Carl Beck

Have you been under the car, and inspected the entire exhaust system for leaks? That should be done carefully every year at least. FWIW, Carl B.

HLS30 141309 would be 240Z built 01/73 nice job...

On 26-07-05, the Z Car Club of England you wrote: Hi Alan: In an attempt to arrive at the number of JDM Nissan Fairlady 240-Z's produced and sold in Japan, I subtracted the beginning of each range, from the end of each range, for each calendar year for the JDM. 1971 10436 - 10001 =435 1972 012045 - 010437 = 1608 and 100800-100001= 788 1973 101537-100801 = 736 103263-102001 = 1261 Total = 4828 units produced, if all assigned VIN's from each block of reported numbers were used. I was originally under the impression that you were saying all of the above units were the JDM Nissan Fairlady 240-Z's, and thus 4828 of them were sold in Japan. However checking the VIN's from Australia and GB I see cars with VIN's in the above ranges. So the above ranges must represent something other than, or more inclusive than. just the JDM HS units, yet the ranges are not nearly broad enough to cover the HS Export units. Have you found any farther information related to the production numbers or VIN's related to the JDM HS series cars 71-73? Or was I misunderstanding what you were trying to indicate with the VIN ranges you quoted? thanks, Carl

I didn't see it mentioned... but installing new hatch seals won't necessarily result in a seal being formed between the hatch lid and the body of the car. You have to assure that the hatch is properly adjusted so that it does in fact compress the rubber seals on all surfaces. I usually put a dollar bill between the hatch seals and the hatch lid ... close the hatch lid - then pull on the dollar bill to see if it's held firmly in place, or if it isn't. If it isn't, you can still get exhaust gases sucked in through the gap... even if it is water tight... FWIW, Carl B.

The last one I ordered from Courtesy Nissan - they had in stock and I had it in a couple days.. <a href=http://courtesyparts.com/ TARGET=NEW> Courtesy Parts Dept.</a> They may still have one... FWIW, Carl B.

Speaking of "green"...I ordered a new hard line for the clutch hydralic system for my 73 240-Z. The Nissan replacement part was coated with a green coating of some kind. Not the usually Yellow Cad plating... I checked with another owner of a 73 and he said he got the same part... with the same green a year or two earlier... Just though it was odd... anyone else have any experiences like that with any other parts? Carl B.

Yes Alan, but a few of the Nissans were not Datsuns...

Flat... hummm Well actually it is not flat... it curves over the body line of the Z - righ tto left. Front to Rear of course it follows the body line, so it sits at the angle it's supposed to. There are too flat spots if you will, in which studs are mounted - these go though the deck lid - and are secured by nuts from the underside. Nonetheless - it's fiberglass - and you can easily cut/mold it any way you want... FWIW, Carl B.

I can see how that statement might be misleading to someone... To the best of my knowledge no NISSAN 240Z'S {aka Nissan Fairlady 240Z} were restored/refreshed/remanufactured etc - there were about 38 DATSUN 240-Z's completed under the Vintage Z Program however. Carl B.

Hi DaveN: An additional data point or two... Did you know George Panko II and/or Rick Morgan? Rick is said to have purchased #13 out of South Carolina in 76.. But have never been able to track him down.. FWIW, Carl B.

HI Dave: Welcome to the group. Would you happen to have any pictures of the VIN on the Dash, or the Door Jam data plate, or the Engine compartment Data Plate showing s/n 00013? A copy of the original title...maybe? The name of the collector that purchased it maybe? If it was rescued from a Salvage Yard in NJ - did it have to be retitled with a NJ Salvage Title? Hope you will forgive me, but so far I've heard from at least three different people who claim to have had HLS30 00013, but so far nothing but stories. I don't doubt anyone's word - just their memories. A couple times we tracked the cars down to find HLS30 10013 and HLS30 1000013. I'd really be interested in finding some verfication that the car was actually sold to the public. At present the lowest VIN sold to the public here in North America has been HLS30 00016 located in Lutz, Florida. Any input appreciated. Carl B.

