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1970 240Z 3/70 HLS3002207 2nd owner owned 49 years on BAT

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Beautiful example and long term ownership. In my humble opinion this would be worth more than one of those VZ cars. It's only original once!

FWIW, I am fairly certain this was on craigslist (Dallas) within the last year or two. My guess is that it will go to a new home at the end of the auction.

Good luck to all bidders!

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What a lovely car!  It needs a new interior, gaskets, and I think that original paint job could be preserved.  Might be tough to match the paint in spots, but in all honesty, it needs a whole paint job.  Depends on what you want from the car.  Fix the seats and it looks like it would be a nice driver / conversation piece.

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On 7/2/2020 at 7:03 AM, hiyabrad said:

One interesting note, it has the original coil

My feb '71, 240z has the same coil.  still working now for 49 years.. 

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I really like this 240Z!  I like how original the car is including its original paint and most everything else.  In fact, I liked it enough to place a bid on the car earlier this afternoon. I will bid a little higher, but that may not be enough to win this '70 Series I car.  

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Posted (edited)

The place that rebuilt the engine was still around three years ago.  Not many posts, looks like they got bored with Facebook. Might still be a going concern.

https://www.facebook.com/RisingSunPerformance/

http://sehlers.tripod.com/risingsun.html/

Edit - I added this earlier but it didn't stick for some reason.  They're still around.

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I'll be surprised if it doesn't double from here. Maybe even up to the 50k range

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1 hour ago, Patcon said:

I'll be surprised if it doesn't double from here. Maybe even up to the 50k range

Do you think it will go for that much?  I realize that it has a relatively low VIN at 2207 and has its original matching numbers engine, a 49-year history with the second owner of the car, documentation and  the seller states that the car has its original paint, but $30k-plus?  Now I know why Siteunseen laughed!  As the old saying goes, I guess you can't blame a guy for trying ? 

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On 7/2/2020 at 7:03 AM, hiyabrad said:

It's a bit strange.. on the big third pic on the site (the big pic's)  i can see clearly over(?) 12 ! dents alone in the left door! On pic no: 27 or 28 from the small pic's i can see with great difficulty 1 or 2.. ?   Are those little pics from many years ago or what?

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8 hours ago, lonetreesteve said:

Do you think it will go for that much?  I realize that it has a relatively low VIN at 2207 and has its original matching numbers engine, a 49-year history with the second owner of the car, documentation and  the seller states that the car has its original paint, but $30k-plus?  Now I know why Siteunseen laughed!  As the old saying goes, I guess you can't blame a guy for trying ? 

Yes, probably.  I am probably low. I have been on n.v the last few examples like this

 

As for the dents, I would get a good paintless dent repair guy to go over the whole car. If I thought the car would age ok as is, I might leave it original and patina'd

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The car sold yesterday afternoon for $43.5k. I really loved this car and I bid up to $36,240.00 which was my budget when you factor in BaT's buyer's fee, transportation costs, Colorado sales taxes, etc. To be honest, I don't think the car is worth $43.5k-plus. I also think that since the auction really heated up towards the end (like a lot of them do) the winning bidder probably paid more than he originally intended to. I would be curious to see what the winning bidder's plans are for the car: Stay with the original paint and have a professional remove the dings and match the original paint and blend or do a complete restoration?    

What would your preference be if you won the auction? 

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 I vote for original paint and fix the dings. It's identical to my first Z. Sigh.

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In the current market I would say that number seems inline with other recent sales. So more than double where it was at but some less than 50k

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If it were mine to own I would preserve the car and repair/replace what it needs. There is not anything glaringly wrong with the car as it sits. I would rather have a 240z like this than one of the VZ cars. As I pointed out on BaT the new owner previously purchased a 3/70 240z about 5 months ago and the two cars are only 170 units apart from each other. Hopefully its new owner will cherish it and preserve it in the same vein as the 2nd owner.

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I honestly don’t know why anyone would want to restore this one. As people have already mentioned, it’s only original once. I would pdr what I can and rock it from there. It already has some flaws, so you don’t have to get anxiety over taking her out for a spin, but presents itself well enough that most people wouldn’t believe it hadn’t been restored yet. I think it looks amazing as a 50 year old driver. Sure you can find a few low mileage, near flawless all original examples from cars that lived most of their lives in the garage, but this z was actually driven (for the most part) and wears very few battle scars from it. If I was in a position to buy these cars that pop up on BAT, I would’ve gladly paid more for this one than the Orange 240z that sold just before it. How many 240Zs can say they’re still wearing their original Nissan skin and look that good?

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13 hours ago, lonetreesteve said:

The car sold yesterday afternoon for $43.5k. I really loved this car and I bid up to $36,240.00 which was my budget when you factor in BaT's buyer's fee, transportation costs, Colorado sales taxes, etc. To be honest, I don't think the car is worth $43.5k-plus. I also think that since the auction really heated up towards the end (like a lot of them do) the winning bidder probably paid more than he originally intended to. I would be curious to see what the winning bidder's plans are for the car: Stay with the original paint and have a professional remove the dings and match the original paint and blend or do a complete restoration?    

What would your preference be if you won the auction? 

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Hi Steve.....I was really hoping you would win this auction.......one of my very favorite colors. You don’t see many in this color and I don’t know why......maybe there weren’t that many from the factory. If it was mine, I’d do a total first class restoration......it would be a jewel!   Regards.    Guy

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47 minutes ago, Diseazd said:

Hi Steve.....I was really hoping you would win this auction.......one of my very favorite colors. You don’t see many in this color and I don’t know why......maybe there weren’t that many from the factory. If it was mine, I’d do a total first class restoration......it would be a jewel!   Regards.    Guy

Hi Guy,  Thank you for pulling for me during the auction. Unfortunately, it was a very competitive auction and I had reached my budget limit.  When I was bidding on the car, I thought that if I happened to win the auction that I would go the paintless dent repair route, then drive and enjoy the car for a few years and then maybe, just maybe consider doing a full restoration.  However, it's all for naught since I didn't win. 

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