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    These wheels were on my 72 when I bought it.  I figured they were just cheap knockoffs and I didn’t pay any attention at all until this morning when I moved them.  They are very light and are some kind of alloy (non-magnetic), which seemed odd given their (apparent) age.

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    These are the only markings:  it looks like “14x65 MAX WHEEL LOAD 1580 CSI “ and a serial number or date maybe “ 6 23 80 1”

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    They weigh in at 30.8 lbs with the rotted old 165/65r14 eagle tire still on, so I figure the wheel must be in the 13 to 15 lb range?

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    Can anyone fill in the details for me?  Are these anything unusual? Or nothing special?

    Thanks

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    They look very much like Minilites to me - but I defer to somebody with "wheel" knowledge of the subject.

    I was going to say knockoffs, (but they have lugs) - in this case the better term would probably be "replicas".

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    Well.. whatever they are, someone felt that they were worth copying.   One of them is a forgery ...A good forgery, but a forgery nonetheless.  Here are the details.

    1) Font 

    3 wheels have this font and are stamped “CSI”  

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    The 4th wheel has this fatter, less precise font and no “CSI” stamp

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    2) Date stamp

    Three wheels are date stamped.  The forgery is not.

    3) casting

    Three look like this ...

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    And one looks like ...  (ridged area in the circle)

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    And three ...

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    and one ...

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    Hmmm...the plot thickens ...

     

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    Let's assume that the odd one is perhaps a replacement. So you figure CSI stands for Crime Scene Investigation(!) - or Carroll Shelby Incorporated  (nah, he never used an acronym on the wheels he produced).

    This is just for your edification... try putting a drop of vinegar on an unpainted spot on each wheel. If the vinegar stays clear then they are aluminum - if it turns dark, then the wheel is magnesium.

    There were (and still are) a lot of "reproductions" of the original Minilite style. Look at the current Panasport wheels for example.

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    40 minutes ago, Persimmon240 said:

     

    This is just for your edification... try putting a drop of vinegar on an unpainted spot on each wheel. If the vinegar stays clear then they are aluminum - if it turns dark, then the wheel is magnesium.

     

    Thanks for shortening my evenings homework 😀

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    Always remember, Google is your friend.  Do a google search for "CSI Panasport Wheels" and see the many pictures.

    Dennis, An Old timer

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    You usually find Date of Manufacture stamped on Magnesium wheels - not so normal on aluminum.

    The vinegar has to be on the metal - not on any sealed or painted surface. Many magnesium wheels are sealed and painted...

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    26 minutes ago, Carl Beck said:

    You usually find Date of Manufacture stamped on Magnesium wheels - not so normal on aluminum.

    The vinegar has to be on the metal - not on any sealed or painted surface. Many magnesium wheels are sealed and painted...

    Thank you!  Science project tomorrow 😀

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