HS30-H

Carl, You used the 'F' word.... What happened to your car when the 'shocks' were sent back to the Factory those three times ( was it sitting on chassis stands? ) and how long did it take for the USA-Japan-USA turnaround?

I have absolutely no problem with replicas, lookalikes, 'tribute' cars - whatever we want to call them ( I'm building a 432-R replica / lookalike myself.... ) - as long as they are correctly represented. The problems come about when people start thinking they are the real thing, and using them as datum points to judge others - sometimes, ironically enough, including the real thing - and getting it all wrong. Having said that, I don't know if there's some element of Lost in Translation involved in the story of the car in Thailand. The owner might not be calling it The Real Thing at all for all I know. It might be that the 7Tune guy got the wrong end of the stick. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt on that. The bigger problem is that getting it all wrong is a trait seen all too often on the like of 7Tune, Speedhunters and the others. These blogs have incredible power and are very influential. The stuff they publish spreads around the 'net like wildfire, and when it's wrong - as it so often is on obscure topics like the 432-R - it sticks. Even when you point out the mistakes, and if they allow them to stay in the comments section, people don't pay any attention or simply re-blog bowdlerised versions of the original. This is how the world will end, I reckon. Sisyphus had it easy, I tell you..... No, just the plain vanilla R192 ( R190 ) flat alloy cover, same as the 432. Easier to replicate... !

Did you read the comments on the 7tune article? I don't belive that car is a genuine factory built PS30-SB Fairlady Z432-R. In any case, it hasn't been 'restored', it has been customised.......

Carl, You could have had a great career in the field of statistics...

Thanks......

Well, as I'm most certainly not in NorthCoast, Ohio, I could say that I don't care what you call your cars there either. But that would be stupid, wouldn't it? So I won't..... What matters is what Nissan themselves called the cars, and that is something that you should certainly take notice of. Oh, it was a joke.....!?! CLANG! :stupid:

I'm sure you did ( and he was - of course - quite right ) but if he had even one tenth of the influence that people attribute to him, then he would have made sure that it happened. Instead, the market that he was responsible for got saddled with a four-speed trans and a 3.364:1 diff ratio...... More muddle-headed nonsense. You're forgetting ( of just ignorant of ) the fact that Japanese market models never got the 'X' tagged on to their model names. So, by your definition, a 1979 'Fairlady 280Z' is a Z, but a 1979 'Datsun 280ZX' is not...... :stupid: Ye Gods.......

....... and I'm picking you up on your "the creator" comment, which you made - yes - on this thread.

In what way would him being "behind and in front of the S30 marketing" ( even if that were completely true... ) make him the car's "creator"? Same goes for the 510 too. I notice he has never seemed to get himself too closely connected with the large numbers of other little sedans and pickup trucks sold during the same period. Maybe their paint wasn't shiny enough for him to see his reflection in it?

Three scans from the ( universal ) fitting instruction booklet that came with the 9200: P1 lists the parts included in the kit, P3 shows a basic wiring schematic and P7 shows the specific wiring at the ignition coil which should apply to your car. You can ignore the mentions of a 'Full Transistor' unit, as these apply to cars that were fitted with the Mitsubishi transistor ignition system from the factory ( ie S20 engined in this case ).

"...his creation..." Was that your interpretation, or was it that of the interviewer?

OK, I will scan the relevant page from the fitting instructions and post it up here with some notes. Bear with me.....

I have an NOS full 9200 CDI kit in the box with original instruction manual / wiring diagrams. It's not exactly the same, but the 9200 was essentially an updated 9100 so it should be very similar installation. What L24 do you plan to install it on? Have you got the full kit with the sub harness and all connectors? I'll scan the appropriate page from the fitting instructions if you can tell me what car type you are going to use it on. And - seeing as this is essentially a 40 year old piece of electrickery, are you sure that it actually works...?

Just to clarify what I'm talking about, mounts for speakers were designed and engineered into both left and right sides, and the perforations for the speakers ( as opposed to the higher up and further forward perforations for the quarter panel vents ) were on both sides accordingly. From the attached factory parts list illustration: KEY NO. 13 27340-E4125 KIT-SPEAKER ( RADIO AM 5 BUTTAN [sic]) 29240-E4225 KIT-SPEAKER RH ( AM 8TR STEREO ) 29240-E4125 KIT-SPEAKER LH ( AM 8TR STEREO )

Markets other than the USA / North American market got the option of a Stereo AM-FM radio ( and Stereo 8-track player ) as extra cost showroom 'Factory' options, and these cars - of course - got two rear speakers. That's why your car has speaker mounting points and the perforations in the rear trim panels on both sides, despite the fact that it only ever had one speaker. The bodyshell and the rear trim panels catered for both possibilities, like so many other details on our cars..... Alan T.

Never seen any of the YSE style in the UK, but I've seen a few sets in Japan. They look good on 60s-era cars, but need an old fashioned tall sidewall to make them look 'right' in my opinion. Should suit your Roadster.

They are Almex 'YSE' wheels, and maybe not quite as old as you think. The attached catalogue / list scans date from 1978:

Fred, The L24 engined Z models were introduced in October 1971 and dropped from late 1973 onwards in the Japanese market. Nissan tried the L26 in a few Z cars ( 'Fairlady 260Z' ) for the Japanese market at the end of 1973, but they struggled to pass new emissions standards at the same time as running well with aircon, and were all recalled. So basically the Japanese market only had L20A / L20AE engined S30 and S31-series Zs from late 1973 right up until the debut of the S130-series Z in 1978. The car above would definitely have left the factory with a two litre 'L20AE' engine.

The car looks really nice and I'm sure there's an interesting story behind it being first sold in 1981 despite having been built in 1977, but why does the card say it has an "original" 2400cc engine? It would have left the factory with an L20AE.

Just to point out that the auction is for a pair of the SOLID rotor type MK63 calipers, as distinct from the VENTED rotor type ( wider caliper spacing, different castings ). If you are going to the bother, you might as well go for the VENTED type, which are much more effective and less prone to fade due to heat build-up. You'd almost certainly need to rebuild the used calipers with a new rubber & seal kit, and you might expect to find that the pistons will be slightly rust pitted at best, and completely U/S at worst.

That's the No.19 Fairlady Z432-R of Hiromi NISHINO and Koji FUJITA, refuelling at the 'All Japan Suzuka 1000km' race on 24th May 1970. They went on to win the GT-II class and the race overall after covering 167 laps ( 1002kms ) in 7 hrs and 49 mins, in a field with 45 entries. This was the S30-series Z's third big win in Japanese domestic racing.

I've got to say, that looks just stunning. Like a piece of art. Gorgeous.

Nothing to do with Europe or European streets. As has already been pointed out, the 'Parking Lamp' switches and the system they controlled were primarily for the Japanese market.

Parking lamp switches operation image from the November 1969 'Z1' Service Shuho booklet for the Japanese market models:

Well, for the period I think is most relevant to 'concours' competition for Japanese cars outside Japan ( let's say something like the 1955 to 1975 period ) the revenue from domestic sales would far outweigh export sales. I don't want to appear rude, but have you got any idea just how big Nissan's presence in the Japanese market was? It was domestic sales that gave them any "kick start", and domestic sales far outweighed export sales for the period we are talking about. It should not, can not be underestimated. As for how that affects their concours judging outside Japan; I would say that if export markets never saw Japan's best and never realised their rightful position amongst their contemporaries, then they are never going to be judged fairly and equitably, let alone with any depth of knowledge.