1971 United Kingdom market HS30 'Datsun 240Z' with low recorded mileage.

The usual inaccurate salesman's flimflam in the Bonhams write-up, but a nice car:

https://carsonline.bonhams.com/en/listings/datsun/240z/62327cfd-fa98-45e5-9035-b38d20db87e2

Are these turn signals normal? They look pretty weird. Other markets got the inset signals?

Yes, normal for areas of Europe, possibly all of Europe

The integral lower turn signals are too low to meet regs at the time. So the left and right valance have impressions but no holes and the signals are moved to the bumper

6 hours ago, Zed Head said:

Are these turn signals normal? They look pretty weird.

In 1991 when i was restoring a 240z and still in 1998 these were standard as the hight of the usa indicators was to low..

After 2005 or so the rules changed and the usa indicators are allowed now in the Netherlands. (and elswhere?)

What i found strange is that the torque in english is not in Newton meters (Nm) but in caveman lb/ft ?? HUH?? 😂

7 hours ago, Zed Head said:

Are these turn signals normal? They look pretty weird. Other markets got the inset signals?

Nissan were caught out by changes to motor vehicle 'Construction & Use' regulations with regard to lighting for 1971-up in several European markets. Height from road level was particularly difficult to solve. The regulations even required changes to the illumination of the rear license plate.

Of course such regulations applied to NEW cars and many private owners took the opportunity to move these aesthetically unpleasant front turn signals to a position UNDER the front bumper, or - even better - to revert to the configuration that the gods originally intended...

25 minutes ago, dutchzcarguy said:

What i found strange is that the torque in english is not in Newton meters (Nm) but in caveman lb/ft ?? HUH?? 😂

A legacy of precedence. You may have heard of Mr James Watt? He found it necessary to use a unit of measurement in order to compare the power of steam engines to that of working horses. Of course he used the IMPERIAL system as METRIC horsepower didn't exist at that point, the Industrial Revolution not being a Continental phenomenon...

You may also have heard of Sir Isaac NEWTON? That's him in your Nm measurement.

(Posted from The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, a small place off the coast of mainland Europe which used to rule much of the world for a while... LOL)

Interesting that the 1978 260Z, U.K. version shipped to Australia, referenced a few posts back also has the bumper mounter signals even though the grill with the signals inset was introduced in 1975 in the 280Z. I guess that Nissan had a good thing going and just let it ride. Or maybe the big bumper grill didn't work with the small bumper. Or the new signals were still too hard to see. The height seems right.

One the "The 240Z Guild" cars is up on BaT again.

It was sold on BaT in 2017 by The Guild then "reacquired" by The Guild in early 2019 then sold on BaT again in 2019. Now it's up on BaT again.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-datsun-240z-29/ $26,500

https://bringatrailer.com/2018/01/13/bat-auction-success-story-regrets-reconciled-with-purchase-of-1972-datsun-240z/ Success story

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-datsun-240z-108/ $50,000

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-datsun-240z-362/

5 minutes ago, Zed Head said:

One the "The 240Z Guild" cars is up on BaT again.

It was sold on BaT in 2017 by The Guild then "reacquired" by The Guild in early 2019 then sold on BaT again in 2019. Now it's up on BaT again.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-datsun-240z-29/ $26,500

https://bringatrailer.com/2018/01/13/bat-auction-success-story-regrets-reconciled-with-purchase-of-1972-datsun-240z/ Success story

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-datsun-240z-108/ $50,000

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-datsun-240z-362/

Talk about incestuous marketing!

And BAT doesn't seem to mind the jail time issue!!

5 hours ago, Zed Head said:

One the "The 240Z Guild" cars is up on BaT again.

Well apparently bypassing the filter and sucking dirty air into the clean side of the air filter is a thing. Wonder how long THAT engine has been breathing dirty air.

Also a whole bunch of hokey-ness going on here. ☺️ Hahaha!! :

Darn it, you locked in my grammar error. One the.

It has the same mileage now as when it had dual filters. That's good, for the engine.