Everything posted by kats
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Z's on BAT and other places collection
Thanks Alan, I too thought people in the US & Canada could have ordered STD gear ratio FS5C71A and FS5C71B but they couldn’t. The only and reliable source of information was Datsun Competition parts catalog. If they had reached out to look up parts catalog other than their territory, they would have known to order properly. This topic reminds me that I have seen other examples of US 1972-73 cars fitted with an E4100 shaft mated with a 71A, now I see why. Kats
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Z's on BAT and other places collection
Thanks Carl, now I understand why the car ended up being wrongly fitted with E4100 shaft. And, the mechanic had to order many assorted parts to get it back to STD gear set as 32010-E4151. What a waste! It’s all because of the Datsun competition parts catalog which wrongly listed parts numbers. Or those numbers are not wrong, just lacking of well cared about information, and like you said, unfortunately the timing was not good. From September 1971 the rear differential location was put 35mm backwards but when people in America saw the catalog, there is only E4100, See, this is why I call it is complicated about transmission and propeller shaft matching even for Nissan service man. By the way, the car in question must have a wider cut out on the tunnel for F4W71B, but this FS5C71A originally requires shorter cut out and rubber boot just like F4W71A. Remember, from 09/71 to 01/72 Nissan Shatai still made shorter cut out on the center tunnel just for FS5C71A, at that time their majority was F4W71B though. Kats
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Z's on BAT and other places collection
That car is super clean and preserved condition. Time capsule! Only thing I would change would be the propeller shaft which is incorrectly applied to the car. The spline is exposed from the front piece of the shaft, which is not good. From Sep 1971 it was extended 35mm to cope with the new rear differential location. The part number E4100 was replaced by E8700. It’s very complicated even for Nissan parts center service man. I wrote memo to avoid making mistakes when I order parts for my cars. Hope this helps someone. Kats
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Thank you Patcon, and Carl. Kurosawa san was born in 1940, He still drives his cars including a Honda NSX! I wish everyone’s happiness and good health for the new year. Kats
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Happy new year! My hero, Mr. Kurosawa, 1969 Japan Grand Prix winner and me at the Suzuka circuit. Kats
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Here are some refreshments why Z432. Please note the inner rear gate weather strip is NOS the earliest version. It is now a bit harder than when it was newly delivered but the rear gate can close almost perfectly. Probably after passing a few years the rubber will get used to cope with the rear gate more. Merry Christmas Kats
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Hi, I have worked some minor things for mirrors, horns etc. Fairlady Z series has mirrors on the front fenders and the way they mount is completely different from the one for the US. Mirrors have to be flexible when they hit something. The horn, the Higher tone has “H” and te lower tone has “L” shown on the bracket. You see S12, I am sure S means 1969, 12 means December. It makes sense to my 01/1970 Z432. My two 03/1970 cars have T2, indicating 1970 February. Also my 1972 June 240ZG has V6, The rules seemed to apply for all of my cars. Kats
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My two swiss S30Z Fairlady Restoration build thread
Wonderful stuff you have obtained, I envy you! In addition I have never seen tools boards, wall mounted tools are so cool. Thank you for your gift “tools manual” which is replicated nicely, I think I have the lost pages in digital format when one of my friend on facebook kindly gave me. So we can share it. Kats
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My two swiss S30Z Fairlady Restoration build thread
I am glad that you enjoyed the trip in Japan. I didn’t know you took the Nissan paper to your home! I could give you 10 more papers. Every time I bring my cars to Nissan they put the paper on the driver seat floor. The paper is durable and good for oil drops, water etc. I visited your own website, the articles of the trip is so nice! It brings back so many good memories of our S30.world Japan Expedition. Kats
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New, short video of my restored 240Z
It’s a great video! Kats
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SN 00042 Restoration; The Older Twin
Hi, I don’t know much about originals of our cars, but if this helps for your reference that would be nice. The L20A is for a Skyline GT but it can be a useful reference. The Kaku -U crew inspecting the cylinder head that was a screen shot from the video of 1969 US & CANADA test drive. Kats
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Z's on BAT and other places collection
Hello, everyone. I am also a member of S30 World. I’m very happy to be a member of the team. Thank you Carl. Carl recommended me to Chris’s big project. In addition, I definitely thank Alan for promising to join the team because I am a member. Chris visited my house in 2018. I was very impressed that he was very sincere about all the variations of our car. And his dream was to establish and enrich the museum with cars that have received great restoration work. It’s all because of the Classic Zcar Club. We have been learning a lot from the people here. I’m making a lot of friends here. We are all connected in a simple way. Z. We know that there are no cars that have been restored 100% correctly. The S30 World is trying to restore the car close to 100% correct. Chris’s great passion is outstanding. Many enthusiasts have been involved in his project. It’s like magnets on the fridge. I think all the posts here are worth reading to make our beloved cars more beautiful. I think people who post here are like magnets too. As Florian said, we are simple. We want to enjoy the S30 more and spread the joy of our cars to the world. If you see the car at the S30 World Museum, you will surely like it. We need to correct the “100% correct” word into the appropriate word. But all the black painted floors and other little things are repaired in good faith, so even if we don’t fix it, you’ll like it. Oh, stay tune, I will report an interesting things regarding S30 World soon. Kats
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Traveling to Japan — any friends, dealers, part recommendations?
