Everything posted by Mark Maras
- No spark, where to start?
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No spark, where to start?
Are you sure you're not leaving a bit of heaven. Donuts, good coffee, parts store across the street. I'd be looking for a nearby house for sale.
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Misfiring while cruising
Measure the resistance in all of them. We'll start there. There are numerous videos on YouTube to show you how.
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Misfiring while cruising
No. The fact that some of the plugs look good means that the coil is working fine. The problem appears to be in the distribution of the spark to all the plugs. That's why a distributor is called a distributor. The distribution of spark is handled by the the spinning rotor receiving high voltage from the coil then it distributes the spark to the contacts inside the cap into the spark plug wires. There are four connections on each wire that can give you trouble The connector that plugs into the cap. The connection of the wire to the previously mentioned connector, then we move down to the plug end. There's the wire to the connector and the connector to the plug. Any of those connections can cause a fouled plug. The test that I described earlier is to try to isolate which connections are bad. Grab a cold beer or two, your multi-meter, enough time to do it properly and have a go at it.
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Misfiring while cruising
If I were that mechanic, I'd grab my volt-ohm meter first.
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Misfiring while cruising
@jalexquijano We can't eliminate poor wires or connections until you complete the tests on all six. Three separate tests that includes testing with everything (cap and plugs) connected Then another test on all six with the cap disconnected, plugs connected, then a third test on all six with the plugs disconnected and the cap connected. It would be a good idea to do a fourth test on the wires only. No cap or plugs connected. I still think you'll find the problem somewhere in the cap (new), rotor (new), wires, or the wire connections. I think the carbs are close enough based on some plugs looking good. You've checked for intake leaks and found none. Compression ratio is OK. There's really only a couple of things left. Valve seals are a possibility (seals could have been damaged due to improper installation) but lets eliminate the easy one first. Try not to get too frustrated. WE will figure this out.
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ZCON 2018 Roll Call
You could pack a spare set of round tops with you. Less energy to change carbs than pushing.?
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Misfiring while cruising
I'd grab a volt-ohm meter and measure the resistance from the contacts in the dist. cap to the body of the spark plug. Basically, remove the cap leaving the wires plugged in. Next remove the spark plugs and plug them back onto the wires. One of the meter leads will go onto the contact inside the cap. The other meter lead will go onto the body of the spark plug. Measure the resistance in each of the cap, wire, and plug. When you find one with a lot of resistance remove the cap and measure the resistance in the wire and the plug. Then reinstall the wire into the cap and pull the plug from the wire. Then measure the resistance in the wire and cap. Ask if you have any questions. It's the best way to learn.
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Misfiring while cruising
Sometimes you just have to go with the limited info and have faith that it will work out.
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Misfiring while cruising
1100 rpms is a nice busy idle. That should help eliminate the plugs loading up. Watch your temp gauge. Things can get hot pretty fast at a busy idle unless your fan-or fans are pulling a lot of air.
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Misfiring while cruising
I hope you've checked all the connections. Don't reuse any of the black ones.
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Misfiring while cruising
You asked. Here's my gut feeling. It's based on what I'd do (if it were mine) to get your car back to a RELIABLE DAILY DRIVER. Honestly I'd put a stock engine back in it. Zs didn't like hot temperatures from day one and Nissan never did successfully solve the problem. You'd be a lot happier with a stock engine. My daily driver (summer and winter was a bone stock early 71. The most reliable, trouble free car that I've ever owned. Don't know what the availability of stock engines is in Panama but they're pretty cheap around the Pacific Northwest. Engine and shipping costs may be cheaper than importing a mechanic and an engine swap is very easy.
