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  2. Recreating the various oddities/imperfections that happen during the factory assembly of the car would be a restoration. Removing those inconsistencies, like the overspray, would be "perfecting", in my opinion. Removing the stuff that they think doesn't belong. It will be interesting to see what types of finish they used on the hardware. Will they use what appears correct, or what would be "correct" for the time of manufacture? How does one tell? Apparently this is the first appearance on the market of one of their "restorations". Kind of surprising how many they have. And why are they are selling?
  3. And...? What's your point? I experienced HLS30-00023 in the metal and it is certainly restored to immaculate original specification. It's one of the best restorations I have ever seen, if not the best. If the phrase 'original specification' is troubling you, I can't see why. The specification of the car is arguably the best representation of its original specification that it is possible to achieve for a running and driving legally-registered road car (and yes, it was driven some distance by several people on the day I saw it) rather than a static exhibit. We discussed tyres on the drive, but running it on the brand and type of tyres it sat on in 1969 would be impractical if not dangerous. It has modern fluids in it. Modern paint formulas, electroplating that's probably more environmentally friendly than those of late 1960s Japan. We could go on, couldn't we. And hence we arrive - dancing - on the head of that pin I mentioned... I wonder, what would you say about the car should you find yourself one day standing in front of it and next to the team who restored it? Somehow I don't think you'd be taking a wheel off to run your spectrograph over the front brake calipers. On the other hand, maybe you really would be that guy. At this point I should remind you that HLS30-00023 is not the car that is going to auction on October 23rd. For me, it was a great privilege to experience it in the metal, running and driving. You on the other hand are looking at photos.
  4. Won’t find this info on FB- lol. I worked on a 72 thru Covid . The guy texts me yesterday that he has no rear brakes . I put all new SS lines in his car and had to clean/ rebuild his brake switch valve . I’ve had the weirdest stuff with his brakes . The O rings failed on the brake switch and fluid was forced from one side to the other back up into the MC . Now his rear brakes don’t work - so after reading this I assume it’s that proportioning valve . I haven’t laid hands on it yet . Looks like I have good reference material here . Wish me luck
  5. This guys are very slow responding emails. Need another shop!
  6. Very much agree but at the end of the day interesting to see.
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  9. @Ellison Brooks Another one brought here to espouse the benefits of Seafaom. Powerful stuff! Great for training and verification. Good luck! What brand of car do you specialize in? The four-wheeled kind or three?
  10. Oh, and regarding the dash, it is the original and has one small crack right in the center. There is a local dash repair shop that I will have look at it to see if it can be reparied.
  11. Thanks for the prompt. I have been meaning to update the thread here but seem to have gotten side-tracked. The metal work has been completed on the body and it is now at the body shop. It has been there for about 3 weeks now and work on the underside has already been started. Carlos said the underside should be finished by the end of this week. He estimates that the body work and paint will be complete sometime in December. Would be nice to get this back before Christmas. There was quite a bit of metal work to do as you can see from the pictures below. The battery area was pretty bad as usual, as well as the floors. There were a number of smaller areas that were rusted through, and Larry did a good job filling and/or patching those. I wanted to make sure everything was very structurally sound and that all hidden rust areas were addressed. That being said, I am glad that part of the job has been completed. It is nice to see the body work started. The underside is looking better already. Carlos (the bodyshop/paint guy) stopped by my place and took a number of pictures of 2614 to see how the frame rails and other welded on parts were finished i.e no seam sealer. He also brought a paint camera and took pictures of the car color inside the door jam for color reference. I told him the color was the 920 Safari Gold per Nissan. I asked him to let me know how the colors line up. With 55 years of age, I am curious if the color on 2614 has darkened or developed a patina over time. Carlos has his own mixing set-up so he said that he will set me up with color samples prior to paint. In the mean time, I have been accumulating parts but not much else other than inspecting the body progress on a bi-weekly basis. However, now that my summer projects are nearly complete, I will get back to work on 0042.
  12. Seafoam really is the way to go—you’ve proven how well it preserves fuel long-term. Running fresh gas through after storage is smart too, since it clears out moisture and varnish so the engine’s ready to perform reliably again.
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  14. Should be plenty of pictures. Close to 400 on their last Z listing. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-datsun-240z-290/
  15. Here's your comments about 00023 and S30's work on it. Alan puts this into even more elegant words: "A great privilege to experience this precious early production car, restored to immaculate original specification.
  16. Maybe these should be called "PerfectoMods". "The authenticity of the Masterpieces was affirmed in October 2024, when Takeo Miyazaki, a member of the original S30 development team at Nissan, tested three completed cars. After experiencing them firsthand, Miyazaki San remarked that the cars “truly brought him back in time and that he was amazed with the perfection in details” ..." Interesting that S30.World is based in The Netherlands but the BaT auction is being coordinated by Garage44 in Pennsylvania. I'd guess that the target buyers are here in the States. Many moving parts. I wonder if they'll bring the car(s) over, or if they're already here for viewing. https://bringatrailer.com/member/garage44/ https://garage-44.com/contact/ ""The commitment to quality and accuracy exhibited in these restorations is unsurpassed. I am excited to partner with S30.world and bring these special 240Z's to market" says Adam Eisenhauer, from Garage 44, the US firm coordinating the sale of the cars in the United States."
