Carl Beck

I beg to differ. Cause and Effect at play in this case. The Cause: Nissan sent two different models of the Datsun 240Z to North America and sold them both as 1971 Model Year vehicles in calendar year's 1970 and 1971. This was NOT normal practice in North America. The Effect: Series I / Series II is the direct effect of the consumer confusion caused by Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. “Which 1971 240Z Do You Have?” That was one of the first questions prospective buyers had to ask of the seller back in the mid 1970's, when they saw a "1971 Datsun 240Z" advertised for sale in classified Ad's. We still see people asking “is my 240Z a 70 or a 71?" today 50+ years later. If anything, the need for a term that would clearly identify which 1971 Datsun 240Z was being offered For Sale - was lessoned during the internet age. Because then seller could easily provide clear pictures with the Ad. and potential buyer would know which 1971 was being offered.

Does this count as "A Z Car In A Movie"? Tom Cruise isn't quite Steve McQueen yet... so it will be interesting to see what premium a direct association with Tom Cruise is worth. Anything directly associated with Steve McQueen seems to carry a 10x premium... 10 or 20 years from now with a different generation buying - Tom Cruise may be assigned the same premium... $50K car today might be a $500K car ten to twenty years later....

Hi Zedyone - -WOW! "Subsystem Manager for Propulsion” on the Artemis Crew module (that is still Orion right?) . Congratulations: that is a huge vote of confidence from both your Technical and Management chains. I’m sure you will do an outstanding job. (although it can come with an increased level of stress). Also great write-up on keeping that 53 year old Z on the road. Lots of useful information there for all of us.

Another link - some amazing Z's... https://www.mecum.com/videos/the-st-yves-datsun-nissan-collection-mecum-kissimmee-2024/?fbclid=IwAR0QDyChMOcEkXUzE7oQyUJQH6eceyWdy7AohIJ8Du-73GRTBOiPmWHjfe8

Any known history? Carl

That is a very strong offer - and looking forward I don't see the market getting stronger any time soon.

Has anyone been watching Hagerty Auctions? https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/hGKn8rHytYkjYUULAJlnh?fbclid=IwAR0MD8_76rmoDK-kIyAPyuPwq4adRbQQ1efNcrX70h6a0GXZ9meozisyOgQ

A 1972 sold for $25,500.00 on BAT - in better shape - although it is an A/T. This 71 is going to need a repaint and new Dash, seats etc. etc... In todays market I'd say this 71 should be closer to the $18K to $20K range. 18 months ago it would have been snapped up at $25K... not today... https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-datsun-240z-283/

You could have bought it last week - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-datsun-260z-race-car/

EBay - 22 Oct. 2022 - - asking $149,000.00 bid to $50K RNM Actually looks pretty nice - just non-numbers matching...

Coming up at Mecum: Fast Z ? https://www.mecum.com/lots/1093787/1971-datsun-240z-custom-roadster/

Hi Roo Question: - - 58.674 bhp - - per what? What is "aero power" or how does that relate to engine HP? thanks, Carl

If you are in the area... https://www.ararityauctions.com/auctions/1189379383/barn-find-1971-datsun-240z

I believe that they caused vibrations only in a specific RPM range - AIR the test team driver said he needed to maintain a certain specific higher speed range long enough for the vibration to show up and get worse. Slower or faster was not a problem.

Hi Kats: As I understand it: GT Class is Grand Touring Sports Class “F” Engine Size is: 123 CID (2015.61cc) to 183 CID (2998.83 cc) 152.134 mph 1972 (L24 BRE Front Spook and Rear Spoiler) 166.037 mph 1976 (L28 G Nose with chin spoiler) 168.721 mph 1985 (308QV Ferrari) 172.974 mph 2010 (L28 - Rebello 3.0L - slight body rake) Between 152 mph and 166 mph two things changed. 1) L24 to L28 and 2) BRE/Spook/spoiler changed to G Nose. I have to think that the L28 accounted for the additional speed. A Wild Guess - about setting the Z on blocks: There could be a significant difference between the Wind Tunnel in Japan 1971 and the one used by HybridZ in 2008 was it? The Wind Tunnel in Japan may have had a limited number of sensors spaced in the floor - so the Z there was set on blocks - on the sensors. The Wind Tunnel used by HybridZ has sensors more easily movable / or more of them in the floor - so the tires could set directly on them.

@SpeedRooThanks - the old links in my bookmarks wouldn't load.... so I used the image I had saved at the time.

THANKS - Last sold on BAT - 15 July 2023 for $39,250.00.

Wonder what the VIN is on that 73.

The test data from HybridZ... the numbers for a stock Z (test #2) Cd /CL etc are pretty close to what Kats Posted.

With the rust in the roof and the patched-up floorboards - given the last two or thee months of market pricing - I was surprised it sold for over $18K.

OOps.. MY Bad! Thanks for the correction - 03 it would be..

Per the TSB - the change over from Yellow to White was at HLS30 31643. That would have been an 05/71 Date of Mfg.

This "seems" like it would be a reasonable buy - if you are close it might be worth taking a look. https://www.ebay.com/itm/325567090216

It is a lot of money for the school and a little bit for the Datsun. Several people contributed directly to the school as well.

The VIN stamped on the Firewall was HLS30 14160 - The first series of chassis serial numbers ran up at least HLS30 20533. The second series of chassis serial numbers (aka Series II) started at HLS30 21001.