Carl Beck

#00064 was dark green and they were asking $50K for it - it was in florida. That First Green Z - the pictures were for a car sold in Bring-A-Trailer...

Agreed - I wouldn't worry about them at all. I have ran 20 year old tires, that have been garage kept - showing no signs of side wall cracking - on Classic Cars driven only occasionally with no problems. The one exception - 1991 Thunderbird Super Coupe, with 10K original miles. Original Tires Goodyear's V Rated... At 21 years old, took it out for a drive and felt the tread separation take place... wobbled my way home - and replace them all the next day. (kept the tires as proof of the mileage on the T-Bird when I sold it in 2002). That said - I'm always keeping an eye open hoping to find any good 195/70R14's for my Z's.. (good looking/brand name/sports car style etc). FWiW, Carl B.

@Namerow As it relates to Nissan - circa 1926 and William R. Gotham. You might enjoy this book: - William R. Gotham: An American Engineer in Japan. (get the hard copy for study/reference - and the digital copy to read etc - all for less than $20 Bucks) https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/don-cyril-gorham-translator/william-r-gorham-an-american-engineer-in-japan/paperback/product-1jprm8.html?page=1&pageSize=4 CHAPTER VII. TOA DENKI /TOA ELECTRIC COMPANY VII.1. TRANSFERRED TO TOKYO After finishing five years at Tobata Foundry, in Taisho 15 (1926) he (Mr. Gorham..cjb) was transferred to Tokyo to become Chief Engineer at the Toa Denki KK. This firm was later to be amalgamated with the Tobata Foundry Company and the Tobata Foundry Company itself was renamed in Showa 10 (1935) as Kokusan Kogyo KK/ National Industrial Production Company. This [Toa Denki KK] was an existing firm that was taken over by Mr. AYUKAWA’s Kyoritsu Kigyo. It was Mr. YAMAMOTO Soji who had taken care of the preliminary investigations [with respect to Mr. Gorham’s transfer]. Not only was the aim to improve the products currently being produced, but also to produce electrical equipment to be used on automobiles sometime in the future. This was the ultimate purpose for which Mr. YAMAMOTO was to take over the management. At the time concerned, this firm [Toa Denki KK] primarily concentrated on electrical communication machinery, but was also building drills, grinders and other electrical tools. The first President was Mr. NERI-I Kikuma, who formerly served as Chief of the Electrical Bureau of the Ministry of Communication. When the management of Toa Denki KK had run into problems, Mr. AYUKAWA stepped in to help them out, after which time Toa Denki KK was to prosper significantly. Although it is understood that this was because management was doing a fine job, everyone realized that the strengths of Mr. Gorham, when added to this played a significant role. (Toa Denki KK was later amalgamated by the Hitachi Seisakusho KK, but the President for many years was Mr. MURAKAMI Shosuke. Mr. Gorham was to help Mr. MURAKAMI cooperate with him fully and establish the foundations of the firm.) Mr. Gorham had already become fully conversant with Japan’s national situation. At the same time, compared to the Tobata Foundry experience, he was restricted very little and was able to exercise his personal methodology with amazing results. The following are the primary accomplishments of Mr. Gorham: the upgrading of the hand-operated telephone exchange to an automated telephone exchange, improvements to the motor drills and motor grinders, and the design and production of air-driven riveting hammers and iron mine rock-crushing machines. In addition, he was to contribute significantly to increases in production and efficiency. Mr. Gorham was well renowned for the breadth and depth of his academic and technical knowledge. During his university days he had graduated with a degree in electrical engineering, thus it goes without saying that his knowledge in this area was extremely deep and he was particularly adept at improving the manufacture of electrically operated tools. As a result, the electrical tools produced by Toa Denki KK were extremely well received and came to be a favorite in the market. In particular, Toa Denki KK’s electric drills and grinders had already established a reputation as the best in Japan, and they continue their reputation to this day under the name of Hitachi drills and grinders. In addition, Mr. Gorham applied himself to the production of electrical equipment for automobiles and built, among other things, an advanced starting motor and ignition coil. As regards the manufacture of electrical equipment for automobiles, his deep knowledge, broad experience and accumulation of many years on the job all tended to contribute to this achievement. There was nothing he did not know about automobiles. Although the gasoline engine was his crowning achievement, electricity was something he learned professionally and he had an established reputation for his knowledge of machinery in general. It was only natural that he would experience brilliant success at Toa Denki KK (Because of Mr. Gorham’s deep devotion to the improvement and production of electrical tools, Japan’s own electrical tools did not suffer any degradation when compared with the best of imported equipment. At the time, they became designated purchase products of the Army and Navy Ministries, as well as the Railroad Ministry. Further, these products were eventually to replace imported products in the general market.) 'FWIW, Carl B.

From my notes on #556 For Sale 14 Jan. 2014 - Craigslist - Bad Rust - in Texas For Sale 25 Dec. 2017 - EBay - Beverly Hills, CA - looks like new floorboards&Frame Rails - bid to $20K - RNM FWIW, Carl B.

