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I purchased HLS0003547 from Calmbach Motor Co. in San Antonio TX in July of 1970. I was a soon to be ETS'd SP5 at the Medical Field Service School (read about it in the novel M.A.S.H.!) and heading home to CA and grad school. Married, my wife and I drove it 91K miles until 1984, and began a complete restoration for my book "How to Restore Your Datsun Z-Car", California Bill's Auto Books, Tucson AZ. This has been in print for twenty years now, and brings me about a buck a day, still! We showed the car locally for a number of years, but back then a Japanese car didn't pack much punch at concours!

In about 1997 we had a financial crisis, and I had to sell 3547 back to Nissan USA ($12,000) for a display car while they were getting together their repop Z's to sell as new cars. It went to several auto shows, then was retired to their offices in Carson CA. Pete Brock told me that the green car had been sold to a private party about 2007, but I don't know who.

I'd like very much to find out where the car is now, and in whose hands. Nissan didn't notify me of it's availability or I might have tried to buy it back; it is a big piece of our family history! Is there any way to locate this particular Z-Car? Is there a Z Club member who has information about it's story after released by Nissan?

I'm building a silver '71 (the color I ordered -- if that can be what it was called in early 1970! -- in the first place; green was my second choice!) for the street but not as a pure stocker! My last big project before retiring from teaching.

I hope this qualifies as a Z-Car History topic!

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Welcome to CZCC.com, Wick!

Any of us who have (or had) a copy of your book are familiar with that car - in print. Tracking it down might be tough, but it's possible that some of the members here may have a lead or two. Best of luck!

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Hi Wick,

Do you know Carl Beck from Florida. He maintains a Z car registry at his site: http://zhome.com/ I looked but do not see your serial number listed. You might want to contact Carl as he knows a lot of the history of many early Z cars. He posts on this site. I to have a copy of your book and have referred to it many times. Thanks for taking the time to write that book.

Good luck with your search!

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Wow! Hi Wick! I have worn out your book a couple times over now... Good luck in your search. What are you doing in Chico? I got the impression that you lived in Texas from your book.

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Welcome to the forum Wick. Good luck with your search and your new build. I thoroughly enjoyed reading your book when I bought it 15+ (maybe closer to 20?) years ago.

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Welcome Mr H, and thanks for your book.

I purchased HLS0003547 from Calmbach Motor Co. in San Antonio TX in July of 1970.

That would be HLS30-003547 I think.

I'm available for proofreading duties if you publish again.... ;-)

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It's been months since I've been on this board. But welcome Wick! I too have your (excellent) book and wish you luck in finding 3547 again!

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Here is the link to the spreadsheet.

http://www.editgrid.com/user/mlwilliams/Z_Car_Registry

And... Mr. Humble, please accept my thanks and appreciation for your wonderful book. I've spent many hours reading it while first planning my resto project, then again many lookups during the project.

Jim

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Welcome Wick! I too have your wonderful book and refer to it often. I would not be surprised if the owner of 3547 is a member here, and I hope you are put in touch. I often wonder what happened to my first Z that I sold in '77, but I don't even know the VIN #. I hope you continue to visit the site and share your valuable knowledge.

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Welcome Mr H, and thanks for your book.

That would be HLS30-003547 I think.

I'm available for proofreading duties if you publish again.... ;-)

Welcome Wick,

I hope you're re-united with your zed.

Without your book I would have wasted countless hours over the years.

I see Alan is manoeuvring for an International version of the bible.....;)

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Wick, great book and I am glad some money is still coming your way. I have been though the book numerous times and you gave great tips and insights into restoring these cars. Thanks for publishing the book. The vin # is HLS30 - 03547, you cover that in your book on page 203, chapter 13 "Z-Car Identification" middle of the page second paragraph. I liked the copy of the invoice on page 200, that shows the vin as HL530- 03547. I don't know where the 5 comes from.

I googled the new number and Carl Beck a member of this forum posted the following in February, 2009 Enjoy

"HLS30 00026 is of course Chris's... and HLS30 03547 was Bill Regan's. You'll note the lack of the "Rear Window Defroster" being listed. The later 70 Window Stickers included it.

FWIW,

Carl B"

I am sure you will find the owner of this car with such a famous pedigree. Good luck!

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I believe that a friendly police officer can run the VIN through the DMV in order to locate the owner. A car's VIN and plate number are recorded so that cars missing plates can be traced. Good luck finding your baby. I just got my 240 running again after 20 years sitting in the garage. I have your book and have started accumulating parts for the full storation. Best, Doug

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I googled the new number and Carl Beck a member of this forum posted the following in February, 2009 Enjoy

"HLS30 00026 is of course Chris's... and HLS30 03547 was Bill Regan's. You'll note the lack of the "Rear Window Defroster" being listed. The later 70 Window Stickers included it.

FWIW,

Carl B"

I am sure you will find the owner of this car with such a famous pedigree. Good luck!

