March 2, 20178 yr Author comment_514230 They came with the car bud. So I am not sure, but I can measure the back spacing this evening.   Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr Author comment_514299 I just laid a straight edge over both tires, and as I suspected, the Konigs mounting flange is 1/2" less deep so they will stick out more. I am not comfortable with that, as I know with my cars suspension it may rub.  I also do not like the look of how far they are sticking out.  Just got use to the OEM looking Panasports.  I can see Guy smiling now.  He always said, I would keep my panasports.   So I have to sell my brand new wheels/tires.  I can demount them and just sell wheels I suppose ad I can use the tires.  Anybody game?  Make offer!  Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr comment_514303 That's too bad. I think they look awesome. I am willing to be your Panasports have a positive offset. Pretty much all other Z aftermarket wheels will be zero like the Rewinds. Sent from my iPhone using Classic Zcar Club mobile Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr Author comment_514330  This image sort of sums it up. the front tire look like a truck tire to me. I cannot shake it! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr comment_514334 1 hour ago, Zedyone_kenobi said:  This image sort of sums it up. the front tire look like a truck tire to me. I cannot shake it! Saw this and it sorta looks like yours, rides a little higher in the front too. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr comment_514339 1 hour ago, Zedyone_kenobi said:  This image sort of sums it up. the front tire look like a truck tire to me. I cannot shake it! Hmm I like it! But you would need a drop in the front. The color of the rims blends together  with the tires and fouls the eye. Would maybe look better with a dark grey/gunmetal color? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr comment_514341 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr Author comment_514343 moelk, those are Wats.not Konigs. You can tell by the dish and the way the step downs blend with a curve. The Konigs are not as deep and have straight edges.  The front of my car being so high is a mystery to me. I run the same springs as many people (Eibach pros, and noticed the larger from gap immediately. My Tokikos sat with even wheel spacing. No idea why. I bought the eibachs after many recommendations from people but when I put them on I noticed the larger front gap. I have never been happy about it. Love the ride compliance it gives, but do not care for the look. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr comment_514344 Are you sure the front and rear are in the right positions? Â I've read a lot of stories of people installing them in the wrong positions. Â The longer springs go in the rear, but in some cases, the springs are mis-marked from Eibach. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr comment_514349 On 3/2/2017 at 8:12 AM, Zedyone_kenobi said: OH also of note on these Konigs. They say they are 0 offset, but they are most definitely NOT.  My Graphite Konigs were 0 offset. I was sure those would be the same. Check this out showing offsets explained.  Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr comment_514353 I would think MSA would for sure have 0 offset on that lug nut pattern wheel exclusively made for our cars. Â But if you don't like them there's no changing your mind now. Â I'm the same way, ask any of my exes. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
March 3, 20178 yr Author comment_514354 Oh I fully understand offsets.  I just measured that the back space on the panasport is 1/2" MORE than the Konig. I am sure my panapsort has 0 on the back of it as well. I will double check. I double checked my suspension thread, and many say the longer springs go in the front. Jeff G are you sure about the longer ones going in the back? I was sure the ones ending in 1 were the front.  Edited March 3, 20178 yr by Zedyone_kenobi Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/57060-msa-satin-black-konig-rewinds-are-coming-need-tires/?&page=6#findComment-514354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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