Ah... time for my Firestone Forever Battery story.... Back in 1975 I was working for a Firestone Dealer (another long story)... and I needed a new battery for the Z. So I bought a Firestone Forever... the best they offered at the time... My employee price was around $24.00 then...(for a 69.97 battery). Since that time, Firestone had replaced that battery free of charge about every 4 years....As I added more cars to the collection I tired of finding them with dead batteries every time I decided to drive one.. so around 1995, I bought several Battery Minder's.... smart trickle chargers... and hooked them all up when the cars were parked in the garage.. When kept on the Battery Minders... the Firestone Forever's lasted an average of 6.5 years... as are most of the batteries in the other cars now.. I had to have the Firestone Forever replaced a couple years ago.... So I took the battery into the local Firestone Store, the counterman looked up the new replacement battery, then went and got one out of stock. Sitting it on the counter, he said "that will be $79.95 plus $5.59 sales tax and $5.00 Battery disposal fee - $90.54." I said, "no, that is a Forever Replacement and it is free". I then dug out my paperwork to show him the words "Forever" on the invoices and guarantee. The counterman said he had never seen anything like that... so he went to get the Store Manager. The Store Manager knew what it was - but said he hadn't see one in years... So he started looking through the computer screens, to see if he could find the proper codes to charge the battery out of stock to... Finally he found them.. still on-line, still being honored... I wonder what will happen the next time I have to replace it... At any rate, if your car sits for prolonged periods I'd highly recommend hooking the battery up to a good smart trickle charger... the car will start when you are ready and the battery will last for many additional years... There are many others and you can shop the web for the best pricing, but I've been very happy with <a href=http://www.thebatteryminder.com/ TARGET=NEW> the BatteryMINDer </a> Check Standard Battery Chargers - 12V-1.33A BatteryMINDer They do more than just trickle charge.. and won't overcharge. No need to remove the battery if the car is garage kept, just plug in the trickle charger. Of course none of this negates the requirement for clean, tight battery terminals... I switched to Gold Plated terminals years ago - and have not had a problem since... FWIW, Carl B.

Looking at the junk that gone though E-Bay lately, and seeing the prices they bring... this one is at least $3K to $4K underpriced.... may scare potential buyers away, because they will wonder why it's so cheap... Good Paint Job.... $5K Interior Parts..... $1K Ext. Badges .5K New Seals........... .5K D-Hubcaps .5K Struts/springs .5K Bumpers....... 1K sub-tot = $9K And I'd bet he has more than $14K in it not counting the car.. Which means your paying about $2,500.00 for a solid 71 240-Z.... and doing NONE of the work FWIW, Carl B.

They look to be about 14 or 15... otherwise they would be driving not walking... Can you make it to the Ferrari Factory? FWIW, Carl B.

The L24, L26 and L28 are all the same size. The L26 has a longer stroke, that yields about 200 additional cc's in total displacement. The L24 and L26 block were the same when new, with the exception that the L26 had reliefs cut in the tops of the cylinder walls to allow larger diameter valves to be used with the same bore as the L24. The L28 has a larger bore, in addition to the longer stroke of the L26. The larger bore yields about 200 additional cc's in total displacement over the L26. FWIW, Carl B.

Yes- the N42 head breaths better than the stock E88 on the L26, additionally the N42 has a far better combustion chamber design for performance. Add a few hundred extra cc's and the L28 will have significantly more torque and power. That depends to a great extent on what you plan to use the car for - and how much money you want to spend, both in terms of the costs of modifications and in terms of the costs of depriciated market value when/if you ever try to resell the 260-Z. You can expect a significant boost in torque and hp... {if both engines are factory stock to begin with, and the L28 is a good running engine to begin with} FWIW, Carl B.

Hi Nissanman: That's funny - I sold about 10 Datsun 510's brand new in Jan. of 71! I sure wish I had kept one for myself. Love what you've done with yours. I just bought a 72 PL510 Station Wagon... pretty clean for it's age and still stock. I may leave it that way for a while and just enjoy driving it for a while. It could use a bit more horsepower and the suspension would benefit from a slight upgrade.... maybe later..... FWIW, Carl B.

Hi Gary: Thanks for the travel log - take plenty of pictures.. It would be surprising to see many Datsuns or Older Nissans in Europe from the 60's, 70's 80's or even 90's. Europe's EEU and GB, just finally dropped their protective trade tariffs carried over from WW-II around 2002. Nissan Motors had built some production plants there in an effort to gain entry into those markets and the tie up with Renault now should result far greater European market sales in the coming years. {at least Carlos is counting on that}. FWIW, Carl B.

Hi Bruce: The problem your having with the seat belts is common. They have just been sitting too long without use / adjustment. The little roller gets sticky and freezes in place, and the webbing on the seat belts gets stiff and set in its way... You just have to tug, pull, work side to side on the belt... and they will break lose and start to move through the adjustment range again. You have to hold the buckle at a 90 angle from the belt... than pull like crazy on the buckle, working it side to side... Looks like the belts are in good condition... As long as you are the only or main driver - I think you'll learn to like the non-self adjusting belts - you can draw them down tighter and they help hold you in place. Just be sure that the buckle doesn't drop out the door as you exit the car... If it does and you slam the door on it - it can leave a chip in the paint on the drivers door jam.... FWIW, Carl B.

