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1973 240Z Resto Mod for sale

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Well the time has come to call this one "done" and move on to another.  

I'm selling my 15 year ownership project Z to finance the next build. Don't call me crazy for selling it, I know what I'm doing. Ok, call me what you like, but don't call me Shirley. Do contact me at z240@shaw.ca for the quickest response or PM here.

To say it is heavily modified would be an understatement. I feel like I have done every standard and specialized mod I've ever heard of. Some 3 or 4 times, just for fun. The highlights are:

  • 3.1 classic stroker motor (N42/E88) with forged rod/piston combo. Currently Z Therapy SU fed, triple Mik 44's available. Sounds and feels like no other L6 I've ever driven. 
  • Late ZX 5 speed
  • 3.7 R200 Z31 turbo CLSD with Z31 CV's properly done, 3" alum driveshaft with Chev U-joints.
  • McKinney motor sport weld on coil overs, AZC adjustable control arms all around. 
  • 16x8 VTO alloys, Yoko S-Drive tires. Z31 vented rotor/Sw-8 Toy calipers up front, Mustang rear disks rear.  
  • Vintage Air AC.
  • Completely custom wiring, guages, dash, keyless, Stereo, LED lighting package, even a back up camera for God's sake.
  • Very very low rust stengthened chassis. Fresh paint in 2008 (Mitsu M08 code), Totally stripped and resealed with many layers of POR, sound deadening, and tough coatings.

Is it perfect? hell no. I actually drive this car and don't baby it. It has, shall we say, several minor visable "usage indicators". I'll share every detail of what it needs now and in the future, and every thing I can remember that I've done to it, good and bad. I've personally done every bit of the work to this car except paint. 

No surprises, no hidden demons. 

A blllion hours put into this car, and about the same $. Been at many shows, the car is very well known in Alberta and BC. References as to my Z skills and general demenour and trustworthyness available upon demand. I'm sure I can find someone around here to lie for me.   Asking $25K USD FIRM.  Recent BAT Z sales tell me this a pretty good number.       

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Gee, I have no pictures of the underside. Don't worry, it's lovely, really.

 

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Wow! If only I could swing another one right now! Gorgeous car, upstanding guy and meticulous restoration skills... buy with confidence

 

I'll PM you where to send the "reference" cheque Jim... :P

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Thanks for the kind words Mark. Cheque is written and waiting for you.

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Few other pictures I dug up.

With the current SU setup

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With the previous Triple 44's in place and my custom air box. Very drivable this way, just not as "nice" as with the SU's. You know what I'm talking about, such as 30 MPG vs 15MPG... 

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Here we are in San Diego ZCON 2014. See, I do drive it. And not just to the grocery store.

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2 minutes ago, madkaw said:

Everyone blames the bad MPG on the carbs - never the right foot


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Bingo!  It just feels so, GOOD!!!!!

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Interested in value of the 'resto mod' done tastefully . My 70 might go that direction since I don't have matching engine.

very nice car by the way!!

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I know all you guys have your project cars already and aren't likley to dump them to buy this one,  I just wanted to give you-all the chance to have a shot first. Maybe you know someone, maybe there is a lurker just waiting for a car to pop up.

I'll advertise it to the local Datsun heads here next by word of mouth and see what happens. Then maybe BAT.

 

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Any videos, or performance numbers?  I think that either of those would help sell it.  Interior pictures also.  Looks like a well-built car.

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12 minutes ago, Zed Head said:

Any videos, or performance numbers?  I think that either of those would help sell it.  Interior pictures also.  Looks like a well-built car.

I know I should do WAY more advertizing but this is simply a first attempt to say "its for sale" to  this very unique group.

It's never been dyno'ed, but my butt dyno says 250/275 HP/Torque. And I should share the sound of this thing, it;s intoxicating and you can barely hear the intake noise with that dang air box.  

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Ok, here are some interior pictures.

Overall Dash and console view.

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The steering wheel is actually from my 510 project, I decided the nice one in the Z was better and pilphered it.  It's so ugly in there, have to get the black SEM dye out....

Seats from 90's Z32, power drivers side. Comfy. Yes those are NOS door cards.

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The center stack is all custom. Vintage air controls up top, generic controls in the middle (hazard, rear defrost, other), and the slide out pop up  double DIN touch screen stereo with Satellite radio and backup camera. When it's up it hides the center controls but not the HVAC controls. THAT was fun to install.....

Top is a pair of AC outlets (280Z) and the AFR gauge in the middle.

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Love the AC ducts in those spots. Always thought those were a great spot for them. 

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11 hours ago, JSM said:

Love the AC ducts in those spots. Always thought those were a great spot for them. 

Thanks! Nothing like nice cool air in the face. The 280 outlets can be closed as well, unlike the 240 eye balls. And they are small enough to fit.

