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    i am seriously considering a line lock  https://www.summitracing.com/parts/huu-1745000/overview/ 

    as a way to lock the rear brakes. if you put in a hidden switch and a small light on the dash,  someone gets in the car and tries to drive off, the first time they hit the brakes, the rear brakes lock up and wont release. i even thought that maybe on on the clutch line if it could stop the clutch pedal from being pushed.

    what do you guys think? opinions please

    thanks all   sb

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    I really think something like lojack is a better idea. We have to repossess cars sometimes and when we do they just pull up with a wrecker ,lift it and leave, 30 seconds max. I think many Z's get stolen this way so the cars really don't have to roll that much. Many times they pull them up onto a trailer or rollback. Being able to locate the car is probably the better solution. Professionals would rather haul it then figure out if it runs later...

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    2 hours ago, Patcon said:

    I really think something like lojack is a better idea. We have to repossess cars sometimes and when we do they just pull up with a wrecker ,lift it and leave, 30 seconds max. I think many Z's get stolen this way so the cars really don't have to roll that much. Many times they pull them up onto a trailer or rollback. Being able to locate the car is probably the better solution. Professionals would rather haul it then figure out if it runs later...

    I agree.  Most of the cheap & easy theft deterrents will only stop or slow down the spur of the moment thief looking for a joy ride.  If your car is worth more for parts or export, LoJack is the way to go.

    Dennis

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    6 minutes ago, psdenno said:

    LoJack is the way to go.

    Dennis,

    Is there anyone other than Lojack for this technology?

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    24 minutes ago, Patcon said:

    Dennis,

    Is there anyone other than Lojack for this technology?

    LoJack is expensive so some people get a little creative.  One clever workaround I heard about was to buy a cheap used iPhone - cracked screen would be a good choice and then put it on a an inexpensive wireless pay as you go plan.  Hide it in the car, like by the taillights and hot wire it for continuous power.  Then use the "find my phone" feature to track it if the car is stolen.  Also, there are other commercial choices.

    Dennis

     

     

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    There are a variety of GPS trackers out there now.  Amazon.com has quite a few in their lineup.

    https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=vehicle+gps+tracker&rh=n%3A172282%2Ck%3Avehicle+gps+tracker

    I do some of this for work and discovered that Verizon has a fleet tracking and there are some others as well.  Verizon's system is designed for the newer ODBC ports on cars, but, there are other services that do not require this technology (I believe 1996 and newer cars are required).  There's no need to pay for a full service phone data plan because some of these vendors only need 3G speeds to track equipment.  The GPS positioning is a small amount of data.  Check out these sites:

    http://intouchgps.com/

    http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/category/gps+tracking/vehicle+tracking+devices.do?campaign=131796383&adgroup=5472063743&keyword=car tracking service&network=g&adposition=1t3&gclid=Cj0KEQjw_9-9BRCqpZeZhLeOg68BEiQAOviWAl1eBuKAsHrRrMvOMy7YPoL-A5GIgrTblz4jVUTA09EaAvUu8P8HAQ

    Or just do a search on Google.com for "car tracking services"

    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=car tracking services

    If you don't want to be bound by cellular, you can always use a satellite based system like the Spot Tracker:  http://www.findmespot.com/en/

    Spot was used for many different rally races across the world.  

    Tons of options available out there.

    m

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    I had thought about doing that. I hadn't worked out the details of tracking, power and service plans. Thanks for the idea... 

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    I was thinking about getting one of these. You only pay for gsm cellular data service month to month. Verizon has a plan thats real cheap i believe.

     

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    or a more sophisticated system that allows remote control functions. It says you can turn on the alarm remotely so i would imagine you see real time where the car is at and if it's traveling you could kill the ignition and they would have to

    abandon the vehicle in the road.  A more suitable function would be to send a 1000volt shock to their arse.

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    21 minutes ago, hr369 said:

    I was thinking about getting one of these.

    Lots of 1 star reviews

    25 minutes ago, hr369 said:

    or a more sophisticated system that allows remote control functions

    this one only has 8 reviews but they are all pretty good

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    32 minutes ago, hr369 said:

    I was thinking about getting one of these. You only pay for gsm cellular data service month to month. Verizon has a plan thats real cheap i believe.

     

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    or a more sophisticated system that allows remote control functions. It says you can turn on the alarm remotely so i would imagine you see real time where the car is at and if it's traveling you could kill the ignition and they would have to

    abandon the vehicle in the road.  A more suitable function would be to send a 1000volt shock to their arse.

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      Agree with the 1000 volts but you'd end up with a GT40 "Gurney Bubble" in your top.

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    30 minutes ago, Patcon said:

    Lots of 1 star reviews

     

    i've found that many bad reviews can be by customers that expect precision quality in a cheap china crap 20$ electronic or simply don't know how to use the thing. Some didn't realize that the battery didn't last a month before needing a recharge/new battery. Just to test the technology i was considering the cheaper one. There are a few remote areas around me that have no cell service. With my luck, thats where all the car thieves live

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     - Make an anchor point in concrete, and put a heavy grade anti theft chain over the front suspension crossmember to lock it.