Wow! Let’s meet in Tokyo some time ! Kats
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Hi, I did some work refreshing for metal headlight bowl case of my Z432. In Japan, headlights case has a note “右配光” (Aiming to the right) and “L o R.” Is that its lens cut different? I have a new set of the light bowl but I don’t want to use it because new replacements from Nissan has different shape of the plastic screw cover.Original is also a see through plastic but new one is white. So I cleaned it and painted it with hand written “右配光 R(L)” “12V” Please note earlier type doesn’t have tiny holes for retaining the rubber seal to the metal bowl. Kats
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Traveling to Japan — any friends, dealers, part recommendations?
I am so sorry that I didn’t know I was mentioned here. Goldair, did you enjoyed your trip in Japan? To find some right places for enthusiasts like you and us is a bit difficult. Yes Nissan Yokohama HQ is the good to start, easy access and a lot of cars on the display, with Starbucks. Visiting popular vintage car shop or parts vender is also nice, if you are lucky you will be able to see a car restoration in progress. I don’t want people to rush into a restoration shop but if someone serious let me know. A Z432-R is now on the zig for its restoration. siteunseen, I didn’t know there is a vending machine other than beverage, Cup noodle. I wish Nissan could place small parts vending machines all over the country! Kats
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Discover various "date",use cross-reference method
Hi, Have we discussed this before? The date code appeared on the MIYAMOTO horn. 01/70 Z432 has S 12, 03/70 240Z has T2 06/72 240ZG has V6 So I read it like this, S 12 means 1969 December T2 means 1970 February, V6 means 1972 June. How about yours? Kats
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Options for series 1 dashboard area above hazard switch?
Hi! Additional info, our cars naturally have power source for the fog lights in the wiring harness. Kats
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My two swiss S30Z Fairlady Restoration build thread
Hi Nils, you are the only one who got the films except me, I too digitized them all, I can spend all day just watching them. So interesting. You can see some tiny tiny details which we have never seen before. Enjoy! Kats
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Z's on BAT and other places collection
Hi, I think that car HS30-00004 is now needing to be determined 69 or 70 for the auction. It is very difficult to nail down “at or before December 31st 1969” or “at or later January 1st 1970.” Usually we don’t care about cars made December or January, or February etc. However the car in question needs to be determined “when” because of reflecting sales price. People don’t think 69 and 70 are in the same price range. Here in Japan we don’t really care about year. We care about Fairlady Z or ZL, Z432-R or Z432, Fairlady 240Z or 240ZL, Fairlady 240ZG. Two things make it difficult, #1 The car doesn’t have manufacturer date plaque like US & Canada S30. So the car need to show exact date. The date stamped on the parts. And the latest stamp among them has to be found. #2 How can we tell parts in the car are original? If you take it sincerely, you will deeply look at them and realize it’s not easy to tell. Here is a very good example (it is not a 69 car though ), a slip which came with the owners manual & the warranty book. I used to own this car, 12/71 orange automatic which is now resides in Chris’s museum in Netherlands. You see “平〜本“ , “date 12-9” on the slip. This means, the car delivered from 平塚工場 Hiratsuka plant to 本牧埠頭 Honmoku pier on December 9th. Not every car has this slip but if your car has this slip, it clearly indicates that your car delivered at the date described from the Nissan Shatai Hiratsuka plant. Of course the date when the car crossed the finish line might be different in some cases from the date of delivery but, we think naturally that they must have not wanted their complete cars stuck in the facility. So I guess cars were delivered almost the same date. And this car has the stamp on the steering horn contact plate which indicates 46. 12. *. It is obvious that the contact plate was stamped on December 1971, not sure for date but we can see there could be maximum 9 days between the slip and the plate. That is why I have been advocating the method of the stamp on the contact plate is useful to imagine “when”. It would tell us very close date when cars delivered from Nissan Shatai. I am curious to see if the green monster BAT 240Z has the date stamp on the contact plate. Because the car still has the slip “date 5-27”. Kats
