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Fairlady 432 at Auction

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    PS30-00166 is on the same auction , this car was mentioned already here in the past auction in the US . Seems it changed in hands in the US maybe previous owners wasn’t happy about the car .

    The estimate is really low , but I don’t know it is a good buy for someone who wants a right Z432 .

    Kats

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    I hope PS30-00166 finds a good home this time. Feel like it's getting flipped between owners. I'd love to own it and fix any issues it may have.

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     What is the orange sheet metal channel that sits where the choke normally lies? It looks like it has a lock cylinder in the center.

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    20 minutes ago, Mark Maras said:

     What is the orange sheet metal channel that sits where the choke normally lies? It looks like it has a lock cylinder in the center.

    That's where the ignition key has been relocated to. You can see the steering has no lock, just an empty hole in the plastic housing to the right of the column..

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    Good catch everyone !

    This R has an original Dash which doesn’t have cut away for the blower  vent for each side . You can see the hole is just covered ( un - cut ) by vinyl . Usually this vinyl had cut for the vent .This is the true dash for the 432-R .

    However , each car has each customized style . This car has center vent with control levers , I can’t tell from the picture whether this car has a heater box or not but , there might be a heater box . 

    Attached picture is the good example of a plain Z432-R which has close configurations to the press car . 
    No map light , no blower fan switch , no slide levers , no glove box lid , etc .

    Blue , you may have some pictures of the press car’s cockpit in your Hoover bag .

    Kats
     

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    6 hours ago, kats said:

    Blue , you may have some pictures of the press car’s cockpit in your Hoover bag .

    Kats
     

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    Sadly no... but I have one of those 432R / S30-S mirrors in my garage... nice to own a part of a 432R

    I'll hunt for 432R pictures and report back... Hoover switched on!

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    9 minutes ago, 240260280 said:

     

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    ...and these are the interiors of two different Works race cars, so starting to blur the lines between what's *correct* for a factory race PZR or 240ZR and the product used for homologation/sale to the general public.

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    58 minutes ago, 240260280 said:

    Sadly no... but I have one of those 432R / HS30 mirrors in my garage... nice to own a part of a 432R

    "HS30"...?

    Not used on HS30 production cars. It was actually an S30-S 'Z-Std' part. 

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    19 minutes ago, HS30-H said:

    That's a complete fibreglass dash cover. Nothing to do with the 432 or 432-R whatsoever.

     

    I put it there because of the blocked off ports that were discussed earlier.  If you want to do a 432-R tribute, it is a convenient part to have.

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    46 minutes ago, 240260280 said:

    I put it there because of the blocked off ports that were discussed earlier.  If you want to do a 432-R tribute, it is a convenient part to have.

    You could fill this thread with such things, but it would be more appropriate on a thread dedicated to that topic.

    Otherwise its just like having a pet dog which brings random 'gifts' in from the garden...

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    So be it... this site is not reference site, it is the spirit of 片山豊 that lives here: "Love Z cars. Love Z people. Love Z life." .

    If you want to set up a more accurate and orderly site, I will pay for the domain and web space and get you or a friend of yours set up to start rolling it out. It is a shame that your knowledge, experience, and reference materials are not shared to the masses.... the Z world would be a better place!

     

     

     

     

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    35 minutes ago, 240260280 said:

    So be it... this site is not reference site...

    Isn't it?

    36 minutes ago, 240260280 said:

    it is the spirit of 片山豊 that lives here: "Love Z cars. Love Z people. Love Z life." .

    Lord save us from the advertising jingles. Pretty please.

    37 minutes ago, 240260280 said:

    If you want to set up a more accurate and orderly site, I will pay for the domain and web space and get you or a friend of yours set up to start rolling it out. It is a shame that your knowledge, experience, and reference materials are not shared to the masses.... the Z world would be a better place!

    Maybe you could make that offer to your chum 'SpeedRoo' over here, as he seems enthusiastic?

    Look, this thread is titled 'Fairlady 432 at auction'. A little digression is inevitable - and usually no bad thing - but if you're going to be scouring the web for random photos to dump here then may I suggest they either have a question or explanation attached to them, that they are not divorced from their original context, and that they might be neatly woven into the subject of the thread? I don't see how a replica FRP dash is 'on topic' in this thread. I think it's a reasonable observation.

