Carl Beck

Taking a quick look though an extensive collection of Engine Data Tags (hundreds of them in the collection from Mr. Lowell Wade) The L24 was rated at 151/150 The L26 was rated at 162 HP The L28E in the 280Z Federal Models was rated at 170HP The L28E in the 280ZX was rated at 132HP The L28ET in the 280ZX Turbo was rated at 180HP (as I recall - I don't have an engine data plate for the 280ZX Turbo's that shows the factory rated HP) If you have an engine data plate for an L28 in a 280Z - that shows something other than 170HP, it most likely is from the "California" model. In which case you should have a "CAT HOT" warning light in the center console. If you have a picture of that data plate, I'd like to see it. The bottom line is - that until the 82 280ZX Turbo with the 5spd. came out - none of the North American 260Z's, 280Z's nor 280ZX's were as fast in the 1/4 mile, nor would any of them beat the 240-Z on a road course. FWIW, Carl B.

Hello Tilman: Welcome to the forum... If you are used to Fuel Injection and Turbo's - then just get an L28ET from the 280ZX Turbo - and drop it in your 240-Z. Then you'd have that kick in the back, along with the Classic lines. FWIW, Carl B.

Oh good.. I was a bit worried that you would not have enough space between the axle and the backing plate - to get the studs out/in - without having to remove the axle. (been a long time since I had to do that job). I guess I was thinking of the longer racing studs.. Carl B.

All of the above - Kroil is the way to go. If you do any work at all on these old Z's a couple of can's of Aero-Kroil are simply indispensable. I've been working on cars for 50 years now, and I've never found anything that comes close to being as effective as Kroil. It's a pain in the neck to have to order it on-line, wait for it to be delivered - and it is not cheap; but well worth the time and effort. Put Kano Labs in google... If you can't get an air or electric impact wrench on it - then resort to the original impact source. Everyone should have a medium size brass hammer in their tool box. So - Kroil and let it soak, then box end wrench on the nuts, then a swift solid blow to the other end of the wrench with the brass hammer... They break right loose. Dynamic torque is soooo much more effective and far easier on your hands.... FWIW, Carl B.

If by "this head" you mean the O.S. Giken head.... Then the main difference is the O.S. Giken head is designed for, and bolts onto, the L series engine, whereas the head from the S20 will not. FWIW, Carl B.

I guess we are all waiting on pictures.... You didn't mention price, nor model year... Stripped rear wheel studs are NOT common, nor are they easy to change. The door not opening from the outside is somewhat common, most likely a broken leg on the door handle... you can swap the left and right side door handles or get another one... good luck, Carl B.

Neat Video... but... I'd rather have a spherical rotary valve head for the L24 today. Anyone have $15,000.00? <a href=http://www.coatesengine.com/ TARGET=NEW>It's A Ball</a> FWIW, Carl

Hi Victor: Way to go - nice pictures of a great car.. You've got to be happy about that. Nissan Sport Mag. should make a deal with several of the Japanese Magazine Publishers that would allow Nissan Sport Mag. to translate and republish several great articles published in Japan. Nissan Motors should encourage that arrangement and indeed help sponsor it. FWIW, Carl B.

Hi Dave: The 1970 Nissan Stockholders Report lists about 96 countries in which Nissan Motors Ltd. had distributors. Some distributors were also Dealers themselves it seems. I'm not sure all the Distributors listed were actually DATSUN distributors, but that list may include Nissan Distributors who handled Nissan Diesels and Nissan Fork Lifts etc. - in countries around the world. For Australia: Nissan Motor Company (Australia) Pty. Ltd. Melbourne, Victoria Datsun (Distribution) Pty. Ltd. - same street address as above Datsun (Distribution) S.A. Division Kenwick, S.A. Australia Capital 1 Motors Limited - Auburn, N.S.W. Australia Duncan Motor Co. Pty. Ltd. Perth, W.A. Australia Ira Berk (old) Pty. Ltd. Queensland, Australia Holyman Motors Pty. Ltd. Tasmania, Australia Cavenagh Car Sales Pty. Ltd. Northern Territory, Australia = = = = = = = = = = = = Ira Berk started as a Dealer in 1962 and celebrated his 20th Anniversary as a Datsun Dealer in 1982. Anyone know if he or his dealership is still around? Of course Nissan had a couple of Importers and a couple of Distributors in 1958, prior to forming NISSAN MOTORS IN USA in 1960. The reason that Mr. K. recommended Nissan take over its own sales and distribution in the US was that the distributors were not doing a good job of marketing and sales. Mitsubishi was the "Importer" with Chester G. Lubby, a Chevrolet Dealer in Forest Hills, New York, as the sole distributor for 22 Eastern States, April 29, 1958. Marubeni was the "Importer" with Woolverton Motors of North Hollywood, California as the Distributor in May of 1958 for the Western and Southwestern States. Both Distributors were already large organizations dealing in domestic and some foreign makes. They established subsidiaries, Luby Datsun Distributors and Western Datsun Distributors to handle their new line. Ray Lemke of San Diego was the first Datsun Dealer with sales starting in Oct. of 58, past the original Distributor/Dealers. In 1965 Lemke Datsun became the first Dealer to sell 100 cars in one month. Datsun USA had: 122 Dealers in 1961 144 Dealers in 1962 225 Dealers in 1963 ??? Dealers in 1964 432 Dealers in 1965 (as of Nov. 65) ??? Dealers in 1966 544 Dealers in 1967 (as of April 67) ??? Dealers in 1968 640 Dealers in 1969 (as of Jan. 69) 899 Dealers in 1970 (as of Jan. 70) 922 Dealers in 1971 (as of Jan. 71) 937 Dealers in 1972 (as of Jan. 72) The above does not include Dealers in the State of Hawaii which reported still to Japan. Many, if not most, of the original Dealers in 61/62 were used car lots or mechanical repair shops. Lemke was typical of the people that grew from mechanic, to millionaire with Datsun in the USA FWIW, Carl B.

