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This organization posted to the Datsun 240Z Classifieds page on FB yesterday.  Does anyone have experience with their products?  In addition to the pictured stainless steel 240Z bumpers with rubber strips, they also offer the bumper without rubber (and the holes) per an email exchange I had with them.  Looking for some feedback on quality and fit.

Thanks,

Jim

http://bumperautomobile.com/

 

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I have these

https://groupharrington.com/product/datsun-240z-and-260z-bumpers/

and they were terrific. Still look great. They were being manufactured in either Thialand or Vietnam IIRC so maybe these from bumperauto are from the same place?

Just looked closer, the rear is a three piece like the stocker, the groupharrington rear is one piece.  What price did they quote? The GH is on sale for 816 brit pounds.

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My two cents for what its worth. I purchased a set of stainless steel (Harrington) for my 72 without holes. I was happy for about a year and then found that they were subject to scratching and minor scrapes. Polishing was not easy and expensive to send out to professionals. I finally gave up and bit the bullet to have a set chromed. So much less upkeep and better looking.

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Has anyone found a good source for Re-chroming that is not out of the world expensive?  I have two sets I'd like to get done.  I found only one place in FL that would do it and it was out of the world expensive from memory.

I just called the only place I know, front bumper is $400, rear is $600 ( charge for each piece) Bumperettes are $110 each!

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Has anyone tried a magnet on these SS bumpers? I'd bet one would stick to the Vietnamese bumpers.

I buy a lot of SS bolts and every one from Lowes/China will attract to a magnet. Fastenal is my go to now, a few extra miles but true stainless.

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1 hour ago, JSM said:

Has anyone found a good source for Re-chroming that is not out of the world expensive?  I have two sets I'd like to get done.  I found only one place in FL that would do it and it was out of the world expensive from memory.

I just called the only place I know, front bumper is $400, rear is $600 ( charge for each piece) Bumperettes are $110 each!

Finding a shop to rechrome bumpers is an adventure.  Not many shops left and prices reflect the lack of competition.  Years ago, I had the bumpers on my Avanti rechromed and took them around to a few shops to get estimates.  The first question was generally, "What car is that from?" like it would make a difference other than establishing rarity and jacking the price accordingly.  Then would come the lecture on their chrome versus the other guy's.

I ended up at Verne's in Los Angeles (now in Gardena https://www.yelp.com/biz/vernes-chrome-plating-gardena )

They did a great job..  When I walked in with the bumper, the counter guy said, "I see you have an Avanti.".  Depending on where you look for reviews, they now have a mixed bag, so not sure how their current work and prices are.  They used to have classic car and motorcycle parts shipped in from all over for rechroming.

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3 minutes ago, psdenno said:

Finding a shop to rechrome bumpers is an adventure.  Not many shops left and prices reflect the lack of competition.  Years ago, I had the bumpers on my Avanti rechromed and took them around to a few shops to get estimates.  The first question was generally, "What car is that from?" like it would make a difference other than establishing rarity and jacking the price accordingly.  Then would come the lecture on their chrome versus the other guy's.

I ended up at Verne's in Los Angeles (now in Gardena https://www.yelp.com/biz/vernes-chrome-plating-gardena )

They did a great job..  When I walked in with the bumper, the counter guy said, "I see you have an Avanti.".  Depending on where you look for reviews, they now have a mixed bag, so not sure how their current work and prices are.  They used to have classic car and motorcycle parts shipped in from all over for rechroming.

Dennis

 

At least you have options.  I called several places today for fun in FL and all closed.  The shops open, didn't do chroming and said call the place I already had.  The few folks I talked to said they were the best to go to, but also the most expensive.

It was interesting when I called the first shop.  She said, most have gone out of business due to a lack of demand, EPA regulations and lack of youth willing to learn the trade.  She said almost all of her employees are in their 50's.

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8 hours ago, siteunseen said:

I buy a lot of SS bolts and every one from Lowes/China will attract to a magnet. Fastenal is my go to now, a few extra miles but true stainless.

Just because it's magnetic, doesn't mean it isn't stainless.  Some stainless is magnetic, and some is not. I don't remember the grade numbers offhand, but I suspect it comes down to cost and workability. The magnetic grades are easier to work with and probably cheaper. But the non-magnetic grades usually have better corrosion resistance. Some of them work harden just by looking at them wrong though and are a pain to form.

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That's what I'm saying, less words though. 

I go to scrap yards with worn out restaurant equipment. If a magnet sticks it's priced out as steel.

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3 hours ago, siteunseen said:

That's what I'm saying, less words though. 

That usually doesn't work out for me.  LOL   I do try though!

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Amazingly, there is a chrome shop 6 miles away from me in Lincoln,  Whitworx Fine Metal Finishing.  Been in business for 40 years.  Around $1000 for both bumpers.

