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Cataloging 240z factory manufacture paint marks

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    I've been trying to gather picture data of the original factory paint marks used during the assembly process.  Using the search function, i guess I may not

    be identifying correctly what I am looking for. 

     

    Has anyone mapped out all of the yellow splotches of paint used during the assembly of a 240z, or have pictures of survivor cars which depict the location

    of said yellow assembly marks?

     

    Thanks for any help from a helplessly addicted originality GEEK!

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    Here are some pictures I have, Dan.  These two are from a car Mike McGinnis did several years ago - a gold medallion car.

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    And these came from a 4/70 car displayed at ZCON 2005; all original, 29,000 miles.

     

    The photographs I have of my car are just that - photographs.  But I have signs of yellow in these locations.  I also have red paint on the nut / washer holding the front suspension compression rod to the chassis.  I never made a map however I'll bet Mike McGinnis knows.

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    Here are some pictures I have, Dan. These two are from a car Mike McGinnis did several years ago - a gold medallion car.

    Chris, thanks for the pics of both your car and a car done by Mike McGinnis. I have talked with Mike (caught him at a busy

    time under a car) and asked him if he had mapped out all of these yellow production marks. I'll get back to him on any

    specific marks when he has more time, but he did indicate there were variations as to the location of these yellow marks with no definitive mapping.

    Your pictures are very important as they not only convey the location, but how they were applied with obvious disregard

    as to neatness. The smear of paint likely not only hit the targeted fastener, but also surrounding structures.

    Dan

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    Blue, more great pictures. Much appreciated. I spent time on this board a number of years ago defining the paint marks

    on springs with member Carl Beck. Carl had, through Courtesy Nissan, arranged for the reproduction of a number of set

    of springs and your pictures reinforce what Carl had found as to the correct paint marks.

    Dan

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    Here are a couple of pics showing some yellow paint marks that were revealed as I was doing some cleaning under my 7/70 last winter.

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    The marks on the mustache bar were very randomly applied. The cross member at the front of the diff also has some yellow paint marks, I will try to get a better picture next time the car is up on jack stands.

    Mike

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    Here are a couple of pics showing some yellow paint marks that were revealed as I was doing some cleaning under my 7/70 last winter.attachicon.gifIMG_4710s.JPGattachicon.gifIMG_4852s.JPGThe marks on the mustache bar were very randomly applied. The cross member at the front of the diff also has some yellow paint marks, I will try to get a better picture next time the car is up on jack stands.Mike

    Thanks, Mike. More good examples to archive. As demonstrated in your pictures, the challenge will not

    only mark the correct locations, but to emulate the technique used. The daubs of paint were applied in a

    purposeful, yet timely manner with attention to neatness secondary as the car traveled down the assembly line.

    Dan

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    Please tell us newbies what those marks were for.  I've never seen or read anything about that and am curious to know.  Also thank you for bringing this up when you did, I'm painting my motor and thought the oil pan was blue.  And I see the motor mounting brackets are black with blue over spray.  

     

    Thanks!

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    Yellow means it is installed correctly and torqued to spec.  My S2000 has these all over.

     

    The colours on the springs are for location and type/spring constant.

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    Please tell us newbies what those marks were for.  I've never seen or read anything about that and am curious to know.  Also thank you for bringing this up when you did, I'm painting my motor and thought the oil pan was blue.  And I see the motor mounting brackets are black with blue over spray.  

     

    Thanks!

    I think "Blue's" answers are exactly correct concerning the assembly line marks. This is just my opinion,

    but I would say that the original oil pan color Is about 80% gloss black. In contrast, the gas tank was close

    to 100% gloss black.

    I thought about trying to duplicate the blue engine overspray, but I couldn't find enough pictorial evidence showing

    The correct locations of overspray to determine how it was possibly applied.

    Dan

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    Hey!

    I found some more pictures.  Here are the front suspension compression rods I was talking about.  I also have yellow paint on the transmission brace bolts and differential mounts.

     

    The yellow paint was applied to indicate correct installation and torque.

     

    You made me giggle with your overspray, comment, Dan.  Who the hell is ever going to know?!!?!!  Here is my best oil pan overspray picture...both styles!

