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72 Fairlady Z never converted to US requirements

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My Father In Law passed away and he has some vehicles. One that he has is a 1972 Blue Fairlady Z with original 40,511 miles on it. The vehicle has never been converted to US emissions and does not even have a US vin # attached to it. The body and interior are in excellent condition but the engine has not been turned in quite a while. It appears that this vehicle was oringally owned by a US servicemen as it has a US Armed Forces sticker in the upper center of windshiled dated 1974. The left side window still has a sticker on it from Japan. Everything on the vehicle is in japanese. Where is a great place to put this vehicle up for sale as it may be a one of a kind. 

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Hoover do you know much about this specific vehicle? How many do you think are in the states that have never been converted to US? 

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There are actually many that were brought back.  Prices are still high.

https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/58665-1972-fairlady-z-value/

https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/62503-77-fairlady-z-on-craigslist/?tab=comments#comment-579787

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-datsun-s30-fairlady-z-right-hand-drive-japan-only/

 

Please post pics and the rest of the gang here can help you out. There are also experts from UK an Japan here who have great knowledge.

@HS30-H @kats@Mike B

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Great to see another one surface. Same year as mine, S30-100698, with original 2l engine. (They changed the numbering format in that year, adding an additional digit. //////0

Mine also moved to the us with a returning service man. 

There were a couple of different models produced; FZ and FZ-L. The L had carpets, a rally clock and an 8 track. Does yours have a clock? 

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6 hours ago, BarbnBobB said:

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Judging by the bumpers (no rubber trim) I'd say it is likely to be an S30-S model 'Z-S' / 'Z-Std' / 'Standard' Fairlady Z rather than a Deluxe. The S30-S model had a 4-speed transmission as stock equipment, but the 5-speed O/D trans was an extra cost showroom option. Should be pretty easy to pin down the original model type.

It looks to be in great unmessed-with 'survivor' condition and should be pretty easy to sell. Why not try to sell it here on classiczcars.com?

Is it my imagination (can't see it all that clearly) or has the original bonnet/hood 'Z' emblem been replaced with a 'Datsun' emblem from an Export market car?

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12 minutes ago, siteunseen said:

What is that?

 

Forward seat-mount brackets, as fitted to the Japanese market cars:

 

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8 minutes ago, siteunseen said:

Thank you.  I was curious as to what the carpet looking ring is?

The 'S30-S' model came from the factory with rubber mats (visible forward of the seat in that photo) rather than carpets, but I presume it is something attached to/around the forward seat bracket.

Looks like a piece of foam or something to my eye, but hard to tell. I don't think it's anything worth worrying about...

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Thanks for all of the input, we actually have 3 other 240Z's 1 1970 and 2 71's. I ahve pics of two of them with one being the white one. I will be looking to sell them as well but doing all of my research to determine proper value for each of them. 

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I see two mats; a mat with ribs running laterally across the car and another mat with ribs running longitudinally on top.  I'll bet the mats were the same as what was exported.  Also noticing a dogleg shift insinuating a 5-speed.  What is the silver plate on the door just ahead of the handle?  It doesn't seem to be a step light.  Blanking plate?

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33 minutes ago, BarbnBobB said:

Thanks for all of the input, we actually have 3 other 240Z's 1 1970 and 2 71's. I ahve pics of two of them with one being the white one. I will be looking to sell them as well but doing all of my research to determine proper value for each of them. 

Your Father-in-law would be very happy to know these guys. Could've been on here before himself.

They will give you good honest information, opinions about selling them at top dollar for his family.

Best of luck down the road. You have a nice, clean job ahead of you. 😇

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49 minutes ago, 26th-Z said:

Thanks  I have never seen that.  What does it say, Alan?

It's the 'Seibi' sticker. Maintenance/check precautions. Annoying Nanny State stuff which used to be known as common sense...

If the printed writing is still legible its a good pointer to a little-used car I'd say. Enthusiastic cleaning rubbed them bare. 

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1 hour ago, 26th-Z said:

I see two mats; a mat with ribs running laterally across the car and another mat with ribs running longitudinally on top.  I'll bet the mats were the same as what was exported.

I would expect the material of the Z-S rubber mats to be the same as those the very first Export cars, but of course the shape would be different in RHD vs LHD configurations with the details for the pedal areas also differing. Rib pattern area is port-to-starboard rather than fore-to-aft. I think the photo on question might show an extra foot mat over the original full-length mat?

Here's the passenger side Z-S floor mat in my 432-R replica for comparison:

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18 hours ago, 240260280 said:

Please post pics and the rest of the gang here can help you out. There are also experts from UK an Japan here who have great knowledge.

@HS30-H @kats@Mike B

I would say that @Mike B will be a great resource for references on this particular car. Hopefully he'll be watching.

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