Another thing to keep in mind is that mold spores are carried by/on/with dirt/dust. So always do a good job of vacuuming the carpet and clean every other surface thoroughly prior to long term storage. Once you get mold growing on leather or vinyl - just cleaning it off isn't enough. You have to kill the mold spores that get deeper into the material - - - so you need a germ killer like Lysol. Always test a small area before you use any product that kills germs - some contain bleach and you don't want to bleach any of the color out of anything... FWIW, Carl B.

Hi Dave: Great idea. The history of Datsun/Nissan is an area of interest for me and several of my friends. I would like to know the answers to a lot of the questions you pose. So if anyone can find and publish some of the associated history such as you have done - it would be great. FWIW, Carl B.

Hi Miles: Thanks - very interesting. Of course some information always leads to more questions. Most of the New Car Dealers here in the States derive a great deal of their income from their used car sales. They either retail the cars they take in on trade, or wholesale them out to other used car dealers. What do the New Car Dealers do with the cars taken on trade in Japan? You mentioned auto registration takes some time - but I understand that it also involves several different forms and amounts of taxation. To tie all this back to the 240-Z and 432Z: Since the early 50's Japan has had a tax on private vehicles, based on the engine displacement. Do you know, or can you find out, how much that tax was in 1967 - 70. It seems to have had a great impact on cars sold there with over 1499cc engines. As I understand it, it is an annual tax not just a one time penalty like our Gas Guzzler Tax on new vehicles. regards, Carl B.

Yes - it sound like that is at least a starting point. With the Key at 12 O'clock - the #1 piston should be at TDC.

Hi Jeff: With all that said - why don't you? You are test driving a lot of nice cars, so money can't be the stopping factor. What keeps you from buying? I know why I don't - its just a personal opinion - but I think its ugly. On top of that its overpriced. Just as a personal benchmark for my personal tasts - the Solstice mentioned above comes much closer to my idea of beauty and value.. but still not quite close enough. If they would build the Coupe they designed, chop 300lbs off because of the roadster body - and drop the price of the turbo model to $23,995.00 I'd be in there buying... What would Nissan have to do - to make you a buyer? regards, Carl B.