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    Check 7:07 and 7:18 you can see the yellow marks being applied.

     

    And the marker in a belt holder at 8:05

     

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    Thanks to everyone who helped out with all of the reference pictures.  I finally took the plunge and

    started to do some of the yellow inspection markings to see if I wanted to go down that road.

     

    Here are some pictures and your comments are welcome-too much/over the trop?

     

     

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    Too clean.  Too sterile, neat, tidy.  You're missing drips and runs in the paint.  Splotches!  We must have splotchy paint!  And splatters.  It's the splatter that matters!

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    Too clean.  Too sterile, neat, tidy.  You're missing drips and runs in the paint.  Splotches!  We must have splotchy paint!  And splatters.  It's the splatter that matters!

     

    I just knew you were going to see, and say that.  I agree, but it goes so much against a neat freaks nature.  Time for further experimentation! 

     

    As for the red paint mark on the tranny, that's a whole new project, ie., correct color, placement, drips, runs, etc. 

     

    Thanks guys

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    Dan,

    Here's a photo of the original paint marking on the transmission that I masked off to save on my 7/70----there was no way that this marking was going to be bead blasted away to oblivion. (please pardon the glaringly blue oil pan---a big mistake on my part when I did it and it will be corrected)

     

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    Hope this helps you a little on this topic. 

    Your absolutely fantastic car has helped me immeasurably-----I find myself burrowing into every photo you post to see more and more the painstaking and uncompromising level of restoration you have accomplished. When I am looking for what is "correct" I go to your car,  followed by Kats magnificent documentation, every time. There are simply no finer examples.

     

    Jim D.

    "Zup"

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    Dan,

    Hope this helps you a little on this topic. 

    Your absolutely fantastic car has helped me immeasurably-----I find myself burrowing into every photo you post to see more and more the painstaking and uncompromising level of restoration you have accomplished. When I am looking for what is "correct" I go to your car,  followed by Kats magnificent documentation, every time. There are simply no finer examples.

     

    Jim D.

    "Zup"

    Thanks for the compliments, Jim. I also got much of my inspiration by following all of the fine work Kats

    did on his car. He is a master at illustrating, with words and pictures, the definition of originality.

    Great photo, Jim, and your car looks really nice. Looks like the ol' Red Blob, if proven to be correct

    for my car, is next. To find the right shade of red, I noticed that the left front suspension spring has

    A blue and red identifying paint mark and the right spring has just a blue paint mark, all which identify

    spring type and position.

    So you could then say, if this is correct, this may be the shade of red to use. The red blob may identify

    the type, ie., A-transmission. Looking at discussions started by Arne about the red blob, others have

    also found a red "L" shaped mark on the lower right side of the bell housing which could mean something

    like "meant for left hand drive". Conjecture yet to be explained.

    Dan

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    On 11/14/2015 at 2:47 PM, 26th-Z said:

    Too clean.  Too sterile, neat, tidy.  You're missing drips and runs in the paint.  Splotches!  We must have splotchy paint!  And splatters.  It's the splatter that matters!

    Thought I would update my pictures after re-doing a lot of the manufacture inspection marks on my car.  Not quite as neat and sterile as before.  

    I still need to research the correct red for the front suspension compression rods that 26th-z mentioned and for the tranny bell housing splotches also shown in 

    previous posts.  I still need more evidence that those red inspection marks would be correct for my car.

     

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    Hi Dan,

         Here are a few inspection marks that are on my 1970 on the bottom of the motor and steering rack.

    Rich

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    Hi Rich,

    thanks for those.  I'm not seeing anything on the steering rack other

    than the colored tape.  I'll definitely do the yellow mark on the engine.

    you have the earliest of oil pans, so may need to do some more

    research on the preserved white V marking.  I've got one of those

    early pans in the attic which will go on eBay unless someone here

    wants to offer on it.  

    Dan

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    Oh yea, here's my offer on an early oil pan!  Love the yellow paint mark update!  That's just how my car looked when I took it apart.  Splotches and drips - way cool!  I may still have an example of the red paint.  I'll look.

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