Not True - If the customer wanted it, or if the Service Dept suggested it be added with the A/C Kit - the shroud had to be ordered via the Parts Dept. individually. Yes, you had to remove the finger guard to install the shroud.

A friend of mine had been looking for that VIN for 20+ years - but I think he got the VIN wrong because he was looking for a Blue/Blue combination. This one was Gold/Black.. Anyway surprised to see it show up. Yes it looks like a reasonable by at that price...

A good friend of mine got one of the first 1964 GTO’s in Ohio. His Mother owned part of the local Pontiac Dealership. When word of the GTO’s reached the Dealerships, the Sales Manager ordered one for him. 2dr., Post Sedan, White with a Black Vinyl top. Perhaps the best American Car I’ve ever driven. Fastest thing on the street. Five or six months after he got it - the Service Manager ordered a “Performance Package” from Royal Oak Pontiac - made it even faster. But straight line performance wasn’t its only strong suite. It was just as much fun on long road trips, short wheel base and light weight with a stiffer than normal suspension. Very little of the usual American Car body roll. He let me drive it often over the following year - but the 65 or 66 Models came out and that time he got a 421 Catalina 2+2. If I bought a GTO - it would have be the 1964.

Hi Zed Head: First let me say I appreciate the dialog and suggestions. If you are using a Browser on a home computer - for example - you can tell it to open hyper-links in a new Tab or new Window. You can set that feature up in the Preferences and/or by using a command key while clicking on the link. If you copy the URL displayed in that new window/tab - that would be the URL to that individual page. If you are using an iPhone you tap and hold the link, then tell it to open in new window or tab; or if you tap the link with two fingers it should open in a new tab/window - https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-tabs-in-safari-iph3028ebf68/ios Since this is a BAT related thread - user "ar1950" did not seem to have any problems Posting a URL to a single page on ZHome.com Scroll down about 5 comments here https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-datsun-240z-163/

I don't know where you copied that URL from - - When I visit the Page - the URL Shows up as http://zhome.com/History/BlackP.htm on my Browser. (no "www2" and no "com.81") The sight uses Frames - Index on the Left and Subject Matter displayed in the Right. If you want the URL to the specific Subject matter - just open the link in the Index in a new Browser Window and copy the URL from there. As I recall all the links were converted to internal links, to solve the problems we had with http vs https addresses.

Having lived in Spokane, Washington 1969-73 I can assure you it was common practice to run 4 Snow Tires (usually with ice studs) in the Winter months, especially on light weight sports cars. Snow Tires or Tire Chains (on all 4 wheels) were required, if you were to be allowed in any of several mountain passes in Eastern or Western Washington during the winter months. Among sports car enthusiast Pirelli and Semperit winter tires were most popular and broadly available in town. Of course Michelin had great winter tires, but usually their cost was significantly higher.

When we discussed this earlier - Kats and I believed that the North American Test 240Z's were #4 from Aug. and #5 from Sep. One with A/T and the other with 4spd. #6 from Sep. and #7 and #8 from Oct were used for the New Car Shows in North America & Press Relations. FWIW, Carl B.

#1776 had a Date of Manufacture data tag stamped 12/69. So it is a 69 Production Year example. As are all the specific individuals on that list. Correct, not all VIN's below #1776 and above #00500 were 69 Production Year examples - only the specific individual examples on that list have been found to be 69 production year examples at this point. Carl B.

Yes - #1776 in that list - is an HLS30. We have not found any HS30's produced in 1969 still in existence. HS30 00004 was sold in Australia, based on its original engine serial number and the Australian Compliance Tag on the Z - its owner at the time and I believe it was produced in early 1970. FWIW, Carl B.

@Patcon @Namerow Hi Guys, thanks for the kind words and Marry Christmas wishes to you as well. I think this has been a tough year for everyone, but so far we are doing well. Mostly staying home, but did attend Jim Frederick’s Z Mecca Christmas Party earlier this month in Lutz, Florida. Great turn-out with Bob Sharp as an Honored Guest. Florida weather co-operated with a bright sunny day. Stay safe and healthy to enjoy the holidays with your friends and family. Carl B.

There were two different groups of VIN's for Datsun 240Z's produced in 1969. One for the Left Hand Drive models and another for the Right Hand Drive Models; HLS30 and HS30. Both had their own series of chassis serial numbers. Because all new cars offered for sale in the USA were required by Federal Law to have their Date Of Manufacture (DOM) affixed to the car; the Left Hand Drive HLS30's produced in 1969 can be individually identified if their original DOM Data Tags are still on them. It would seem that some 543 240Z'z were completed in 1969. Best guess is that 2 or 3 of them were HS30's with the remainder being HLS30's. The first 13 HLS30's were not sold to the public. Because the units were not completed in perfect serial number order, there are a few with VIN's higher than #543, that were also completed in 1969. (as shown above with #587 being completed in 12/69) http://zhome.com/History/69ZArticle.html FWIW, Carl B.