As I've said before - I do the best I can. Perhaps instead of cursing the darkness, you'll light a candle and publish the information and their sources that you have. The numbers I used were from memory - Nissan USA reported 922 Authorized Datsun Dealers in 1970. Oops.. I was off by 18. It is not so much a matter of the USA/Canada markets being big, as it is a matter of historical fact that Japan very specifically wished to export automobiles to America. Could have been because it was the largest market, could have been because it was the most open. What ever the reason, the fact is it was America into which Japan Inc. wished to sell their exports, and for which they were willing to build what Americans wanted to buy. Really unlike the auto manufacturers in GB and Europe that seemed to think we should appreciate their offerings for what they were, rather than attempting to make them as more of us would have wanted. Really? Wow.. I wonder how Richard Feast missed that.. You'll have to give me your source for that data, and I will include it in my references. According to Richard Feast's "Datsun's foothold in Britain", AUTOSPORT July 29, 1971.... for example: Less than 2000 Datsuns were sold in GB in 1970. The original franchise was handled by the Layford Group, but was eventually sold. Datsun UK Ltd. was FORMED at the end of 1970. I suppose that is one reason that the UK received only a couple 240-Z's in 1970. By the end of 1971 they were moving into their new facilities at Esplanade House in Worthing. Datsun UK Ltd. employed about 40 people. Between the end of 1970 and the report by Feast in mid 71 Datsun UK had "signed up" about 120 garages willing to sell Datsuns. He didn't break out the number of Nissan Authorized Dealers, actually open for business in 1970. He did report that Nissan said they sold less than 2000 units there in 1970. Feast writes: - Quote - "The method of introducing Datsuns to the British market was through dealer conventions. Local garage owners, professional people, potential customers and press were invited to a centre to hear about and sample the product. The result is some 120 garages selling Datsuns, some tempted from previously well established dealerships." - end quote - Of course we all know that articles in Automotive Magazines are often wrong. Nonetheless from memory it seems to agree with other sources I've run across. So I'll accept your answer to my Question - that GB is one country to have over 10 Dealers in 1970. With farther research I'm sure we can identify at least 10 Dealers in Australia as well - but so far we have only a list of Authorized Distributors there for 1970... some of which were still listed as Prince Distributors. It was a Nissan issued document, I'll see if I can find it again. Nonetheless it wasn't so much that the American market was BIG - so much as it is the fact that it is THE market that Nissan decided to compete in - in a big way first. Well I'm glad to see that you finally accept the fact that Nissan Motors Ltd. was willing and able to design and build the cars their Customers in America wanted to buy. Big comfortable cars with lots of power! ) I'm not really sure that Nissan Motors Ltd. in Japan actually had franchised Dealerships, in the sense that we did here in America. Where large inventories of new cars were on display, large Parts Departments socked huge inventories of parts and Service Departments handled all warranty work and mechanical work after the sale. Perhaps you could light a candle there as well, and inform us all of the exact retail sales arrangements in Japan in 1970. Did retail salesmen really come to one's home to sell the car, or is that just an urban legend ? Did one buy their car one place, then take it elsewhere for service or repair? What was the warranty on a new car purchased in Japan? Nonetheless, what ever the sales arrangements of the Japanese sales outlets, they sold about 3% of the total number of 240-Z's in Japan, and about 12% of the total Z Cars produced 70-73, into the home market. Nissan reported total production of vehicles at 1,374,022 of which 71% were sold into the JDM, so it was certainly a large and viable market for the right cars. I'm not really sure what data you are referring to. Did you provide some data?... Oh, the Datsun UK having over 110 franchised and active dealers IN 1970?... Do you have a better source that explains how they managed that when they were formed in the last few months of that year? I'm not saying it isn't possible - just seems unlikey that 110 dealers would have sold less than 2000 vehicles in 1970 there. The 922 Dealers sold just over 150,000 Datsun in 1970, and just over 250,000 in 1971. Mostly because Nissan supplied them with the vehicles, but never enough to meet the demand, we were always waiting on more cars and trucks. FWIW, Carl B.

Hi Kats: Funny - that is exactly the way I was thinking when I had my First wife. just kidding, Carl B.

It most likely wasn't the first set of pads, and you most likely made it worse with the metallic pads. The metallic pads have very fine shreds of metal in them. That is there to dissipate heat more rapidly in heavy brake use situations. The metal shreds can leave very fine metal shavings on your rotors.. and they rust over-night. Not really a problem if you drive the car frequently. A couple steps on the brakes usually cleans it off again. The squeal is most often caused because the anti-squeal shims are too weak, not changed with the pads, not reinstalled correctly or left out all together. There is also an anti-squeal compound that is supposed to be used between the pads and the pistons in the calipers... many shops fail to use it or install it incorrectly. The third thing overlooked when a shop gets in a hurry is Disk Brake grease.. that should be used on the pins, on which the brake pads hang. FWIW, Carl B.

That is correct - when you set the engine up. But you indicated that you had the car running, even if badly... and NOW when you bring the #1 cylinder up on TDC the bright link isn't where it was to start with. In that case you simply keep turning the engine over, until the bright link returns to its correct position when #1 is at TDC again. If your engine doesn't have the usual timing mark pointer - go the junk yard and get one off another L series engine. Set the engine at "0" (#1 at TDC) and bolt the pointer in place so it points to the "O" mark on the pulley. Or you can use a piece of bent wire with the end painted yellow. At NOON... right on the top of the crankshaft. FWIW, Carl B.

