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3 hours ago, AZDatsun said:

Just saw this in phx think it’s the 400z it had a front cross bar in the grill area

Great day for hot weather testing.  I see them doing that all the time in Palm Springs where it was only 120º yesterday.

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3 hours ago, Patcon said:

They do the car no favors to wrap it like that!!!

They would just do better to paint it a great color and run it. It looks super bland in the car camo

That's pretty much the point.  🙂  The sticker camo hides exact shapes from the camera lens.  Until they do the production car reveal, every manufacturer uses similar techniques.  

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6 hours ago, Jeff G 78 said:

That's pretty much the point.  🙂  The sticker camo hides exact shapes from the camera lens.  Until they do the production car reveal, every manufacturer uses similar techniques.  

Oh, I know but it just seems sort of silly when we already know what the car is pretty much gonna look like

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2 hours ago, Patcon said:

Oh, I know but it just seems sort of silly when we already know what the car is pretty much gonna look like

I think they want to hide the 370z-ness 😞

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2 minutes ago, 240260280 said:

I think they want to hide the 370z-ness 😞

Yeah, at least the newer Z doesn’t look like a turtle, anymore. :-/

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5 hours ago, Patcon said:

Oh, I know but it just seems sort of silly when we already know what the car is pretty much gonna look like

As an insider that works with camouflaged cars every day, I know it's frustrating to the public to see camo on cars that have had massive ad campaigns already like the Proto Z (I refuse to call it the 400Z as I'm still hoping Nissan calls it the 300Z).  At this point, the production car will certainly be close, but likely different in many small ways when compared to the Proto Z.  One of two outcomes will occur.  Either people will like features of the Proto Z better and complain about how Nissan dumbed it down for production or they will think the production Z looks better and Nissan's big ad campaign will be outdated,  It's a no-win situation, so the best thing to do is hide the final details until it's 100% ready.  The main reason for the ongoing camo though is that pre-production cars are far from perfect.  These cars are not built on the production assembly line and haven't gone through anything close to production quality checks, so if a car "looks" like a production car on the street, people will assume it is and their impression will be severely tarnished if they see poor panel gaps, missing trim, mismatched panel colors or 3D printed parts that aren't quite right.  Anything that's plastic would not yet be grained.  Manufacturers add graining to the tooling after they are sure the plastic parts will not need to change.  In addition, many of these cars started life many, many months ago before the Proto Z reveal, so they never got a real paintjob.  Most get a simple black or white paintjob just to cover the metal so they don't rust - think rattle can.  They were camouflaged when built, so removing the stickers now would not only reveal terrible looking cars, but much of the paint would peel off with the sticker removal.  Depending on the car's intended usage, some parts are never installed and others have been removed or cut up to fit test equipment.  Prototypes are not meant to look good.  They are built for testing.  Some are powertrain calibration, others NVH, Vehicle Dynamics, brakes, etc.  The engineers usually don't see what the production car will truly look like until the public reveal.  We see the same ugly prototypes as the public.

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16 minutes ago, zKars said:

Guess it’s official. 

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/06/2022-nissan-z-to-be-unveiled-in-august-as-chevy-camaro-and-corvette-rival/amp/

“The 2022 Nissan Z sports car will make its official debut at the New York International Auto Show in August, the Japanese automaker confirmed this week.“

I believe August 17 to be exact...Take note ZCON 2021 attendees.

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I think it looks pretty damn good overall.  So.... is it just the "Z"?  I'm so glad they didn't go with the 400Z name as that made zero sense.  I would have been happy with 300Z, but I guess just Z works too.  Hopefully the pricing is where it needs to be to succeed in the market.

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1 minute ago, Jeff G 78 said:

I think it looks pretty damn good overall.  So.... is it just the "Z"?  I'm so glad they didn't go with the 400Z name as that made zero sense.  I would have been happy with 300Z, but I guess just Z works too.  Hopefully the pricing is where it needs to be to succeed in the market.

Based on a hint from Chris Karl, I figured it would be called Z.

Am I the only one who felt they cut the reveal short? They could have shown us more details of the car.

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14 minutes ago, SteveJ said:

Am I the only one who felt they cut the reveal short? They could have shown us more details of the car.

Yeah, I agree. They didn't even pop the hood! Right when they started giving us some specifics, they said goodbye and thanks. I was prepared for it to go a lot longer. Besides, they didn't reveal too much that wasn't know already known, more just confirmed things.

Oh well, seems to be a pretty neat car all the same. Wish the whole instrument cluster was analog, but the voltage, boost and temp. (I think were the three) are better than nothing. Maybe that'll be a dealer option.

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Not sure I like the RPM gauge off to the right in the triple cluster... 

Edit: oh wait, maybe that's just the boost gauge... oh and, a turbo RPM gauge...  nice

analog clock is missing ..  😞 

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I read somewhere (before the reveal), that down the line there ought to be both a Nismo 'Z', and a 'Z' that comes in "heritage" colours, which I imagine will harken back to the 240. The colour options the article says the 'Z' will come in are, in my opinion, a strange choice by Nissan. They just seem too restrictive. Want a red or blue car? Hope you like a black roof. Otherwise, take this deep, muted red colour.  

P.S. It'll be hard for me to call this z the 'Z'. Maybe 'the new Z', but not just z. 

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40 minutes ago, psdenno said:

If I was 24 again, I'd be standing in line, checkbook in hand.  However, at my current age, I think it would be easier to get out of Afghanistan than it would be to get out of the driver's seat of the new Z.  I'll stick with my '71.  😎

My DD 911 is that way.  I look like an old man every time I get out of it.  I usually have a 20 lb. backpack, keys, sunglasses, mask, etc. so I struggle to stand up.  🙂

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In the presentation, Mr Ashwani Gupta (Nissan's 'Chief Operating Officer', no less) repeats the lie that the Z's debut was on 22nd October 1969 at the Pierre Hotel in New York, with the 'Datsun 240Z'. 

The people writing the scripts for these sock puppets appear to have Googled Zhome.com...

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13 hours ago, Mike said:

Not sure I like the RPM gauge off to the right in the triple cluster... 

Edit: oh wait, maybe that's just the boost gauge... oh and, a turbo RPM gauge...  nice

analog clock is missing ..  😞 

I'll bet the clock on on the radio display.

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