Thanks- @chaseincats I guess that confirms what I wrote; “I know nothing about the F.I. on the 280Z”. Have to say - even in 1978, I’m surprised they sent the level at 3675ft. - given California is 282ft below sea level in one place and 14,000ft above in others. Perhaps its more an Emission Control thing for Calif.

Air pressure at 14,000 Ft. would be closer to 8.26 psi. Still an L28E ruling at factory spec.'s shouldn't have any problem going up Mt Evans even at 60% power. I've driven a stock 72 240Z up there. Just thinking out loud - I know nothing about the F.I. on the 280Z.... but for some reason I'm thinking the ECU on the 280Z is an analog computer. I'm wondering if that Gold Canister that @chasincats pictured, with the Blue&Black wires - is a sort of altimeter - that outputs an analog signal of varying strength. So it is not a matter of sending ON/OFF signal to the ECU - so much as sending an analog signal of the correct strength to the ECU - to adjust the air/fuel mixture for different altitudes. Like a fuel level sender in the tank, or a temperature gauge. Jumping the wires together - might send the opposite signal needed to the ECU and make things worse at higher altitudes. Does the Factory Service Manual tell you how to test that Gold Canister, or give a signal strength that it should output at Sea Level ?

Thanks to everyone for the help. Especially to @heyitsrama and @jonbill for the detailed analysis and suggested corrective actions. I passed them on to our Sys. Admin. and he was able to implement the cure. 🙂

Hi Guys - I think we have ZHome.com working... If everyone would give it a try - The broken links will be address a bit later - but 95% of the links in the Left Hand Frame should work with either http or https - thanks, Carl http://ZHome.com

Hi Al - Good to hear from you. Yes, its been a while and we’ve had a long journey in the Z Car Community together. Doesn’t seem possible its been 34 years! Unbelievable how this ARPANet /Internet and WorldWideWeb thing as evolved! Someone earlier referred to the Web Page or perhaps me as being a Dinosaur - LOL. I guess he got that right. I do actually think of you, Paul and Stef quite often. You and Stef were both in Grad School when we started this journey - today my Daughter is headed there. For those that don’t know “Pilgrim” aka Al - When the "Z Car List" had to move off of Princeton University’s computer systems - Al worked with a friend at Texas A&M to get us a new Home and keep us going.

@hayitsrama - thanks - PM Sent. Carl

Hi Terrapin @Racer X - thanks for the feedback and help. The fact is "How to join" and "Searchable members list" - - should no longer be on the Site. Thought I had eliminated the links... but obviously had not completely done the job. I'll work on that as I get time. Just as a bit of background: We subscribers to "the Z Car List", an Email Based Z Car Discussion Group started in 1987 - started " the Internet Z Car Club" because at the time vendors offered discounts to Car Club Members. All you needed was a Club Name and your Club Membership Number. So we started a "virtual" club on the Internet. At the time we had somewhere around 12,000 subscribers. As all things Internet and Business evolved, competition for Customers drove most retail prices down and Club Membership Discounts became pretty much a thing of the past. If people shopped on-line they could usually find better prices everywhere. So the real reason and need for the Virtual Club evaporated. Secondly maintaining the Membership Data Base became more and more an issue - as it was usually based on vendor proprietary software - that was or was not supported by all the different Operating Systems on which the Web Site was hosted over the decades. Thirdly the number of volunteers with the software knowledge capable of supporting all this - became fewer and fewer. So today the Internet Z Car Club is truly virtual - it exist only in the minds of its members.

Hi jonbill Thanks for the feedback and help. - - Since you found aktar and ask... "aktar" was Tony Fruzza. He was one of many volunteers that pitched in, devoted his time to help build and keep both the Z Car Home Page and the original "Z Car List" up and running. Since then he has long since moved on (who knows maybe he driving Porsche's now). The Membership Sign up form and data base -as I recall - was a based on a Pearl Script, and as such it required an O/S that included or supported Pearl Scipts. So the form was hosted at mlinks. This was all in the late 80's early 90's and since the beginning both the Web Page and Email list - were moved from one O/S to another and another and another. (IBM Main Frame, DEC/VAX, Univac, Unix, Mac OS-X..). OK - back to the problem - - Interesting thing is - if you go to that Page (links) - and hit the hyper-link back to the ZHome.com sight - at least on my browser (Safari) everything works as it should - everything that is supposed to work -not previously deleted content. That hyper link is "http://www.zhome.com/" This is interesting - as of right now - If I open a new Browser Window - enter just ZHome.com - everything that is supposed to work seems to work. Tried opening an additional Tab in a Browser that was already open and holding several Tabs... and everything on ZHome.com is now working for me. I have not updated nor changed anything. Did all the same using www.ZHome.com and everything is now working. Strange...

Hi Terrapin - thanks for the feedback - in 25 years with the Web Server, I haven't run into this problem. Kind of weird .... all the HTML is the same, the server software is the same for over 2 years now..

Thanks for the feedback - - use this URL http://zhome.com/Racing/Racing.htm When that page comes up - shorten the URL to just http://Zhome.com and enter that - then try the links on the Left Hand frame - - for some reason that works in older versions of Safari ..