 240Z ) ? if not, then I don't want it either...

I'm sure the dutch/euro version of the 240z came with the stone guard..  They lasted not very long in our weather…. and were thrown away.   My very Original 280zx 1979 has one to!   (still in my cellar/parts shop hahaha…    I got an Original stone guard plate for you if you want one …..  so you can now get a supporter of my restoration 😁

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3 hours ago, bartsscooterservice said:

I did read the info you guys gave me. Some say they came from the factory with it and many say they don't and it was just a dealer option ? And the 240Z and later 260/280Z have different splash pans ?

I just want to know if they came from the factory with that splash pan ( 240Z ) ? if not, then I don't want it either...

Hi , I don’t know much of it , as far as I understand is Fairlady-Z  ( Japanese model   ) series always have it . Not an optional item , it is a mandatory item for Fairlady-Z series even 240ZG .

For export  model , I don’t know. But except very early prototype used as an example for the service manual and 1973 model year car  ( maybe at or later Aug 1972 ) in the US , they don’t have it . Please note the early one does not have holes like you see them on later one shown in the picture .

Kats

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My 69,??? vin 1972 did not have one. My '77 has one. 

I want one for my 240 though as they seal up a little better the engine bay, pulling most of the air through the radiator. I think it would run cooler with one. My opinion only...

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On ‎9‎/‎2‎/‎2019 at 2:33 PM, kats said:

 

 Please note the early one does not have holes like you see them on later one shown in the picture .

Kats

I checked mine and it does seem to have the holes for it ?

How about this 1970 one that has one to ? Is it not correct ?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-datsun-240z-39/

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Hi , I saw the pictures, I think the car was added the later pan at some point before .

Except a very few prototypes, US and Canada S30 cars ( 240Z ) 1969 October to 1972 August don’t have the pan . I guess this could be true for all export models .

My 01/1970 Z432 has a non - hole pan from the beginning, 

My 03/1970 US 240Z doesn’t have a pan from the beginning but was added a non - hole pan by me for fun .

My 06/1972 Fairlady 240ZG has a non- hole pan from the beginning .

My 12/1971 US 240Z doesn’t have a pan from the beginning.

Kats

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@Kats that's good you have that information ! Maybe that seller from the link above thought it came stock with the 240Z. Still many mistakes 50 years on from now on how it was!

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3 hours ago, kats said:

Except a very few prototypes, US and Canada S30 cars ( 240Z ) 1969 October to 1972 August don’t have the pan . I guess this could be true for all export models .

 

Certainly all UK market, and - as far as I am aware - all 'Euro' market cars - DID have the splash pan.

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Thanks Alan for correcting me , I have learned a new thing . 

I am curious about Australia cars in the same time period . 

What made Nissan decide some destinations have the pan and others don’t . Doesn’t seem there was a serious 

issue to do that . Cost matter ? Or weight saving?

Kats

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From AUTO CAR 6 May 1971/ 10 August 1972 / 14 September 1972 

I can see the splash pan for each car .

I have heard  the red 240Z (HS30-00035) was intended to ship to Australia originally but it ended up landing at Europe,  if so , the Australian 240Z has the pan .

Kats

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See.. new information is coming out, glad I started this topic. My 240Z I checked the drilling holes for the splash pan, and they appear factory stock, not added later.. but I could be wrong here offcourse.

Could it be that the Z's that went to midwest or east ( colder ) parts of the USA did got the splash pan, and Z's from the west coast dryer parts ( California etc ) didn't have one ?

 

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2 hours ago, bartsscooterservice said:

See.. new information is coming out, glad I started this topic. My 240Z I checked the drilling holes for the splash pan, and they appear factory stock, not added later.. but I could be wrong here offcourse.

If you look further at your car you will see other details that were added because the parts/assemblies were common with those used on other variants and other market models. For example, your radiator support panel has holes and captive nuts to accommodate the fitting of an oil cooler, radiator overflow reservoir tank and air filter box/ducting. Your front differential crossmember has double cutouts and double captive nuts to allow the mounting of a twin pipe exhaust system. There are many details like these on our cars.

The holes for the splash pan mounting screws were added to the relevant structural parts of the monocoque when they were made and those components were shared across other variants/markets, so their presence does not necessarily indicate that the car was originally fitted with a splash pan. More that the structure was designed and manufactured with the ability to accommodate one.

2 hours ago, bartsscooterservice said:

Weather >?

I think that's a pretty good guess. It seems that some climates considered wet/snowy got the splash pans, whilst others possibly considered predominately 'dry' (except when I go there on holiday...) did not. A little like the initial heated rear window situation for the HLS30U, perhaps? 

There's also the possibility of a cost factor - however minor - being involved. Some of the decisions made about the HLS30U variants seem to be about cutting costs wherever possible in order to mitigate the chosen selling price. 

In my experience the splash pans - it does what it says on the box - are very effective. Perhaps a little too vulnerable, and they get in the way when you want to work under the car, but they work.

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37 minutes ago, bartsscooterservice said:

Okay. Well I hope we can find ( or Kats maybe ? ) some more info on these. Since nobody's doesn't really seem to know the answer to this exactly..

With respect, I think the answer - for your 1971 production HLS30U model - was clearly given by Kats further up the thread. The highest probability is that your car did NOT come with one as-delivered from the factory, but could accommodate the fitting of one if that's what you want to do.

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I have a 3/73 240z and the only "option" listed as additional charge was the console armrest....and it has the stone guard under the engine.

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