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i have a question.

I have been working on the hatch weatherstripping for the Goon. It is pretty much done now but I am not impressed with the bond,

If I wanted I could peel the whole thing right back off! The adhesive sticks to the paint pretty good but not to the rubber seal.

We have been using the black 3m weatherstrip adhesive and the 3m fast drying adhesive. Both seem to do it. Part way through I wipe the weather strip down with solvent to see if that would help but I couldn't tell that it changed.

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1 hour ago, Patcon said:

i have a question.

I have been working on the hatch weatherstripping for the Goon. It is pretty much done now but I am not impressed with the bond,

If I wanted I could peel the whole thing right back off! The adhesive sticks to the paint pretty good but not to the rubber seal.

We have been using the black 3m weatherstrip adhesive and the 3m fast drying adhesive. Both seem to do it. Part way through I wipe the weather strip down with solvent to see if that would help but I couldn't tell that it changed.

Try cleaning the silicone off of the weatherstripping using isopropyl alcohol. Silicone is used as a release agent when making rubber products, and adhesives won't stick to it.

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2 hours ago, siteunseen said:

I'm about to put a new hatch seal on my 240 so I'm curious. Are you saying wipe the seal's channel down with isopropyl alcohol beforehand then apply the adhesive? Thanks 

I would clean everywhere the adhesive will be applied. The weatherstrip side and the car side. On the car side a solvent designed to soften and remove the old adhesive would be the best, and shouldn't be harmful to the paint. A plastic scraper comes in handy here too, as it shouldn't damage the paint.

 

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31 minutes ago, Patcon said:

The car is freshly painted so that side is nice and clean

Then I would simply wipe it with some clean solvent, and then follow with a clean, dry wipe before the solvent dries, to ensure there is nothing but the fresh paint.

And of course a good wet wipe, dry wipe of the rubber stuff, with the alcohol. Don't use rubbing alcohol, it has too much water in it. Get isoprpoyl alcohol.

Then apply the adhesive to the car, and install the weatherstrip.  If done right, the weatherstrip should bond instantly, or within a few seconds, so be sure the placement is correct.

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I'd considered an old painting trick before the adhesive, Penetrol wipe down on the car's paint. Just a thought though, I like to study all the angles.

It's what the old timers used to paint signs on glass. It makes a slick surface tacky.

https://www.flood.com/products/paint-additives/penetrol-oil-based-paint-additive

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Ok, so I have a little nugget for any other wagon owner out there...

So this is the factory gas cap. Pretty much unobtanium. The last one I saw a year or two ago in Japan for $350 or so

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So this is what I'm working with

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The cap is obviously very visible and it would be nice if It pretty much filled the space.

So I was googling around and I found a thread, I think it was on "The Realm" that mentioned a Stant gas cap.

A G26...so off to Ebay

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It fits the filler neck fine and appears to seal

Once I had the G26 you can find the vehicles it is supposed to fit. 57'-61' Chrysler, Dodge, DeSoto, Plymouth station wagons. Bingo!!!

Then started looking for locking gas caps for those Marques

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We have a WINNER!! Merry Xmas to Cody...

It has that factory applied red paint ring on it. It doesn't match and I may try to strip it off and polish it. We'll see after he gets it...

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