Zup had his 240 bumpers done there 3 years ago,  look great & he has been happy with them.

The price make those reproductions look very attractive though.

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On 5/23/2018 at 2:38 PM, JSM said:

At least you have options.  I called several places today for fun in FL and all closed.  The shops open, didn't do chroming and said call the place I already had.  The few folks I talked to said they were the best to go to, but also the most expensive.

It was interesting when I called the first shop.  She said, most have gone out of business due to a lack of demand, EPA regulations and lack of youth willing to learn the trade.  She said almost all of her employees are in their 50's.

SPACE COAST PLATING Melbourne Florida. They did pretty good work on my bumpers 15 years ago and the finish is still quality.

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1 hour ago, esmit208 said:

SPACE COAST PLATING Melbourne Florida. They did pretty good work on my bumpers 15 years ago and the finish is still quality.

Yep, they seem to be the only ones around.  $$$ was the only issue in my mind.

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This made me go dig up my invoice from Queen City Plating. Last year they did both of my bumpers that does not have any holes and were already straight requiring no repairs.

This shops work can often be found at Pebble Beach.

I understood I would be paying for the work quality.

They are still in business but you could not turn in work now and expect it back before September.

I can recommend them without hesitation.

 

 

 

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I seem to recall one of the aftermarket rear bumpers had an issue where some said the arc of the center section did not have

enough curvature and came too close or hit the rear body valence. That was supposed to be retooled and corrected.

I don't see anyone mention that now though.

 

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As a source for new bumpers don't forget Futofab, http://www.futofab.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=131&Itemid=118#a_frontb

New metal, perfect chrome, no holes, all metric fittings and they fit well. I'm very happy with mine, $360 USD a piece.

 

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8 hours ago, Lumens said:

I seem to recall one of the aftermarket rear bumpers had an issue where some said the arc of the center section did not have

enough curvature and came too close or hit the rear body valence. That was supposed to be retooled and corrected.

I don't see anyone mention that now though.

 

I had previously purchased a rear bumper from Futofab as @grannyknot mentions.  It had two fitment problems - the arc of the center section was too shallow and hit the body and the mounting point on the right side did not line up with the hole in the body.  I contacted Dave Patton and he asked me to shoot a set of measurements of the arc across the rear panel and my OE bumper (now painted).  I returned the bumper and Dave gave me a full refund, including shipping.  He also took measurements of early cars available to him and fed the info back to mfrs.  He initially expected the revised bumper to be available last fall and later by the first of this year.  That has not happened and Dave told me to keep checking his site as it shows the bumpers to be on backorder, arrival TBD.   The folks in Vietnam say they have quick delivery (~10 days) so I'll probably pull the trigger on one of theirs.  I'll share results when I get the unit.

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4 hours ago, jfa.series1 said:

I had previously purchased a rear bumper from Futofab as @grannyknot mentions.  It had two fitment problems - the arc of the center section was too shallow and hit the body and the mounting point on the right side did not line up with the hole in the body.  I contacted Dave Patton and he asked me to shoot a set of measurements of the arc across the rear panel and my OE bumper (now painted).  I returned the bumper and Dave gave me a full refund, including shipping.  He also took measurements of early cars available to him and fed the info back to mfrs.  He initially expected the revised bumper to be available last fall and later by the first of this year.  That has not happened and Dave told me to keep checking his site as it shows the bumpers to be on backorder, arrival TBD.   The folks in Vietnam say they have quick delivery (~10 days) so I'll probably pull the trigger on one of theirs.  I'll share results when I get the unit.

Jim,

It's a shame the quality control hasn't ironed out all the problems before they started marketing them. Fuotfab was/is a good alternative. The harringtons are very good, but pricy.

 I will watch your progress with the vietnam bumpers with much interest.

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On ‎5‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 9:11 PM, Travel'n Man said:

Try Tri County Plating in Elizabethton Tenn. Superior Job


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Thanks I called today. Front is $400, rear is $450.  Bumperettes are $75 each.  With shipping to and from it may be easier to stay local.

I did see the local places (Space Coast Platting) work today from a Datsun Roadster enthusiast.  It was very nice quality.   I just may wait to do any small stuff as shipping it would be cheaper.

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9 hours ago, jfa.series1 said:

It had two fitment problems - the arc of the center section was too shallow and hit the body and the mounting point on the right side did not line up with the hole in the body.  I contacted Dave Patton and he asked me to shoot a set of measurements of the arc across the rear panel and my OE bumper (now painted). 

I just went out and checked my rear bumper, I have a 1/4" gap at the center between the bumper and back of the car and 1/2" gap just before the bumper bends around the sides of the car. So I guess mine were part of that same lot, never would have noticed it otherwise.

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