One of the reasons that Nissan's sales in North America fell off so consistently between 1983 and 1998 was their corporate philosophy changed so dramatically by 83. Along with the elimination of the DATSUN brand, it seems that Nissan decided they wanted to build and sell models that could be sold in many different countries, at the same time. In effect this was the dream of the automobile manufacturers... one "world car". With far fewer market specific models to deal with, profits per unit would go up and up... When they entered the US market in 1958, their corporate goal was to increase export sales to America, in order to reach true mass production levels of efficiency in Japan. In-turn, that would bring the average cost per unit down, and in-turn that would lower the price of a car in Japan, and allow more Japanese to buy a car for personal use. (this was a strategy for all Japanese auto makers - outlined by MITI in the mid-50's). With the goal of selling Datsuns to Americans, Nissan was very focused on what changes they had to make to their cars, so that American buyers would buy them. The ultimate example of that adaptability to their Customers desires, was the Datsun 240-Z. With the "re-birth" of Nissan in the USA at the end of the 90's - we see the image of Mr. K reminding us who Nissan WAS, it WAS DATSUN and it WAS the 240-Z. But following that closely we also see Nissan building full size trucks and SUV's in America. They came very late to that party, but at least it indicates that they are willing once again to design and build whatever vehicles Americans want to buy. Bringing the "Z" back to America was another indication that market specific models are necessary if you want to sell in quite different markets around the world. However the 350Z was simply an expedient at the time, not the clean slate design originally promised by Mr. Hanawa. So a far more "world car" platform had to be used. The G35... chopped and channeled. A classic example of Badge Engineering, that Chrysler used during its turn-around period to trim costs. One that works for the short term, but can not be sustained in the market for long (again proven by Chrysler). I haven't found actual sales numbers for the 350Z, Nissan will only say they are satisfied with its sales. It would seem that they are selling something close to 30K units per year. 2008 will be the fifth year for the car... and I'd expect to see sales drop off drastically. That was one reason the 90+ 300ZX failed. You just can't keep the same old thing in the Sports Car market in the $35K and above price range, for much more than 5 model years, without major styling changes. time will tell... Carl B.

da... sorry I had a brain frat there... yes TDC on the compression stroke. Also agree that it takes several revolutions to get the Bright Link back to the same starting position.... One thing you might check - with a static timing light - is that the #1 spark plug is indeed firing where/when it is supposed to. On one engine I had, the distributor drive gear lost a tooth, and it wasn't until it lost a couple teeth that it got bad enough to show itself. FWIW, Carl B.

Did you confuse TDC on the Exhaust Stroke with TDC on the Intake Stroke?

I had been thinking about a 280ZXT 2+2 - but then found the 510 Station Wagon... it's almost as much fun to own as the 240-Z. Lots of cargo space and you really can put 4 adults in it if necessary. Just needs a little more HP in todays world... maybe a KA24DE swap... The only drawback to any of the Datsun's from the early 70's is that here in Florida, the A/C on them simply sucks.. very little heat/sound insulation, small evaporators etc. If you have a "family" on the way - you don't need another nor larger project. The girlfriend you had will quickly turn into a "Mother" and your world will not be close to the same. Been there and done that twice.... A good clean used, low mileage Chevy Chevelle about two years old... the five door... will be just the ticket. Good gas mileage, reliable for the next five years or so... Good luck, Carl B.

Todays's "240-Z" could have been the Pontiac Solstice, if only GM had offered it FIRST as a coupe, weighing in around 2460lbs and with 225HP at $23,995.00. (10.9 lbs per hp). Nonetheless, it's a neat little package - the roadster with 177HP weighing in at 2860lbs. (16.2lbs per hp) $22,115.00 MSRP. The GXP with the Turbo is $27,115 MSRP - 260HP at 2976lbs....(11.4 lbs per hp) should be a good little performer... with the Club Sport Package (4wheel anit-lock brakes & Posi). 100,000 mile warranty. (about $10K less than the 350Z roadster). I like the Saturn Sky's front end design a little better today - but wonder if in 20 years the Solstice won't be of more interest... FWIW, Carl B.

Not the Same Car - but somewhat like it. Note the difference in the rear quarter panel treatment. I like the one in Austraila a bit better in that regard The one pictured below may have been in Australia... Don't have a record of who owned it... It is on the Z Car Home Page in the Photo Albums. <a href=http://zhome.com/picturelibrary/nzcc06.jpg TARGET=NEW> IS THIS IT? </a> Caption said: A highly modified 280Z (turbo) in "Street Prepared" car show. (had a For Sale sigin asking $23,000.00) Carl B.

Hi Guys: The 1970 Showroom Brochure can be seen on the Z Car Home Page. It's in the Photo Library.. <a href=http://zhome.com/zcarfilesJPEG/70Broch.htm TARGET=NEW>Direct View Here</a> They are not too rare - usually sell for between $25.00 and $45.00. The Red Car is HLS30 00007, the Green Car is HLS30 00006 and the Silver car is HLS30 00008. I am working on a 24"x36" limited edition Z Car Poster - that will feature pictures of the Red Z taken at the same photo shoot as the images in the 70 Showroom Brochure. This will be a very limited production and the Posters well be expensive. They will come with a certificate of authenticity signed by the original photographer. I have the negatives and a few prints and am working with a graphic artist to do the layout, background, frame borders etc. Not certain of the final number yet, it will depend on how many I can pre-sell. Should be 50 to 100 of them, and they should run about $89.95 each. As this is simply a hobby - the project is currently falling behind other more pressing projects, but I expect to have it done before Christmas this year... FWIW, Carl B.