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Lessons from people who didn't listen.  How to kill your grandparents.  I hope they make it but if they don't, it will be a wedding to remember.

https://www.wlwt.com/article/local-couple-shares-story-after-wedding-becomes-a-super-spreader-event/34694908

 

Due to the pandemic and to protect their guests, they cut their guest count from 200+ to 85. Eighty-three guests attended the wedding ceremony and reception.

Two weeks later, 32 guests have tested positive, including the newlyweds and three of their grandparents. Two grandparents had to visit the emergency room due to severe symptoms.

"Weddings are definitely scary right now. I didn't think that almost half of our wedding guests were gonna get sick," Mikayla Bishop said. "You're in the moment. You're having fun. You don't think about COVID anymore."

The couple provided masks and hand sanitizer at the entrance to the venue but quickly found out that few guests took advantage of them.

"My big moment honestly was right when the ceremony started and the doors opened and both my parents walked me down the aisle. The first thing I see is I see everyone's face. And that's when I realized wow. Nobody's wearing a mask," Mikayla Bishop said. "I'm walking down the aisle. We can't do anything now."

"When I saw everyone not wearing masks I was just like, 'Oh, well I guess we're just gonna kinda go with it I guess,'" Anthony Bishop said.

 

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Here's another wedding story for sports fans (soccer/football).  A national super star with all of the best testing and education available lets down a whole nation just by being dumb and selfish.  But he is just a football player, not a rocket scientist.  It must be the invisibility of the virus.  Out of sight, out of mind.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8960067/Mo-Salah-slammed-ex-Egypt-striker-Mido-neglect-attending-brothers-wedding.html

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Lots of irony in this story.  "diligence and dedication" but no common sense.  The old guys sticking together.  Just be tougher than the virus.  Kick it to the curb.  Grassley is 87 and McConnell is 78.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/18/chuck-grassley-coronavirus-covid-19-diagnosis-symptom-free/6339013002/

Grassley has not said where he believes he was exposed to the virus. He was most recently in the Senate on Monday, where he made remarks on the floor without a mask on and spoke with colleagues while wearing a mask. He also attended a meeting with Senate Republican leadership on Monday, which includes Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

McConnell addressed Grassley's diagnosis in remarks on the Senate floor Wednesday morning. He praised Grassley for setting the Senate record of 27 years without missing a single Senate vote and wished him well.

"This show of diligence and dedication is remarkable by any measure. But because of who Sen. Grassley is, it hasn’t seemed remarkable at all," McConnell said of Grassley's record voting streak. "That incredible commitment to serving Iowans and working around the clock is just who our colleague is. That devotion is just his daily routine."

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I think it's good to keep in mind that anything at this stage is vaccine 1.0.  There will be 1.1, 1.2, etc.

Problems which immediately occurred to me about the first vaccines which are two-dose are:

1. How many people will get dose 1, but never return for dose 2?

2. How many people will get dose 1, but won't get dose 2 at the proper time?

3. How many people will get dose 1, then need dose 2 but can't remember which vaccine it is (and don't have records)?

So although I look forward to having vaccines (and expect to take advantage of them), I don't think we really have anything workable for the long haul until we have single-dose vaccines which also have high efficacy.

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My nephew got married in June in Wyoming - deepinahearta no mask country.

BUT - they didn't let anyone in the church without a mask. Period. And they spaced out the seating.

The reception was outdoors at a ranch nearby, and there was a reasonable amount of spacing going on.

It turned out OK.

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The COVID ActNow page is going to need another shade of red.  Two more states/territories turned since since Monday.  Only six left.

 

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On 11/15/2020 at 5:59 AM, grannyknot said:

Unless of course you're filthy rich, then you can just breeze right through,  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/liz-uihlein-covid-19-diagnosis-1.5801118

The area where I live in the province of Ontario is right on the verge of a lockdown at the moment, we hit 1600 new cases in one day last week.  They say once we hit 2000 per day then the Bell curve takes over and then it will just skyrocket.  I'm just going to have to kick the breathing habit.

 

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Here's another Canada reference, relative to Thanksgiving.

 

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Relativity came up n the early days of the pandemic.  How bad is it compared to the common flu for example.  The media still can't stop using death as the best measure though.  Like when you read about a horrible accident and "they survived" implies that everything is okay.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/18/health/covid-19-deaths-us-250k-trnd/index.html

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So true, cancer survivors can certainly attest to that.

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I remember when Geraldo used to be somebody.  Then a bunch of scandal and now look at him.  Kind of like Guliani.  How does that happen?  

The virus should be named after him.  It might be in the end.  They're working on getting it out there.

https://www.businessinsider.com/mnuchin-white-house-working-on-mass-distribution-of-the-virus-2020-11

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1 hour ago, 240260280 said:

Chance a women with breast cancer dies from it 2.6%

Chance of person with Wuhan Virus dying from it 2.4%

 

The 2.4% for Wuhan/Covid is way off. Currently with 600K daily infections and 10K deaths, it is roughly 1 in 60, which would be 1/60 or 1.6%.  However, the daily infections number is only those that are tested and confirmed.  Those with virus that are either asymptomatic or not sick enough to go get tested would make that 1.6% much lower.  I would bet that with 600k detections, there are another 400K  or more that are probably not detected but walking the streets.

A guy I worked on the line with 11 days ago recently tested positive.  He did not feel any symptoms really at all, but had to get tested because his daughter tested positive on a test before she could go to school.  So I am 'in quarantine' working from home here for the next 3 days.  If the guys daughter had not tested positive, and she had no symptoms, my co-worker would never have gone to get tested.  Wonder how much that is going on across the US and world.

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3 minutes ago, motorman7 said:

The 2.4% for Wuhan/Covid is way off.

Nope.. it is deaths/case for world numbers. 

 

I lost two friends in the spring. Since then many in the company I work have lost family members.

Don't make it seem like it is nothing... it is serious.  Asymptomatic spreaders are like snipers.

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The point that gets overlooked and under-reported by the media often is the ICU capacity.  Lots of philosophizing over death versus long-haul, young versus old, etc. but the other really big issue is that the strokes and heart attacks and car accident victims don't have anyone to take care of them if the beds are full of COVID-19 patients.

Responding generally to motorman7, I have 246 on Ignore, don't know what he said.  Sorry 246 but your comments are racist, and irrelevant.

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36 minutes ago, Zed Head said:

I actually feel pretty lucky here in Washington.  But it's still not good, and definitely going to get worse.

I think San Diego has done fairly well based on it's population size, but looks like we are starting to get a significant rise in cases as well. 

Personally, the situation at work, though minor, has been my closest experience with Covid.  Also, I can't say that anyone I know has been infected other than the one guy at work who I met just once.  Cancer on the other hand has affected both friends and relatives in 2020.  Either way, there is bad stuff going on out there, just trying to stay healthy here.   Working on the cars is safe.

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