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Who actually did S30's styling? We can make it clear

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The pencil and tools too,they all drawn by Mr.Tamura.

What a beautiful work of art!!

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Thank you, Kats, for bringing this topic to the club. Please also tell Mr. Tamura thank you for joining in the discussion. We are honored to be a part of the topic. The sketches and photos in this thread are beautiful pieces of important history of the Z.

Mike Gholson

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Thank you Mike,

Mr.Tamura will definitly be happy when he see your post:)

Also everyone here makes him happy,that is easy,Mr.Tamura love to see people is saying "I love my Z"

I think it does not matter you know about design story or not.

kats

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Hey Kats!

Many thanks for the pictures and story. This is great information to hear! The pictures of clay tools are stunning information to add to our collection of how our cars were conceived. All my best to Mr. Tamura.

Chris

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This is a great thread. Thank you everyone. Wish my Japanese wasn't so poor. I would love to read the design notes for myself.

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Kats,

Interesting story from Mr. Tamura has me thinking. If he was part of AC prototypes from 1966 through most of 1967 but not part of the final clay models - P-types. Here are some pictures of the AC models. The convertible is A6 from January 1966. It shows the sharp corners of the headlamp cover design. Perhaps what Mr. Tamura was talking about with his Yoshida conversation.

Then model types AC-2, AC-3, and AC-4 from May through October of 1967.

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Hi Chris,240znz,Grim,Fred

Thank you for enjoying this thread.I have more to show on this topic from Mr.Tamura.

Chris,type A6(convertible) was a very biggining, Mr.Tamura was not inducted to the team yet.Type AC-2 has a lamp case which Mr.Yoshida said "that is my design" ,a little before the AC-2, Mr.Tamura joined as a modeler. Mr.Yoshida left the team after AC-2 completed.

kats

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Hi Chris,240znz,Grim,Fred

Thank you for enjoying this thread.I have more to show on this topic from Mr.Tamura.

Chris,type A6(convertible) was a very biggining, Mr.Tamura was not inducted to the team yet.Type AC-2 has a lamp case which Mr.Yoshida said "that is my design" ,a little before the AC-2, Mr.Tamura joined as a modeler. Mr.Yoshida left the team after AC-2 completed.

kats

Ohhh, man. As much as I love the coupe, I wish they'd have found a way to make a convertible as well!

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I would recommend "Datsun Z - Fairlady to 280Z" by Brian Long as basic reading. That is probably THE most accurate comprehensive book on the S30 type; in English. The pictures I use most often come from a Japanese publication; Car Graphic magazine, issue 02, 1970. Mr. Matsuo told me that a great deal of the information in the article came from Yoshida san. However, the article is the most comprehensive description I have seen on the subject of styling development. It is all in Japanese though.

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I read that Mr Tamura passed away last month.

 

R.I.P. Kumeo Tamura 1944.2.28 - 2015.4.16 

 

Thank you for your excellent work on the S30.

 

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If there are parallel timelines as some say exist and we exist on them it might be possible that some of us were involved in the styling design of the Z car, in another time and place.

 

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If there are parallel timelines as some say exist and we exist on them it might be possible that some of us were involved in the styling design of the Z car, in another time and place.

That surely is the truth, wouldn't we each love to have been part of this magnificent car, the 240Z.

My thanks to Kat. I read all of your observations, as I had no idea of all these happenings. I just know I love the Z!

I now have my second one, coming to me in my second youth of my life. A 1971, and now a 1976 at 72 years old.

Sign me a Zoholic!

Jai

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Hi and thank you everyone here, this is an old thread. I suddenly wanted to put this picture. 

What do you see in this picture  ? I see a beautiful female face . She has got beautiful eyes and nose and lips .

Many people were involved in developing of this car , but Mr Tamura did a great job . Who was there always in his mind when doing this beautiful work . 

Kats

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You right! Beautiful

Could you send s photo of your fog lights. What are they?
Don


72 body and block, everything else 71, Tokico springs, Illumina, R180 CLSD, 83 close ratio, 3.90 gears, Ztherapy SUs, BRE 15X7 Libre wheels and BRE front spoiler.

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Thank you 7tooZ and 240znz ,

I wish Mr .Tamura could tell more about our cars. 

Kats

7tooZ , I will send some pictures of the fog.

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Thank you 7tooZ and 240znz ,
I wish Mr .Tamura could tell more about our cars. 
Kats
7tooZ , I will send some pictures of the fog.

Sweet



72 body and block, everything else 71, Tokico springs, Illumina, R180 CLSD, 83 close ratio, 3.90 gears, Ztherapy SUs, BRE 15X7 Libre wheels and BRE front spoiler.

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Hi , dutchzcarguy reminds me this thread . I would like to explain the story behind the rear deck glass which Mr. Tamura struggled to make its style better . ( Sorry If I did it already before ) 

Mr . Tamura was thinking seriously about the curve of the glass which was nature when the glass was baked .

The design team made clay model but usually they didn’t care about the curve of the glass . In the clay model , the glass area was put films and the area was cone , if you look from side , it looked flat .

Mr. Tamura knew the glass is not flat but he could not be able to have actual glass , nor test it when he was designing the rear deck . He was afraid the design line of the roof and the rear end of the deck were not meet the curved glass .

So he used his imagination fully, think again and again , he assumed curve rate which glasses normally have .

He finally lifted up the end of the roof 10mm , also lifted up 5 mm at the rear deck panel where the bottom of the glass meets .

He was happy his decision after seeing the car . A lot bolder , sharper , this rear and side view tensioned the styling a lot more beautiful.

Mr.Tamura also said “ Mr. Matsuo was asking me  what are you doing ? You need to be quick “

But after seeing his work , Mr.Matsuo said nothing about it .

” I felt Mr.Matsuo liked the re-finish of my work which made the roof line and side view much better than before , compared to the clay model which was used for the presentation for the executives “ 

Please see the drawings which was made by Mr. Tamura .

Kats

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