    And I do plenty of 'sharing', thanks. My personal preference is to use my ammunition sparingly, and where it will - hopefully - be on target and with good grouping. Your spray and pray approach might please the crowd (hey, who doesn't like a bit of instant gratification?) but in the long term it will tend to throw up more questions than answers because you're often not bringing the data with the photos. A good example is the tranche of photos you dumped on the choke & throttle control thread yesterday. Who knows what's what anymore? 

    Here, have a WienerMobile on me. You can colour it in at your leisure...

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    Some photos I've amassed of what I believe are Genuine PS30-SBs but some photos may be of replica's. I'm not sure.

    https://goo.gl/photos/s1SzsY35jA47dTZc7

    But I kept them for reference purposes.

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    On 11/25/2019 at 2:23 PM, 240260280 said:

    Early rubber floor mats!

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    The JDM rubber mats came standard on all S30-S models, so not just limited to early cars like North American HLS30s.  The HLS30 front mats are also different as they have "DATSUN" molded into them. 

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    I just love the interior on Z432-R's...

    I wonder why the gear stick / shifter is bent though? 71A boxes usually had a dead straight shifter...unless it's an option box feature?

    I've got a Mach wheel like that, but I always seem them faded to brown, they were originally black.

    If anyone is planning to do a replica you'll want a set of Ikeda Bussan seats, I went to great expense in grabbing a set for myself. They are not cheap..but then again nothing Z-432-R parts wise is cheap. That's what makes these cars so special, the parts are all super rare and expensive if you can find them.

    Not the most comfortable, but certainly look the part in the Z. I've now taken them out since I used the car for my wedding and it wasn't gonna work with the wife's dress on the day.

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    3 hours ago, Mike B said:

    The JDM rubber mats came standard on all S30-S models, so not just limited to early cars like North American HLS30s.  The HLS30 front mats are also different as they have "DATSUN" molded into them. 

    Interesting.  I thought the "DATSUN" stamped ones were aftermarket.  Sorry I'm mixing up with the 240z stamped rubber mats.

     

     

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    2 hours ago, Gav240z said:

    I just love the interior on Z432-R's...

    I wonder why the gear stick / shifter is bent though? 71A boxes usually had a dead straight shifter...unless it's an option box feature?
     

    Original 432-R gearstick (FS5C71-A 'box) was straight. The one on the auction car has been modified to bring it closer to hand in 1st, 3rd & 5th gears when you are sitting - quite reclined - in the Ikeda Bussan bucket seat, and with your Takata 4-point seatbelts on. So, owner preference modified.

    I've done the same on my 432-R replica. Shortened the stick a little at the same time.

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    28 minutes ago, HS30-H said:

    Original 432-R gearstick (FS5C71-A 'box) was straight. The one on the auction car has been modified to bring it closer to hand in 1st, 3rd & 5th gears when you are sitting - quite reclined - in the Ikeda Bussan bucket seat, and with your Takata 4-point seatbelts on. So, owner preference modified.

    I've done the same on my 432-R replica. Shortened the stick a little at the same time.

    Nissan did all a great service by adopting many ad hoc racing features on later Z's. Take a look at the Maxima N47 head and a welded-and-sculpted E31 head.

    Here is how shift levers progressed:

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    F4W71B (back)

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    280z (FS5W71B on left) to 280zx (FS5W71B variant on right...with vibration damping spring)

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    On 11/25/2019 at 2:23 PM, 240260280 said:

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    Lots of little details make the Z432R interesting. Even the door jam switch for light has been removed. They kept the standard door card and didn't fit the pull handles. No cover for the handbrake lever either. Every little bit helps getting the weight down. Shame it was fitted with the heavy 432 engine, however they did build one with the lighter L24....albeit a factory team car. 

     

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    18 minutes ago, SpeedRoo said:

    Shame it was fitted with the heavy 432 engine, however they did build one with the lighter L24....albeit a factory team car.

    "Lighter L24" LOL  Is that weighed in full race trim, or full road trim?

    I refer you to a thread with some neat handbrake turns and reverse-gear editorial manoeuvering from the OP:

     

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    I'll remind you that the S20 engine was soon discontinued and the L24 went on to racing glory in its place, all over the planet. As well a famous Japanese racer mentioned early on that the L24 was the better racing engine.  The S20 was a fine piece of machinery but the L24 did the job better with fewer parts.

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