The Speedhut gauges are multi-gauge so I'm not losing any instrumentation. Speedo/Tach,  and oil/water/volt/fuel in the other.

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If the new owner is not interested in those Type Q Mikuni/Solex carbs please send me a PM.

By the way how do you find the way the car drives between Z-Therapy SU's and those Type Q's?

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Yes, they are antiques. Better on a roadster or something right?  They are in great shape and run very well.

The SU vs Mikuni's is an interest comparison. Without doubt the 44's do better at wide open throttle and nearer the top end. But since I spend, oh I don't know, 99% of the time just driving around town in a spirited fashion, the SU's feel pretty much equal. Oh yeah, they are easy to start, get better mileage, overall drivability is better. 

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Well here is an interesting development. I've had lots of interest in the Z, but so far, no sales. The statistical trends around the reasons for saying "no thank you" are now repeatable and cluster around a single item. It's too modified, ie too many unknowns.

It matters not that its nearly rust free, has a lovely paint job, has been proven reliable, and is just plain beautiful to look at. The fear around "what if something goes wrong" is too much it seems.

So, I am now tempted to do the previously un-thinkable. Strip it bare and rebuild it as stock as I can get it. Leave only common mods. Wheels, seats, spoilers, maybe a simple modern stereo. 

Given the recent BaT sales that shows the big money goes to the best perserved and original cars, I'm wondering if I won't be ahead if I sell the "stock version" for similar money that I'm asking for the "resto mod version" and as a bonus, have a truck load of modified parts to sell off separately. Am I dreaming or on to something?

So, who wants a R200 CLSD, CV's, coil overs, a stroker motor, ZX 5 speed, speed hut gauges, Vintage Air A/C system,  touch screen stereo, etc etc etc?

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My humble opinion and take it or leave it because at the end of the day modifications are to an owners taste, but I personally would change the following:

1.) Steering wheel (go back to the wooden stock item).

2.) Seats go back to the original seats.

3.) Remove the dashboard modifications (go back to stock gauges and remove the vents in the dash) and heater facia panels* + radio (if at all possible to source?)

4.) Gear stick makes it look like an auto, go back to the original (with a 5 speed knob)

5.) I would probably put the Mikuni's back on for a stroker motor.

6.) List on BAT

 

* I see you have Vintage Air con etc.. so this might not be so straight forward.

 

I like the body work, car has nice period correct front and rear spoilers etc.. You can't easily revert paint to stock, but the colour is nice enough just not original. I think it would certainly drive nicely and make an excellent weekend warrior. 

I was pleasantly surprised to see this 260z reach $46k USD.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-datsun-260z-7/

Which is a strong indicator that stock original examples are where the money will be in future. In my opinion that was always going to be the case because so many of these cars have been changed and in my humble opinion a lot of the charm is in the original car. Not that I'm adverse to modifications, but i think keep the overall aesthetics original, drive train and other components (out of sight) can be improved etc.. without too much harm on values. Having said that I recently had a gearbox rebuild for my early 72 240z (AU market car) which would have had a 71A box originally, I used a 260z 71B box (close ratio) with 71C extension housing (so gearstick came through stock position like early cars) and I was not quite sure if I should even do that! Part of me wanted to go back to 71A but people keep telling me their not that great! So I don't always take my own advice. :D

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Gav, thanks for the input, I really do appreciate your opinions. The more I think about it the more I am leaning in the "go stock" direction.

Fortunately putting it back to "stock-ish" requires only time for me. I have a fully loaded prepaid VISA card at my favority store, Z-Mart (my basement...).

I even have a pretty good set of flat top carbs for the 73! Maybe that's going a bit far... I'm nuts but I'm not crazy.

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2 hours ago, zKars said:

Well here is an interesting development. I've had lots of interest in the Z, but so far, no sales. The statistical trends around the reasons for saying "no thank you" are now repeatable and cluster around a single item. It's too modified, ie too many unknowns.

That is really odd to me, to modified.  To me all the mods improve the unknowns.  I think they may be taking the mods and comparing  prices against bone stock Z's?  Maybe they want more of a stock Z and that for the price your asking it doesn't make sense? 

Not like an LSD isn't serviceable or a stroker motor. Heck the vintage air is way better than stock ever was excluding the freon difference. 

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9 hours ago, zKars said:

So, I am now tempted to do the previously un-thinkable. Strip it bare and rebuild it as stock as I can get it. Leave only common mods. Wheels, seats, spoilers, maybe a simple modern stereo. 

Jim, that is exactly what I had to do with the /70 Z I had before I sold it, stripped all the goodies off and kept them for the next car. Those are some very nice mods, shouldn't be hard to find a buyers for them.

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