Ah... thanks Trevor.. I knew I had read that somewhere before.... Carl B.

Hi Chris: Yes - I just wondered where the Dealer found it - I doubt he worte it himself. I thought perhaps you might have ran across the original writting in your research on the VZ's. Carl B.

Hi Alan: That is truly, just too funny.... several "crack teams" come to mind, that I would enjoy seeing.... Hi Will: Our exchange reminds me of the off quoted: "I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." ..... back to work... Carl B.

Chris: Can you tell us where the following statement came from? "1971 Datsun 240Z Restored by Nissan Motor Company On May 3rd at the U.S. Headquarters of Nissan Motors in Gardena, CA they introduced the first of the factory-refurbished 240 Z's. Introduced in 1970 the sticker price of a New 240Z was $3,526, the refurbished Z's will run $24,950. The cars, 200 of them, are being done by Pierre'Z Service Center in Southern CA. And will be sold through 10 Nissan dealers designated as "Z Stores". After the Z's were selected from across the country (many came from Arizona and areas similar due to the more rust free condition) they are fully disassembled, then each part is inspected and inventoried. The unibody is inspected, repaired if necessary and then dipped and painted. From there any parts needing replaced are ordered (yes they have access to parts we don't). Everything is kept as original with the exception of tires, (hard to find the original size) and a few other suspension parts (busings, struts). The other difference is a small sticker on the quarter window and an emblem on the center console designating it as an official Nissan refurbished Z. Nissan cut the restorations off after about 40 cars were completed. Short of their initial goal of 200 they still definatly managed to remind people of the part that the 240Z played in automotive history." Just wondered where the Dealer quoted this from... Carl B.

Hi Will: I think I understand what you are saying - but I an lead to believe that you are off on a tangent. An argument that involves the proper or improper use of a common noun in a sentence structure. Or is it an argument that involves the possibility that any specific individual, might draw his or her own inferences from a sentence, when they define a common noun themselves, rather than drawing that definition from the context of the sentence, or paragraph within which it is used. {as common nouns are supposed to be defined} Somewhat like arguing that the Ford 40-GT Program was not a Factory Program because none of them were build in a Ford Plant. Or that Nissan Factory Service Manuals aren't really Nissan Factory manuals because none of them were printed in Nissan's plants, let alone its manufacturing factories. The use of the common noun "Factory", as a substitute to avoid the repetitious use of a proper noun such as "Nissan Motors", "Ford", "GM" etc - - is perfectly acceptable, broadly used by writers of all kinds and normally understood by the readers. ""Was the "Nissan Vintage Z Program" - a Factory Program? It most certainly was. ..." Because the word Factory in the preceding sentence is a common noun, and the common noun is defined in the context of the sentence.... and the context of the sentence is "Nissan Vintage Z Program"... I seriously doubt that most enthusiasts would think that was a reference to some single production plant in Japan ie. a factory or the factory, rather than Nissan Motors Ltd. If on the other hand - you take the word Factory completely out of the context of the sentence it was used in, therefore leaving its proper definition behind - - and instead substitute some other definition, or your own context such as "ask any Nissan factory employee"... then you can and do make all the counterpoints and arguments you just made. The problem is - you have simply shown that the definition of a common noun is intended to be, and should in fact be defined by the context of the sentence or paragraph within which it is used. Nonetheless, the Nissan Vintage Z Program was in fact a Factory Program, proven by the fact that it was the Nissan Vintage Z Program.... and was never referred to as the Nissan Shatai Koki Factory Program, nor the Nissan Shatai Koki, Kyoto nor Hiratsuka Factory Program etc. The bottom line is - one should not substitute one's personal definition of a common noun, for the definition provided by the context of the writing within which that common noun is used. Doing so might lead to massive personal confusion almost anytime common nouns are encountered. FWIW, Carl B.

Hi Art: The RD-150's were 175HR14's and found by their Original Owners - on 240-Z's in America with build dates between 10/71 and 06/72. But that range isn't absolute... what is the date of manufacture on the rim? For the most part - only people attempting to restore a 240-Z to "as it left the factory" are in need of fine examples of these early tires. The cars will only be rolled on/off the trailers at shows with them.. so appearance is all that really matters to them. Door panels, round top SU's and TAIL LIGHTS in excellent condition! Wow the Jackpot!! Someone will simply have to reproduce the chrome strips for the tail lights soon... or Nissan will have to have another production run by the OEM's...