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Misfiring while cruising
I didn't give up on #5. That plug looked pretty darned good, imho, having idled for a long time. I was just glad to see that all the plugs weren't black. It doesn't matter to me if the other five were black. The fact that at least one plug looked good narrows the problem down. Also, the original problem was always isolated to #4 until the dist was removed and reinstalled. Then #5 started doing the same thing as #4 did previously. Seems to me that moving the wires and or disconnecting them and reinstalling them is the cause for the #5 gremlin and probably #4 too. I considered valve seals too but the two dark plugs looked sooty not oily. I'm hoping that re-seating the wires will eliminate the misfire. With Alex removing and reinstalling the wires the misfire may move to another cylinder until all the wire connections are right.
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Misfiring while cruising
Only if they feel loose. I've experienced connections that are too loose as well as connectors that were so tight that they wouldn't slip over the plug connection. Same thing with the dist. cap connectors. You'll have to assess each connection and determine if it's too loose, too tight or just right. I think we could call the just right connection the "Goldilocks Connection.
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Misfiring while cruising
I agree you'll need a new set of plugs but installing them now and letting it idle without finding the problem is just going to foul a couple of new plugs. Check you spark plug wire connections either with a meter or by unplugging both ends and reinstalling them. Be sure that all the wires go into the cap and onto the plugs the same depth. Based on past descriptions of the problem I'd guess that the #4 wire problem is the wire to the cap connection. #3 could be either connection but I'm leaning toward the plug connection.
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Misfiring while cruising
Do the test with the engine stone cold. We're looking for a poor electrical connection, or a bad wire or two. I know all the ignition parts are nearly new that's why I think it's a poor connection. When you installed the plug wires into the cap were you sure they all went in all the way? Same question applies to the plug wires onto the plugs.
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Misfiring while cruising
You'll need another set but not for the test. When you Z is sitting and idling does the idle sound smooth and even or does it sound like it's missing on a cylinder or two. My guess is in the beginning it sounds ok but gets worse the longer it idles.
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Misfiring while cruising
No, don't let it idle. You'll only end up buying new plugs. The fact that only a couple of plugs are fouled narrows the problem down to, what I believe is, poor spark plug wire connections at one end or the other. Compression is good, new ignition parts, there's not much left to blame it on. Try re-seating the spark plug wires onto the plugs and into the cap. They all should snap into place. If you have a volt-ohm meter, you could pull the cap with the wires connected (leave the wires in the loom), pull the plugs, reconnect the wires to the plugs and measure the resistance from the terminals inside the cap to the center pole of the plugs. The resistance should be nearly identical on all six. Btw, congrats on the dist removal and replacement. Success is sweet.
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ZCON 2018 Roll Call
You know which is the "right" decision. Four days and nights is a loooooooong time on a small boat under the best conditions. Ask yourself, What could possibly go wrong? Now ask yourself what could possibly go right at ZCON. Looking forward to good conversation with you at ZCON.
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Misfiring while cruising
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@jalexquijano It seems to me that you're kind of walking up and kicking fate in the shins by letting the engine idle for long periods of time. Especially an engine with a performance cam. Performance cams do wonderful things to engines but as a rule they don't idle well and if you idle them too long the rpms start to drop and you've got to blip the throttle a few times to get the idle back to normal. In that ten minutes of idling did your rpms change at all? Perhaps you're asking too much of the engine to idle that long. And I still want to know if all the plugs were black.- Misfiring while cruising
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I still think that the original problem with #4 was a poor wire connection at one end or the other. I think we ruled out other possibilities. That said, @jalexquijano have you explored the possibility that Previously #4 had a bad connection and now #3 and #4 have the same problem? Oh yeah, I still want to know if all the plugs were black.- Misfiring while cruising
I'd really like to know if all the plugs are black. If only #3 and #4 are black it narrows down the possibilities from a wide range of causes to the cap, rotor, wires and wire connections.- Misfiring while cruising
Check the other plugs to see if they're all black or if the problem is isolated to #3 and #4. Verify that the choke cables are adjusted properly and that the cables aren't pulling the nozzles down when the choke knob is all the way forward. - Misfiring while cruising
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