AZ-240z

While we are talking about original interiors, this may not be the correct place, but I would like to ask if anyone has a real nice drivers side vinyl interior threshold trim piece for my series 1 that they would consider selling to me? I have found a NOS piece, would you believe, for the passenger side and am having little success finding the other side in equally nice condition. I thought that someone may have removed one after upgrading there interior, possibly, so just thought I would ask. Thanks. Dan

Hello Carl, Joseph, I couldn't agree more with your reasoning concerning not using screws to help secure door panels, Carl. I just am trying to justify seeing at least 4 or 5 1970 cars with chrome phillips head screws in the same location, ie., either side of the door latch, on both doors. Joseph, I did find the reference in Wick Humble's book, in the upper left column on page 167. This even confuses to issue more, as the quote in his book concerning reinstalling door trim panels is "Early Zs have a chrome phillips head screw and clear-plastic trim washer to secure the lower corner at the rear". Now, this flies in the face of what I have observed, but would indicate that screws were, indeed, used to help secure door trims. Wow, I just found the picture you were talking about, Joseph. It is on page 62 of Wick's book, lower left. His car has two phillips head screws and finish washers on either side of the door latch. For reasons Carl gave, these may have only been used on early production series 1 cars before being discontinued. Dan

Chris If I am able to get a good set of these cushion guards, and Keith doesn't mind, I may look into having these reproduced. It would, obviously, depend on cost of reproduction, and demand, as Keith mentioned. Have you looked into approx costs for this type of fabrications, Chris? As mentioned in another thread, I have also reproduced several decals for the series 1 cars which are available to anyone interested. I do enjoy doing this, as it gets me parts that I need, and, providing them for other restorers so I can recoup my costs. It would be great if the demand was high enough to do these guards. Dan

I found, on the "ZCar CD", in the L26, L28E sub-section of the Body section, page 143-4, item #s 66 & 67, the screw and finish washers used on the rear hatch interior panel. I don't know if the 260 or 280 Z had these, or are just in the wrong place on the CD. I could find no reference to there use on the door panels, though. Thanks Chris and Keith, for the info. I am slowly closing in on the truth.

Fred, Arne, Chris, Thanks for getting back to me with these replys. I hate to put holes in my door panels without being 100% certain that hls30-20419 had these screws originally. I may have snagged a pair of the seat cushion guards and would love to have these on my car if it was possibly original to my car. Some of my confusion comes from the fact that I am almost certain that the inside rear hatch plastic panel had four of these phillips head screws, so why not the door panels.

I have a couple of questions for those with good knowledge of these early cars. First, I have noticed on a few 1970 cars, that the interior door panels have a couple of chromed phillips heat screws with finish washers which help attach the panels to the inside door frame, and are located on either side of the door release latch at the bottom of each door. Can anyone confirm that these are a stock items, and, if so, which vin #s would apply? Also, apparently some early series 1 cars had a black plastic seat cushion guard located at the forward, outside edge of the seat cushions, and attached with machine screws beneath the seat to the seat frames. Does anyone have a very early parts book which would have the part numbers for these guards and the attachment hardware? Any help would be appreciated? Although I am the original owner of this car, I am afraid my long term memory is a little cloudy on some of these original items. My car has morphed through many changes, and now is going back to, hopefully, 100% original. Thanks for any thoughts. This club, I believe, has the best concentration of the most knowledgable Z fans on the web. Dan hls30-20419

Montoya fan01 You got it right. I have reproduction decals for the early series 1 cars, and Dogma is considering making decals for the cars that had the cross indentation in the dash to the left of the hazzard switch. As far as I have been able to research, the decal shown by Arne was on all series 1 cars through 1/71 production dates. I have seen original cars with vins of 5xxx and 12xxx with this decal. My car produced in 1/71 also had the decal. I realize that I am making an assumption base of the above info but maybe others will chime in to better define the use of this decal. Dan

I just got a new computer. It needs to be hooked up to a local cable provider, and I need to become computer literate as far as posting pictures. What I guess I am saying is that it is going to be possible a week or so before I can show what I have. Thanks for your inquiries and patients, and I'll keep everyone posted. Dan

dogma420, I apologize for muscling in on your thread with the decals which I reproduced for the early 240z. This has, possibly, led to some confusion about which decal is referenced in some replys. These are two different decals for early and later cars. I just thought it would be easier to lump this purpose specific decal in the same thread for ease of reference in the future. Let me know if I should start a new thread if I am infringing. They are two distinctly different decals. Dan

If anyone is interested, I have reproduced the hazard switch decal as shown by Arne, above. It is an exact quality reproduction on vinyl. If $10 sounds fair to anyone interested, let me know. This decal was found on series 1 cars and the decal placement can be seen in Arne's reply. Dan

Chris, or anyone. Do you happen to know how long the plastic seat cushion guards were used on series 1 seats? Would they have been correct up through 12/70 cars? Dan

Hi Guys, Thought I would jump in with some know info. I am the original owner of a 1/71 240z, and it came off the showroom with the seat mounted smaller shoulder J-hooks. As my car was one of the very last series 1 cars, I would assume that all series 1 cars came this way. Hope this helps. I would be happy to provide any further info. Dan