    - 2 Pits on a chain sleeping next to the car

    - A good theft Insurance

    LOL

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    As I look at this further, the Spot Trace seems to be promising.  It has a movement alert system and will notify you in the case your car is moved or if the device is powered off.  $119 plus $100 per year service.  Reviews aren't bad either..  Amazon.com

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    This was an interesting review on the device

    "SPOT Trace led me to believe that my boat would be safe using this device and their service. Truth is the day my $233,000 boat was stolen it didn't do a thing. Why? Because these SPOT Trace devices can be easily found due to the fact that they emit an RF frequency to communicate with GPS satellites. Anyone can buy an RF detector here on Amazon that will tell a thief if your boat, motorcycle or car has one. They simply find the hidden device, turn the device off or remove the batteries and your car boat, truck, or motorcycle disappears! When we told the police officer taking the report we had satellite tracking on the boat he said those are worthless. A thief who knows his trade will not let a tracking device like SPOT Trace get in his way. SPOT won't tell you this. They lead you to believe your vehicle is protected. That's not always the case. SPOT Trace is no deterrent for a professional thief!"

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    I wonder if a phone or Lojack concealed in the car gives off a similar RF signal...

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    5 hours ago, Patcon said:

    This was an interesting review on the device

    "SPOT Trace led me to believe that my boat would be safe using this device and their service. Truth is the day my $233,000 boat was stolen it didn't do a thing. Why? Because these SPOT Trace devices can be easily found due to the fact that they emit an RF frequency to communicate with GPS satellites. Anyone can buy an RF detector here on Amazon that will tell a thief if your boat, motorcycle or car has one. They simply find the hidden device, turn the device off or remove the batteries and your car boat, truck, or motorcycle disappears! When we told the police officer taking the report we had satellite tracking on the boat he said those are worthless. A thief who knows his trade will not let a tracking device like SPOT Trace get in his way. SPOT won't tell you this. They lead you to believe your vehicle is protected. That's not always the case. SPOT Trace is no deterrent for a professional thief!"

    But the device is easier to get at inside a boat right?  whereas in a car they have to get inside without setting off the car alarm and then there are lots of places behind door panels, interior panels to hide the device.

    There are lots of video's on youtube where people have tracked their stolen cars and have brought police to that location to recover it.  Our old datsun's hopefully will never attract this caliber of thief.

     

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    1 minute ago, hr369 said:

    But the device is easier to get at inside a boat right?  whereas in a car they have to get inside without setting off the car alarm and then there are lots of places behind door panels, interior panels to hide the device.

    There are lots of video's on youtube where people have tracked their stolen cars and have brought police to that location to recover it.  Our old datsun's hopefully will never attract this caliber of thief

    This is true! Although I would think a $233k boat has a locked area at least as secure as a Z...

    although nice Datsun's are now trading at $25k, in 7 years they will be pushing double that if things don't change. I would think easily stolen, $50k cars would be appealing to someone who has a way to ship them overseas...

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    bad news. they can just tape a rf signal jammer to the side of your car and drive off into the night. crap.

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    The good new is you can buy a $30 jammer to plug into a cigarette lighter when you rent a car and sometimes go off-roading or very fast.  They won't know a thing.

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    I'm not sure all criminals would be that smart.  But, anything is possible I guess.  However, getting back to the original title of this thread... theft prevention.  A GPS device would likely be considered theft recovery.

    To prevent a theft, I typically remove the coil wire and take it with me.  A more sophisticated solution would be to install a keyed ignition shutoff and alarm.  When I was younger I used "The Club" but that can easily be removed.  The best way, IMHO, is to set it up so the thief cannot start the car.  But, then again anything is possible if a thief really wants your car.  Maybe we should rename this thread to "Theft Deterrent"...

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    On 8/21/2016 at 11:14 PM, Mike said:

    I'm not sure all criminals would be that smart.  But, anything is possible I guess.  However, getting back to the original title of this thread... theft prevention.  A GPS device would likely be considered theft recovery.

    To prevent a theft, I typically remove the coil wire and take it with me.  A more sophisticated solution would be to install a keyed ignition shutoff and alarm.  When I was younger I used "The Club" but that can easily be removed.  The best way, IMHO, is to set it up so the thief cannot start the car.  But, then again anything is possible if a thief really wants your car.  Maybe we should rename this thread to "Theft Deterrent"...

    My philosophy is along similar lines. I remove the rotor from the distributor. With the coil wire, someone could possibly use one of the spark plug wires and drive off on 5 cylinders. If they have a spare rotor with them, they are determined to drive off in my car. 

    Of course, anymore a manual transmission is somewhat a theft deterrent.

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    Has anyone considered this kind of solution?  Seems like a very simple theft deterrent.   However, I would think disconnecting the battery totally would cause memory loss on any electronics in the cabin.

     

     

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