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Z 432 At Rm Auction Amelia Island

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    I was worried that it was Kats' car untill I took a close look at the pictures....his is much nicer.  Awesome to drive too....thanks Kats for letting me get behind the wheel for a few.

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    That same guy sold the Skyline GT-R at Monterrey last year.  He has sold at least one other Z432 and a 240ZG here in the US through his company http://welovecoolcars.com/.  He has another 240ZG that he shipped to AZ to drive around and show off at the January auctions this year and plans to sell soon.  He also has another GT-R and a GT-X for sale now ($235k for the GT-R) http://welovecoolcars.com/1971-nissan-skyline-2000gtr/

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    PS30-00092 is slated to be auctioned at the RM auction, Amelia Island in March.  No reserve.  http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1072399

     

    For years we have discussed what one of these would sell for in the States.  Well, now we find out!  Oh the sheer excitement!

     

    Sad to see RM Auctions giving credit to a certain "renowned German designer"

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    Hi,

    This car was owned by our former club member in Japan, we know the car well.

    Very nice and original car, it was displayed at Nissan showroom a few times.

    And here are some very rough Z432 on sale in Japan, both are asking 150000 USD even they have not been

    running more than decades. Crazy.

    PS. The white one is PS30-00023, 1969 car. The green one is PS30-00248, 1970 car and this is better than white one.

    Kats

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    I wonder what the spanners are in the tool kit.  I think 10/11 and 14/15 maybe?

    I will post tools when I am home. Should be 3 spanners , and some missing tools what I can see from the pictures .

    Kats

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    My tool roll has spanners to change the alternator belt (14 or 15mm) and the battery cable clamps (12/13.)  I think I have the 10/11 spanners too.

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    Kats, $ 150.000 and then stil need to restore them.. that crazy money.

     

    Then the one in the auction must bring at least above $ 250.000

     

    With that high prices for a 432 you wonder why the prices of the regular most kept original 240Z's haven't gone up much yet..

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    It's because the 240Z is just a cheap sports car  and rust bucket from "Datsun," but I won't say that...  ;)

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    Thanks for the pictures, Kats! I added them to my picture collection of PS30s.

    I think the prices for early HLS30s HAS gone up - significantly. From what I see, the price of my purchase in 2004 has doubled. And the car sits in storage, pretty much just as I purchased it.

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    TomoHawk,

    Here are the tools of an original item for my Z432.

    The brack plastic grip of the screw driver could be later one. I have seen a wooden grip for early 1970 Z432 before. That wooden grip could be a suitable for my Z432, this RM Z432 has a brack plastic one though.

     

    And the spark plug changer, I have not tried it yet, I am worried about can I use it for S20's deep inside plug? 

     

    Kats

     

     

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    That's a good point, Kats.  I think only a few people would give attention to the handle of a screwdriver.   Even if you know the year the car was made, and assumed the tools are from the same time,  many people would not notice the plastic handle. 

     

    OTOH-  I noticed screwdriver has the removable shank, which you can't have with  wooden handle.  I wonder if the screwdriver was replaced at some time?

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     With the crash of the Yen vs the dollar over the past year, $150K for a Z432 with needs, located in Japan, feels very expensive.  That said, the 69 car is of interest to me.

     

    As far as the Ameila Island Z432 goes (just talking numbers now) - typical in the Auction world, the "first through the gate" always gets the lions share of the attention and profits. Examples that follow can struggle to achieve price parity, especially for cars that trade in a thin market.  That would seem to suggest that this Z432 should do well.  The real indicator will be what the price of the next two or 3 examples will bring.  I've always lived by the rule that a minimum of  3 well-advertised cars and published sales equals a price trend. 

     

    I myself am not convinced that Amelia auction-goers will buy into the significance of the Z432, because if their unfamiliarity with it.  In the United States, the 240Z is the car that people know and love, so it remains to be seen whether someone will pay 4-5X for a car which "looks" like the model they know, but isnt.  And yes, I get that auctions are a global event, and not just limited to American buyers- but in Scottsdale in January, there were very vew phone bidders when compared to last year.  I'm making the assumption the same will happen at Amelia.  We will know more in a few weeks!

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    I was worried that it was Kats' car untill I took a close look at the pictures....his is much nicer.  Awesome to drive too....thanks Kats for letting me get behind the wheel for a few.

     

    Hi Montezuma ,

     

    That is what I am worried about too, I do not want people to think that RM car is MY car .

    Already I saw one website is mixing up pictures RM car and my car, I think ordinary people (not people like here) can not

    tell the difference between these two cars.  My Z432 is PS30-00088, the RM car is PS30-00092, yes very close.

    http://www.carsaddiction.com/articles/2015/02/collectable-japanese-market-only-nissan-400r-and-z432-on-auction?preview=fairladyz-17

     

    And there is a very similar You Tube about Z432's 8 track stereo to my You Tube, I uploaded last Nov, the seller of the RM car did it last month. Did he take the video with similarity to my video intentionally ? 

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp3rXgBE7pU

     

    Kats

     

    PS:  Jay made this beautiful and wonderful You Tube for my Z432, he put a lot of efforts for it. Please do not mistake this video for the RM Z432. I know people here understand it correctly. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyA8qLPwGwM

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    About the RM Z432,

    It is easy to get it back to more original condition, it is about a ignition system.

    To enjoy the S20 engine, good ignition system must be installed.

    The car has an upgrade system, it is good but if the car has an original system, it will be more attractive.

    Stock parts are hard to come buy, and even if they are new, sometimes they are inoperative.

    However if you have perfect and new functional parts, they can make the car perform like it is meant to be.

    Here are my spare ignition system, they are specifically used for S20 engine. I want to drive my Z432 as long as possible,

    so these are must item for me.

    1, Mitsubishi alternator and starter

    2, Mitsubishi transister ignitor

    3, Mitsubishi distributer (early type)

    4, Mitsubishi voltage regulator

    5, S20 ignitor coil

    6, Two registers

    7, Spark plug wires and a wire for the coil ( this one is longer than the GTR's )

    And a rebuild fuse box, you can see the Japanese text on the cover, this cover is original old blue plastic.

    Kats

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    Thanks Fred , watching the video.

    PZ 69, I think 4 or 5 cars in the US , 3 of them used to belong our club member.

    About the white PS30-00023 , the seller recently added a note "not sell overseas buyer"

    And raised its price 170,000 USD ....

    I do not think there is a buyer even in Japan.

    Or someone in overseas would pay money to Japanese buyer then ship it to his garage.

    Kats

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    Jim Frederick and I are at Amelia Island.  We saw the car up close yesterday.  We are going to the auction today to be there when it sells.
     
    Here are some pictures from yesterday.

     

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    Thanks for the great pictures!

     

    Beautiful little hemi motor...

     

    If Mr. Leno is there, I hope he does some filming on it.

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