Brubaker, you should have read the thread you copied and pasted the above quote from... it's from this site.. http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?33381-repro-window-sticker&p=282385&viewfull=1#post282385. If you read posts #38 and #39 in the thread you will see that Carl was having a senior moment and it was pointed out to him that HLS30-03547 was Wick's car, not the one Bill Regan restored and then sold.

-Mike

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I believe that a friendly police officer can run the VIN through the DMV in order to locate the owner.
I don't think that's likely anymore. An officer doing a search like this for non-law enforcement reasons would be risking his job. Privacy concerns are rampant these days. Here in Oregon, years ago you could walk into a DMV office with a plate number, pay a small fee (couple of bucks) and get a complete printout of all the records of the car and its registered owner(s). Imagine trying that today!

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That would be HLS30-003547 I think.

That would be 'HLS30-03547' I think.....

Tricky things these numbers...

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Hi Wick... It is nice to be able say thank you "in person" for the great help in your book. By the way, I got my Z back after almost 10 years away. I found it and won it back off of eBay; so it can happen.

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Brubaker, you should have read the thread you copied and pasted the above quote from... it's from this site.. http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?33381-repro-window-sticker&p=282385&viewfull=1#post282385. If you read posts #38 and #39 in the thread you will see that Carl was having a senior moment and it was pointed out to him that HLS30-03547 was Wick's car, not the one Bill Regan restored and then sold.

-Mike

Mike, I did see the other posts but decided to leave as is hoping that you or Carl would respond and hopefully have some information on the car. I also saw you posted an article about Wick's car for sale in some magazine you had from the 90's compared to the first z officially sold in America (#16) asking "which would you rather have?"

The search continues...

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Hi, Mr. Humble (may I call you Wick?):

We've been away from this site for awhile and just returned to find

your recent posts re: trying to find your old car, VIN# HLS30-03547.

I have records of the whereabouts and ownership of several thousand

240Z Datsuns. But sad to say, I show a huge gap between VIN

#03486 and #03598 (sorry for the abbreviations, Alan!). However,

as I continue to fill in the gaps from various sources, I'll certainly be

on the lookout for "your" #03547; and will definitely notify you if and

when I should happen to locate her.

I, too, would like to commend you most heartily for your wonderful

book. While I have not yet undertaken a restoration per se (only a

"refreshing,") still I consider the book a valuable asset in my collection

of Z Car books and memorabilia of various types. Thank you for all

the hard work you must have put into the book as well as the car!

All Z Best,..........................Kathy & Rick

Edited by Kathy & Rick

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A user of this forum called me with a current address in So Cal for my Z-Car 3547 (sorry if I slipped a cog on the exact VIN prefix -- its been a while!) and while I haven't tried to get in touch with the owner (yet) I sure do appreciate the tip!

My silver '71 (HLS3025906, by the way) is progressing; deep into ironing out the 40-year old Nissan tin. My '70 hadn't many issues, and virtually zilch rust, thank goodness! This one is going to have Tokiko springs and struts, Suspension Techniques bars, L28 rebuilt by Steve Pettersen Motorworks of Chico, steel-synchro 5-speed and trick clutch, Konig 15" spokers from MSA, Toyota 4-piston front and ZX rear calipers, Turbo oil cooler, Fairlady grille, Euro signals, and later buckets in black leather, four-point belts, polished Diesel cam cover, Hobrecht roll-bar, eventually A/C, lots of sound-proofing, and more.

Steve is my local connection, and a Z-Guru for Nor Cal folks. He shares his neat shop with me for major surgeries; echoing Mark Twain on Charles ****ens "He knows all there is to know (about Z's) and I know all the rest!" If you took the late, great "Z-Car Magazine" -- of which I was Restoration Editor -- you met Steve in our S30 article about ten years ago. He's building the ultimate '432' S-30 car, and has his own 'dream garage' locally.

I also have two '65 NL320 'Sports Pickups" (properly Datsun Commercial Cars), a red 'barn find' that is a fun driver and pretty original, and a black (no kidding, from the factory!) roached one that will probably be re-done by my son-in-law, before I'm too old to help -- L20B, 5-speeder, etc. The 'unibody' 320 was the Datsun that originally got me interested in the marque back in '63; I'd been doing '55-57 Chevies and flatmotor Fords previosly. They are a neat little rig, and get tons of good notice from other drivers, but the column 4-speed is a pain, believe me!

THANK YOU for the wonderful feed back on "How To Restore Your Datsun Z-Car", it sure picked up my ego! It was a labor of love, and I wish the photos had been better quality, but I was learning! My Editor, Tom Monroe, was a great help, and made sure the Nissan parts book drawings got included; even helps me! The late "California Bill" Fisher (also Fisher Books and HP Books) was a great Z fan, and the Fisher family is still great to be associated with. By the way, I no longer wear my hair that style (c. 1985) because I don't have much of it left!

FYI: I'm going to sell my daily driver '71 Mercedes 230 sedan (the infamous ":stupid::stupid::stupid::stupid:BenZ") with personally installed L28 and 5-speed, Alurad 15" mags, etc. this spring -- gotta get that Z painted!!

Hope to see some of you by next summer, and "Happy Z Trails"!

Wick Humble

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