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Mint '71 240Z - More Fun Coming to BaT

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    On 2/8/2020 at 5:19 AM, christoffel said:

    #57 was Canadian and had no airpump.

    And there where at least 2 types of hoods, before the reinforced one came

    Can you tell us about the two types of hoods? Pics? Thank you!

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    Here are a couple of old threads discussing early hoods, with pictures of the two early and later types.

     

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    Look guys, I see people going off the rails talking about Mr K. This not the thread. The topic is the Mint 240Z. Let's stay on topic,  shall we? 

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    I can’t stop myself to post this , I found the green car has the basements  for the sun visors . I have been wanting to know when our cars have got the basement . 

    My 03/1970 car doesn’t have it , according to the parts catalog , our cars appeared that no basement with the sun visors until the third revision of the catalog ( June 1970) issued .

    The second revision was issued March 1970 , so the change was made in between these two periods . April ? May ? 
     

    This green car tells us at least in May 1970 our cars have the basement with the sun visors. 
     

    Kats

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    Great !! You have a projector machine to view your “state of the art “ parts catalog , do you ? Nice collection!

    Kats

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    Hey thanks, Kats.  I have never noticed that before.

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    Banzai Motorworks 1971 240 reproduction on a particularly nice example.

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    I'm still trying to decide if this decal belongs on my 1969 builds.

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    I will put this one on my 69’s. These stickers are only on US HSL, not on EU. These labels have no Japanese signs on it, pure English. So I truly believe they were added to the cars in North Amerca. 

    On this one is no year, so you could make an assumtion this is the first one. It is on #672
     

     

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    6 hours ago, christoffel said:

    These stickers are only on US HSL, not on EU. These labels have no Japanese signs on it, pure English. So I truly believe they were added to the cars in North Amerca. 

    You think they were added in America because they have no Japanese writing on them? Rhetorical question: Does that belief hold true with other stickers/labels or tags on the cars?  

    How about where the stickers were printed? You think Nissan would print the stickers in Japan and then send them to the USA to be affixed to cars already fitted with the air pumps? Why could they not just affix them to the appropriate cars in Japan? Or do you think the stickers were printed in the USA?

    I'm not buying it. If the stickers were applied in the USA (where? port of entry?) I reckon we would see all sorts of anomalies in positioning and application, but as far as I am aware we don't. So I say more likely affixed - to appropriate cars - at Nissan Shatai in Hiratsuka.

    7 hours ago, 240260280 said:

    I think this is ~ HLS30-0003 and it has no sticker...

    It also has other peculiarities that make its status as a content examplar slightly rocky. Will you be citing it as proof that early HLS30-prefixed cars didn't have radios or clocks? The Yuasa battery and splash pan might get you "not constructive" downvote on BaT should you bring them to the attention of the Experten level portfolio investors over there. "TEHO".

    As I've pointed out before, the content of the early HLS30Us was clearly somewhat fluid so such a very early example - not sold to the general public and used by Nissan to make the relevant technical servicing publications - is not necessarily what we should use to judge whether what was coming down the actual production line some weeks or months later is 'correct' or not.  

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    I finally had a chance to dig through the archives for those sound deadener part numbers. they are, or were, G5930-89904 and G5930-89902. I last bought any 9/07. I can't remember which is thicker (cargo area)

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    6 hours ago, HS30-H said:

    You think they were added in America because they have no Japanese writing on them? Rhetorical question: Does that belief hold true with other stickers/labels or tags on the cars?  

    How about where the stickers were printed? You think Nissan would print the stickers in Japan and then send them to the USA to be affixed to cars already fitted with the air pumps? Why could they not just affix them to the appropriate cars in Japan? Or do you think the stickers were printed in the USA?

    I'm not buying it. If the stickers were applied in the USA (where? port of entry?) I reckon we would see all sorts of anomalies in positioning and application, but as far as I am aware we don't. So I say more likely affixed - to appropriate cars - at Nissan Shatai in Hiratsuka.

    It also has other peculiarities that make its status as a content examplar slightly rocky. Will you be citing it as proof that early HLS30-prefixed cars didn't have radios or clocks? The Yuasa battery and splash pan might get you "not constructive" downvote on BaT should you bring them to the attention of the Experten level portfolio investors over there. "TEHO".

    As I've pointed out before, the content of the early HLS30Us was clearly somewhat fluid so such a very early example - not sold to the general public and used by Nissan to make the relevant technical servicing publications - is not necessarily what we should use to judge whether what was coming down the actual production line some weeks or months later is 'correct' or not.  

    Hello Alan, It are pure assumptions from me. I thought that could be the case because it is a pure North American issue.   For the reasons you are telling I assume (again) that HLS30-00003 is not the right car to use as an example .

    I took apart 6 cars between #23 and #305, and than you have a reasonable amount of cars to conclude what should be origina or not. It is really interesting to see how many changes there were in the first months. When there are 2 different parts on these cars, most of the time the leighter part is the earliest part. Being able to compare makes it more easy to decide what would have been orignal.  A rare part that is different are the knuckle arms, They have the 12 mm ball joint shaft. The left ones are mostly still there but some of the right ones were missing. And took some time to find them.

    And about the the emission decal, I have one a very original HLS30-00672 with clear glass all around and it has a decall without date. So again an assumption of me that that could be the first type of decal.  Only could find it on #184 but couldn/t read it anymore

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    I think it's important to remember that all of the Datsun models - Z, 510, 1200, 521 and Roadster - imported to the US during the period being discussed had information decals. I can assure you they were not added at the dealers. That would leave Port of Entry. Again, I can assure you that there were no facilities at the US ports that could have handled such an operation.  

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    10 hours ago, zspert said:

    I finally had a chance to dig through the archives for those sound deadener part numbers. they are, or were, G5930-89904 and G5930-89902. I last bought any 9/07. I can't remember which is thicker (cargo area)

    89902 is for the floor and 89904 is for the "package tray".  Both still available.

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    Agreed that the stickers were factory applied.  The market designation was part of the build sheet, no?

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