brunodoggy

"Brand new" 280Z

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    Mr.grannyknot:

     

    With all due respect, Sir, I'm not sure I get your point.

     

    Even taking into account the florescent lighting and the iffy quality of the foto, the only thing i can say for sure is what the color shown isn't; it is not the same color as the blue on the exterior of the Z under discussion, paint code notwithstanding. Whether or not the color you show is the same color as on the interior tunnel is moot; the point is that the exterior and interior colors do not match. I attach a shot of my 200K mi. 280 to demonstrate the relevance of this point.

     

    The relevance of the second foto is completely lost on me. As I noted in my last post, my deductive conclusion remains only that the undercarriage clearly shows more than 350mi., without trying to predict the true mileage on the chassis (I attach a shot of my 280 (again, 200K mi.) to demonstrate the futility of trying to guess a true mileage based on visible condition alone). My first guess was based on the idea that the odometer belonged to the subject vehicle; I believe my theory about the dash and its instruments negates that preliminary mileage supposition without discrediting the original assumption (more than 350mi).

     

    It is a fine mystery indeed.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Personally I think grannyknot made a valid comment about the color. His point,  I think, was to show a roof shot that is painted the same color as the OP's car assuming the OP's car is original blue, but looks silver because camera auto exposure and color balance functionality can easily be tricked into making, for instance, blues lean silver or reds lean orange or oranges lean red or lemon/lime yellow lean yellow...etc, etc. The question I think grannyknot wants the reader to ask themselves is.... could it be that the ash tray / tunnel shot provided by the OP suffers from the same camera color shift phenomenon, thereby causing the OP's shot to look more silver than blue.

    We could also just bypass the technology (and I am a technology guy...camera hobby guy too).

    OP....what do your eyes see? Is the tunnel of your car and area under the ash tray the same color as the exterior? What about under the carpet on the rear deck? What about under the carpet behind the seats? Under the seats? Under the floor carpet?  Under the rear strut tower caps? 

     

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    Ok.  Here are some more pictures. I am comfortable stating that the 350 miles are true. I pumped up the original tires and they held air! Released the brake and was able to push the car by hand. I was not expecting that!.

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    6 hours ago, ensys said:

    the point is that the exterior and interior colors do not match.

    I posted the pic of my #305 code roof to illustrate how easily this colour can change it's appearance depending on the available light level when the pic was taken, from my experience the colour of the OP's exterior and ash tray cup could easily match.  Now that the OP has posted a pic of the trans tunnel we can all see that they do match.

    6 hours ago, ensys said:

    As I noted in my last post, my deductive conclusion remains only that the undercarriage clearly shows more than 350mi

      To me it shows no such thing,  what I see is virtually no miles but 43 years sitting. 

    @brunodoggy, I don't know what you paid but you got a great deal regardless, take lots of pics.

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    5 hours ago, jonathanrussell said:

    Personally I think grannyknot made a valid comment about the color. His point,  I think, was to show a roof shot that is painted the same color as the OP's car assuming the OP's car is original blue, but looks silver because camera auto exposure and color balance functionality can easily be tricked into making, for instance, blues lean silver or reds lean orange or oranges lean red or lemon/lime yellow lean yellow...etc, etc. The question I think grannyknot wants the reader to ask themselves is.... could it be that the ash tray / tunnel shot provided by the OP suffers from the same camera color shift phenomenon, thereby causing the OP's shot to look more silver than blue.

    Exactly what I was trying to say but you said it with more eloquence:rolleyes:

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    Beautiful car. Museum piece.  Sell it in a couple of years after the 240z priices plateau. Until then get it as original as possible and enter in a Zcon event to get Gold Medallion!.

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    Odd to see a fram oil filter on a 350 mile car? Did he just change oil from time to time over the years?

    Do you mind sharing what you paid?

     

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    21 minutes ago, JSM said:

    Do you mind sharing what you paid?

    Let's just say that if the car did have 100,350 miles I'd still make a nice profit

     

     

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    If you paid less than 30k you got a very good deal. I would sell it right now if it were me. The market is extremely hot and if the economy slows down, values will fall. Turn it into cash and shop for a really clean S30 of your choice. It wouldn't surprise me at all if you could sell the car for 50-60k in the current environment and the right platform. That is a unicorn...

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    Well, this new first-hand evidence is certainly a compelling demonstration of the pitfalls of visuals over the web. The first fotos lead me astray regarding the actual hue of the blue, I reckon (tho the jury may still be out regarding the undercarriage...).

     

    So maybe it wasn't Col. Mustard in the Library with the lead pipe after all.

     

    However, I will reserve a final bark up this tree until after the car's first good wash, over and under.

     

    Still, spot on or off the mark, the exercise was an interesting diversion from the same old, same old.

     

     

     

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    Wow. Well done. I absolutely cannot understand the reasoning behind the whole situation, but it sure does look like that could very well be a 350 mile car.

    So where / how did you find the car? Craigslist? Word of mouth?

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    ensys, I totally appreciate your critical take on this car. This car should not exist. I almost don't believe it and I can see the car in person!

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    1 minute ago, brunodoggy said:

    ensys, I totally appreciate your critical take on this car. This car should not exist. I almost don't believe it and I can see the car in person!

    Like I said, it's a unicorn. Possibly the only 350 mile 280z in existence...

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    3 minutes ago, Captain Obvious said:

    Wow. Well done. I absolutely cannot understand the reasoning behind the whole situation, but it sure does look like that could very well be a 350 mile car.

    So where / how did you find the car? Craigslist? Word of mouth?

    my FIL had a 300ZX AE that had been parked since 1992. About 3 years ago I pulled it out and got it running. Seeing it, my friend said "I have a neighbor that has a Z with no miles but he's not interested in selling".
    Last week my friend was talking to his neighbor who said he was ready to sell his car. The rest is history 

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    Wow. I need to talk to my neighbors more.     ROFL

    Very well done. And I agree with some of the sentiment above... If you have any doubt at all that you're just going to drive it, then I wouldn't even clean it. I would leave it just the way it is and contact BAT.

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    The barn find dirt actually seems to help the value on BaT. Cleaning it might make it bring less money. Sort of like restoring antique furniture. No harm in making a call if you think you might sell it.

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    3 hours ago, siteunseen said:

    Oh hell, now California Datsun will be selling bags of NLA Barn Dirt.

    LOL. I want to wash that dirt off so bad! I just have to wait. It's only "Barn Find Dirty" once. Well probably only one.

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    Blowing the loose dirt off with light air pressure should be okay, or brushing.

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    1 hour ago, brunodoggy said:

    LOL. I want to wash that dirt off so bad! I just have to wait. It's only "Barn Find Dirty" once. Well probably only one.

    Oh, just go ahead and wash it!  Take pictures and then roll it into the garage until 2059 when it can be a 350 mile Barn Find all over  again.  😎

    Dennis

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