November 4, 20231 yr Author comment_659051 Plugs 4, 5 and 6 rear carb at 3.5 turns clockwise Edited November 4, 20231 yr by jalexquijano Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67984-still-struggling-with-car-at-idle-after-8-years/?&page=28#findComment-659051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 4, 20231 yr comment_659053 We are starting to get there as far as plugs starting to look the same. Manual says 2-1/2 turns with 17 degrees advance. Lean them out just a little more and see how the car runs. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67984-still-struggling-with-car-at-idle-after-8-years/?&page=28#findComment-659053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 4, 20231 yr comment_659054 I have a vague memory of mentioning this in the past, but another reason for fouling plugs is oil. Bad oil rings or valve seals. Since you already have new seals, the only thing that's left is oil rings. On the plugs, pictures after they were cleaned but before they were used again would have been good. Can't tell how much of the brown is permanent staining. The residue around the edges of the plug body, end of the threads, looks pretty thick for such a short drive. Looks more like oil-fouling. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67984-still-struggling-with-car-at-idle-after-8-years/?&page=28#findComment-659054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 4, 20231 yr Author comment_659056 Next step??? Clean all plugs again or new set? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67984-still-struggling-with-car-at-idle-after-8-years/?&page=28#findComment-659056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 4, 20231 yr Author comment_659057 50 minutes ago, Zed Head said: I have a vague memory of mentioning this in the past, but another reason for fouling plugs is oil. Bad oil rings or valve seals. Since you already have new seals, the only thing that's left is oil rings. On the plugs, pictures after they were cleaned but before they were used again would have been good. Can't tell how much of the brown is permanent staining. The residue around the edges of the plug body, end of the threads, looks pretty thick for such a short drive. Looks more like oil-fouling. I only replaced valve seals in 4th cylinder. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67984-still-struggling-with-car-at-idle-after-8-years/?&page=28#findComment-659057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 4, 20231 yr comment_659061 I shudder when I think of the number of spark plugs you've bought over the last eight years but unless you can get them clean (snow-white porcelain) a new set will get a fresh reading (Deja Vu) and hopefully narrow this down to the fuel-air mixture or oil. Did the plugs start to load up when you were waiting for your roasted chicken lunch? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67984-still-struggling-with-car-at-idle-after-8-years/?&page=28#findComment-659061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 4, 20231 yr comment_659062 I agree, Cleaning with a brass brush will not get the job done. Clean the oil off. Sandpaper all the electrodes and you have a chance. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67984-still-struggling-with-car-at-idle-after-8-years/?&page=28#findComment-659062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 4, 20231 yr Author comment_659063 27 minutes ago, Mark Maras said: I shudder when I think of the number of spark plugs you've bought over the last eight years but unless you can get them clean (snow-white porcelain) a new set will get a fresh reading (Deja Vu) and hopefully narrow this down to the fuel-air mixture or oil. Did the plugs start to load up when you were waiting for your roasted chicken lunch? 1 minute ago, Yarb said: I agree, Cleaning with a brass brush will not get the job done. Clean the oil off. Sandpaper all the electrodes and you have a chance. Ok Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67984-still-struggling-with-car-at-idle-after-8-years/?&page=28#findComment-659063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 4, 20231 yr Author comment_659064 Remember rear carb is at 3.5 turns clockwise and front at 3.75 turns clockwise looking from top of the engine. Do you want me to reduce the mixture on the rear carb? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67984-still-struggling-with-car-at-idle-after-8-years/?&page=28#findComment-659064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 4, 20231 yr comment_659065 Lean that back carb out a bit more. Probably carbon. Should clean themselves up. Bump that timing up to 17 degrees. Makes a difference how it runs. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67984-still-struggling-with-car-at-idle-after-8-years/?&page=28#findComment-659065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 4, 20231 yr Author comment_659067 Its at 14 right now. Will i damage the engine increasing to 17 btdc? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67984-still-struggling-with-car-at-idle-after-8-years/?&page=28#findComment-659067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 7, 20231 yr Author comment_659129 On 11/4/2023 at 5:54 PM, gundee said: Lean that back carb out a bit more. Probably carbon. Should clean themselves up. Bump that timing up to 17 degrees. Makes a difference how it runs. Timing set to 17btdc, front carb set to 3.75 and rear carb lowered to 3.4 turns clockwise. Raced car on the highway 110 mph, few stops and couple of traffic light no longer than 1 minute idling. Plugs 1, 2, 3,4 and 5 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/67984-still-struggling-with-car-at-idle-after-8-years/?&page=28#findComment-659129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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