Lance I purchased a bag of ten of those cups maybe 8 months ago from Nissan. I believe the part number is 80929 - 32200. They probably also have the clips that slip into those cups. The part Number for the clips is 80919 - 22500. I don't know what I would do without my club parts CD. Good luck. Dan

Bob, Ed Thanks for the ideas. I was thinking along similar lines in both cases. I Have a third, newer visor that I think I will experiment on, and disect it, first, using Bob's approach of opening up one end to get frame and padding out. I was thinking, after opening up the seam, I could glue strips of similar vinyl to the inside edge of both sides of the open seam, and once I had replaced the padding and frame, use those extended seam edges to glue the seam shut. I could, then, trim off the added vinyl strips, but they would give me material to handle in make the closure of the seam. Maybe even use a soldering iron with a wire tip to fuse the seam shut. Am I making any sense with this idea? Since the vinyl has already stretched with years of heat exposure, it will probably give me a little extra material to make the closure. It helps a lot, Bob, to now know what makes up the inside of these, as I plan the best way to get them open. Thanks. Any other thoughts out there? I think that this can be done with good results, but I will let you know. Dan

I just bought a pair of original. early 240z sunvisors. After 30+ years of sun exposure, the padding inside has, of course, sagged and pulled them out of shape, but the material and everything else is in great shape. Has anyone thought of, or attempted to open these up some way to replace the inner padding? Any good ideas how one might attempt to do this and then close them back up to look new, again? Thils club has a good collective brain trust, so I appreciate any ideas you may come up with. I'm one of those restore to original guys, but this might be a bit too optimistic to think that this could be done with good results. Thanks for your thoughts. Dan Original owner, hls30-20419 1/71 240Z IZCC# 12324

Mike, The clear washer looks good. The bottom of the washer is flat, and the top is rounded off on the outside and inside edges, like an upside down U shape. The screws are black oval countersunk phillips heads and are about 1/2 inch long. Hope that helps if you are going for total originality. I know, I'm a purist geek. Dan

Mike, If those clips are about 1 and 3/4 inches long, and they appear to be, they do mount in the lower quarter window holes with a machine screw. Check 26th-Z's post above for the site reference for a picture of the clear washer and screw. Dan

26th-Z Did you happen to check to part # stampings on your alternators. Could you PM me if you have a minute. Thanks. Dan

Hi Mike, First, tell me what the production date is for your car. Is it a series 1 with the vents in the rear hatch? Next, how long are the seat belt hooks? There were two different kinds, one kind that mounted on the seat back outside edge were about 1 and 1/4 inches long were for series 1 cars. The other, about 1 and 3/4 inches long for the series 11 cars were mounted with a screw in the lower quarter window hole you spoke of. The middle hole in the quarter window trim was for a screw and clear plastic washer that helped secure the trim. Let me know which car you have and I'll try to help clarify what I have just said, if needed. Dan Original owner HLS30-20419 1/71 240Z IZCC #12324

Hello all, I guess I'll put my two cents worth in, and echo deadflo's data. I am the original owner of hls30-20419 with a build date of 1/71. The engine # is L24 - 027116, the block is cast P30 with the code adjacent to the P30 of 1616L. I hope someone eventually breaks this code; I am intrigued with what Kats, Carl, and all have to say in deciphering it. Great thread. Dan IZCC# 12324

Hi Bob M, I'll probably get slammed by someone with more knowledge, but, for early 69, 70, & 71 z's, only a few were delivery in North America with splash pans. The vast majority came without pans and rad. fan shrouds. I believe, when A/C was factory installed in 73 cars, fan shrouds and splash pans were somewhat standard, for better engine cooling air flow control. There is probably more accurate info if you check out the search function for past threads. Hope that helps. Dan

Hi Joseph, Sorry I didn't see your reply sooner. I am certain the early 240 had 5mm shafts and 8mm wrench heads. I really haven't seen those, but the 280 machine screws have a hex head with phillips cross slot, and the finish appears to be a clear or silver cad plate. I am assuming that those for the early 240 are very similar. I've checked with nissan and they have not found any similar in that size. They also have a flat washer that is permanently attached , or fender washer. If I have any success, I will get back to this thread. Dan

Hey Robert Not crazy, just addicted. I hope to finally make a meeting. I'll let you know. I may be wrong, but the screws for a 280 splash pan I believe are 6mm with a 10mm head. for some reason, they changed sizes, but I could be wrong. I would certainly like to see what you have though. Dan

I need a little help. I have a series 1 made in 1/71 and have the splash pan, but need the original machine screws which have 5mm shafts, 1.0 pitch, and 8mm head. There are nine screws. Anyone have a spare set they are willing to sell? It's the little stuff thats a bear to find. Thanks for any help. Dan Original owner, 240Z hls30-20419 IZCC# 12324

Thanks Bob, That was my thinking on the black color shades. I am concentrating on the list of dings from last years show. Got the stock exhaust to install, metal rad fan and fan clutch which I am restoring, looking for jute source for carpet insulation, 40 amp alternator, and the list goes on. Stock class is nuts, but a fun challenge. I'm aiming for Texas in 2006. Dan