  17. How have I "missed" anything? I haven't made any claim about that car and I didn't build it. It was nothing - literally nothing - to do with me. You've gone off half-cocked. As above, I have not made any claim about these cars. And who is this "mate" that you refer to? You seem to have made some assumptions that are more arse than umption. I asked you who were the "so called experts" you were referring to, and answer was there none. So I'm not very hopeful, but there it is. I'm getting the feeling that you are confusing the messenger with the message. Again. Did you also miss my mention that a healthy dose of pragmatism goes a long way when getting involved in the restoration and refurbishment of these cars? The mere fact that a car is 'restored' will naturally mean that it is no longer original or factory correct. Rivet counting and nitpicking from the Peanut Gallery is fine up to a point (I partake as much as anyone else) but taking it all the way to its logical conclusion we all end up dancing on the head of a pin. Even the record-setting green car on BaT had plenty of non-originality on show. How far do you want to take it? 1970 air in the tyres? Perhaps it might be worth reminding ourselves that the term 'Factory Correct' is a fine intention, but a logical impossibility if taken literally. Personally I'd tend to take it as more of a statement of faithful but necessarily pragmatic target-setting. There will no doubt be plenty of shots at point-scoring on the BaT auction, which is par for the course and fair enough. And people who take sales patter a little too seriously might like to pop back to 1969 to remind themselves that these cars have had hyperbolic statements attached to them from Day One. Personally, I'd say - with English understatement hopefully detected - that these cars are pretty good. But by all means, show me better.
  18. Here's a good one for you, tell me why this is incorrect. The brake from HLS30 00057 It will give you an idea of the attention to detail S30 go to to get a factory correct restoration!
  19. Wow you make this too easy RAE! Which factory are they making it correct to, certainly not Nissan. Look at the underside of the white December 1970 240Z https://s30.world/collection/datsun-240z-hls30-15652-us nothing like that ever came out of the factory. Look under the front cowling over the windscreen wiper motors and ventilation, never seen that finish from the factory, it's usually gray undercoat beneath that panel. What happened to all the chipseal the factory applied under the car that was then covered with overspray when the final paint was applied. That's a factory correct restoration when you see that, not all this shiny stuff. So many other things that are wrong but I'll let you stew on the obvious that you seem to have missed. It may be a nice fully restored car but certainly not factory correct like you and your mate claims.
  20. For example? Let's discuss it. Fire away. Maybe we can all learn something. Aha! Too shiny! Perhaps they should have used (illegal) early 1970s Alkyd Enamel paint. You have a ready supply I presume? No 'Cad' plating? Tut tut. One thing that was required (I reckon) was a healthy dose of pragmatism. And it's one thing to know how a certain car is supposed to be, and another to make it so. There are plenty who don't know the former, so have no chance of achieving the latter. You will of course be sympathetic to this situation, having been there yourself... Right? This has been noted previously. You're giving it a pretty good go though, so more power to you. Who are the "so called experts" you are referring to, and exactly what role have they had in the restoration of the cars? Inquisitive minds would like to know.
  21. Looks like they're only selling one, to start. Wonder which. BaT has been having a run of RNM's lately. https://s30.world/collection https://s30.world/masterpieces "... A limited-run of factory-correct restorations of the iconic Datsun 240Z will become available, with the first one to be sold at auction in the United States on October 23rd 2025. ... The auction will take place on the renowned Bring-a-trailer site, and it represents a rare opportunity for collectors and enthusiasts to own a piece of automotive history. The auction date of October 23rd, 2025 ..."
  22. Thank you Roo - I'll have more to say on this subject after I've had a chance to collect my thoughts.
  23. Buyer beware, anytime a seller claims it is a factory correct restoration it makes you wonder which factory! Looking at a lot of the details on the S30 cars they have in their museum they are far from factory correct, nice and shiny but Nissan never built them to this level. Also quite a few important details on the early cars are different to how they were built. I'm no expert but if I can spot the difference how can the so called experts involved advising S30 have missed them?
  24. Wow, this is pretty cool and it's not April 1st. This should be a fun auction to watch. A note on the blue car that appears to be a pre 21000 car. The map light is hooded which is the same as my early car and also @Johnz1971 car that we discussed here. 1970 Wiring Diagram - Page 9 - Electrical - Classic Zcar Community
  25. This has been discussed on other forums, and my personal take is that there can be no such thing as a 'replacement bodyshell' for these cars. Replacing the bodyshell is replacing the car. There's no continuity. It would make a whole new thing.
  26. Hopefully it fit's better than the doors I got from resurrected classics but I would be super dubious if all the attachment points are in the correct position. On the doors I got the manufacturer was relying on the stamped dimples to drill and then weld the nuts on. There was no way a drilling/welding jig was used because of the variances from door to door. It seems overseas countries have figured out cheap stamping but not cheap assembly.
  27. Today, the first official announcement of the S30.world 'The Masterpieces Collection' sales, to begin on 23rd October: S30.worldS30.world - The Masterpieces programThe Masterpieces program Garage 44 of Annville, Pennsylvania will be coordinating sales in the USA.
  28. Wow, great story. Keep us in your loop One thing I noticed in particular - the dash. No cracks. Aftermarket replacement?
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