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production number for 1969
Thank you Alan, your explanation gives me more understandings. I can picture when they were pressing the sheet metal. Yes I remember when we had chat with Miyazaki san. It was like we were two students listening to Miyazaki san’s class. We can’t miss every little words coming from his mouth! Kats
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Finally found a 69 240z, #51 Time to finish a 30 year multiple owner restoration.
This is so beautiful!! I put some thoughts here, Thank you dspillman, your car keeps me interested in the early production cars. The dents on the rear floor pushed upward from underneath of the floor, that is the good signature of an early car. Kats
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production number for 1969
Hi, this old thread still needs update! Thank you dspillman, your beautiful HLS30-00051 showing some interesting facts. I have been talking about dents on the floor with Chris in Netherlands(S30WORLD), he has tremendous experiences of early cars. He taught me the difference. Really early cars have dents upward! I see the dents on the rear floor of HLS30-00051 were pushed upward from underneath of the floor. On the other hand, PS30-00028, 00047 have the dents pushed downward like later cars. I came to conclusion that Z432 was not many in October 1969. Total 72 Z432 including some Z432R were made in 1969. Most of them must have been made in November and December 1969. Remember the volume of production for export 240Z in December significantly lower than previous month. Probably the test reports from the US&Canada might have affected it. When the line workers suddenly became had nothing to do, they might have found ‘it’s time to make domestic S30 cars!’ So now I am clear why PS30-00028 has the bracket for the master vac hose unlike other really low chassis number cars. I guess it like this, S30-00028 & HLS30-00028 must have been made in October 1969.(can’t tell which one is earlier though) PS30-00028 must have been made in November or December 1969. HS30-00028 must have been made in middle of 1970. This is so interesting to me! I am still thrilled finding and learning new things here, thank you everyone! Kats PS, Mr.Miyazaki (engineer of development team of S30) said that difference seen on the dents might have been related that transition of the huge metal press machine occurred in Nissan. Mr.Miyazaki said ‘First, Nissan pressed the steel panels for S30 cars, soon they let Nissan Shatai pressed the steel panels. The press machine of Nissan was a lot huge than the one in Nissan Shatai. I can’t remember when but the transition was made in really early days’
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Finally found a 69 240z, #51 Time to finish a 30 year multiple owner restoration.
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Finally found a 69 240z, #51 Time to finish a 30 year multiple owner restoration.
Looks like O A A, 1969 January 1st? Or O I A, 1969 August 1st? We talked about it here,
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Finally found a 69 240z, #51 Time to finish a 30 year multiple owner restoration.
This picture reminds me that my Z432 has interesting spot welding. The welder might have been ‘on the job training’ I am sure! PS30-00087 (mine is 00088) has perfect welding for both strut towers, I checked it before. Moreover, my Z432’s left strut tower has perfect welding. Quality control must have been a top issue always, workers at Nissan Shatai became getting better and better then finally reached 6000 S30 cars per month of production in late 1971. Enigines too, according to Nissan 40th Anniversary book (published by Nissan) it says after 1972 assembly line for engine head was fully automated to achieve more accuracy and efficiency. L-series was mass production model of course. Kats