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Hello,

Will,let me check later,the car and switch located very far from me.

240znz,I think Z432's is different from any other model,but HS30 and S30 are the same.You can see the attached picture of throttle linkage,Z432 has different from other model.

bpilati,do you have a stop watch like mine?With an Oscilater?

Today I show the Z432 duct wich has just reproduced.The original is made of soft plastic but repro is molded by FRP.

Probably no one out side of Japan will be interested in this,but if some one want to see..

And talking about a battery,it is smaller than the one you have(HLS30/HS30) .

You see the battery cap with a different frame.

kats

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Thank you Will:)

Have you ever seen these Japanese brochures/manuals ?These are all 1969 issued literatures except bottom right,a white parts catalog(1972)

Upper Left:Service manual / center:Service bulletin / right: giveaway at 1969 Tokyo motor show

Lower Left:folded catalog poster size / center: main brochure / right : owers manual / parts catalog

And Z432's magnesium wheel needs special nut(not special??)40224-E4200.

Is this same shape of the one which is used for common slotted wheel?

kats

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I have seen/held a couple of the manuals (2nd from the left on both the top and the bottom) you picture, one I have seen on Yahoo Japan, and three of the four corners are completely new to me.

I believe I have a PDF copy of the lower right corner.

Thanks again for posting these wonderful photos!

On the lugnuts, they are similar to all that I have seen used with slots, but not the same.

Will

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Hi Kats! I have the 1972 parts manual. Your wheel nuts look like the ones for my Watanabes. Great pictures - thanks!

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Like Tony D's Fairlady-Z (standard model),is the lightest Z for the ordinary customer.(racing model Z432-R is the lightest, but it is not listed in the brouchure)

Kats,

I'm surprised to see you write that the Z432-R model was not listed in the domestic brochures, as I have two early brochures in my collection where it very clearly was listed.

The clearest of these - the 'Your Dream Comes True' campaign poster-size fold-out with the red bonnet front cover - you showed in your latest post.......

Here's a close-up of the back cover, with the Z432-R on the top right:

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Hi Alan,

I was surprised,Z432R is shown in yours.But in my catalog, it does not show the Z432R data. I did not know there is a catalog like Alan has.Which is the earliest between yours and mine? Maybe mine is a little earlier because yours has mentioned about automatic trans.

I said "Z432R is not listed in the brochure" ,I know if I say like this,I am not right.Yes, it is listed.But always only very small description, a very few shots. No specific data is listed in the catalog/manuals.

At that time this was in my mind " we can see the Z432R in the brochure,but we can not see the data of its car because the data is not listed"

Even the service bulletin says "So Racing and Rally version PS30SB(Z432R) is a special car that this bulletin does not mention at all"

We always frustrated we can see very little description like this, " Z432R for motor sport and racing,can be tuned highly"

But yours listed Z432R's picture.Great Alan!!

kats

PS/ The original owner of this catalog might buy Fairlady Z(basic model) ,he circled the left red Z.You see the writing 97.6 is a retail price at Tokyo 976,000 JPY.

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Thanks for the close up of the firewall showing the trottle linkage and more importantly the choke cable boot. It looks the same as the throttle boot. Might have to use the same boot on mine as I've moved to triple 44's. Great pics as always Kats, keep them coming.

Does anyone know why the fresh air ducts are configured for the lower of the two radiator support bracket holes? Those repo ducts look great.

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Hi 240znz,

The grommet for the choke cable is not an original.I just could not come by an original so applied this like throttle boot.

Please see the picture of service bulletin.

And the duct,it should be go down due to an air cleaner duct running through upper hole.

Thank you,

kats

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Hello Chris,how are you doing ? how is the Restoration going?

Will,thank you for the info of nuts.Nowadays tapered basement is common,but AP and American racing need flat basement nuts,right?

And this shot is only one Z432R in the brochure.No precise description/specification data.Very cool!

kats

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"And Z432's magnesium wheel needs special nut(not special??)40224-E4200.

Is this same shape of the one which is used for common slotted wheel?"

Hi Kats - I have a NOS set of lug nuts (Nissan Part Number 40224-R4670) to show the difference with your 40224-E4200 set. The obvious difference would be the lack of a washer on yours. Also, in place of the washer the base is quite a bit more substantial. What is the reason for not using a washer on the magnesium wheels?

Thanks for the geat display of photos to brighten our day.

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There must be something special about those nuts Kats. I noticed that in the 1973-12 HS30 Sports Option Parts catalog that they cost almost 3 times as much as the others listed. Is it just because of the special dimensions or perhaps the material they are made from? I also noticed there was only one SPACER-lock nut 48635-E7200 listed (what I refered to as a washer). This SPACER must have been used with all the nuts listed? The spacers are captive on the set of nuts I have.

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Looking at the last five digits of the three part numbers, R46xx indicates that those were originally used on a KGC110, E42xx on a PS30, and E72xx on a PS30S. Those number indicate the original application but these parts were used on subsequent models as the 40224-R4670 lug nuts are the same part number used on the aluminum wheels on my US market 810 but they are identical to the ones on my 78 280Z which are 40224-N3200 but supercede to 40224-R4670.

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Hello everyone,

This winter in Japan,we have got snow quite often.Terrible salt spread on the road everywhere especially country road and some highway.I know but I drove my 240Z and Z432 a little:ermm:

Thank you geezer and sblake01, actually

My Z432 is not using original nut E4200, I now found Z432 is using the nut you posted, R4670.I did not know that.

E4200 is just little bigger than the hole,it can not be in the hole.

My friend who is also a Z432 owner,he trimmed the nuts at a professional factory and use them.

Probably E4200 used to small as an original made back in 70's, as opposed to the nuts which we can get now is original Nissan made but it is not completely the same like used to.

Today some pictures,please note the spare tire cover,it is different from other model.It is made two pieces for Z432 only.This is a reproduction has just completed for me. The material is exactly same as an original.The jute pad you can see is also same material but not dyed.

And an oscillator,I replaced to a NOS one.It is bolted,the bolts are welded on the fire wall.

kats

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Thank you tbone82:love: I love blue , looks great in 240Z.But for Z432, blue is not listed in the catalog. I do not think my 240Z's blue suit for my Z432...

I drove my Z432 from Sendai city to Nara city approx. 600miles in one day.I drooped at a Z factory in Kanazawa city on my way, Mr.Moroe who restored this Z was waiting for me and Z432 to see and perform periodical maintenance.

When my Z432 is inspected,I decided to replace original fuel tank , because it is not good for use, it is rusty inside,fuel pomp's filter gathered many rust.

Mr.Moroe switched old one to NOS tank ,but the new one is for 1975 Z. I t is bigger than 1970 original,but I did not have any choice at that time.

I hope the original tank is restored soon and gets back to my Z432 in place.

Two pictures,the first one is an orange Z432 pictured in 1969 motor show(press day?) I love this picture , it is a good to know to find the originals.

The second one is myZ432.

Let's try to find out what is wrong and what is different.Be picky:geek:

kats

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When I dropped at Mr.Moroe's shop, I happened to see PS30-00087.

What a wonderful moment that my Z432 actually met her sister again since they came apart for delivery from the Nissan factory back in January 1970.

Like 26th and 27th, Chris:love: They must have wonderful times.

PS30-00087, she is now belonging to a new owner recently.

She is very beautiful , still keeping original body paint with lots of original part.Amazingly, she has not been restored.Her S20 engine and suspensions have been modified, and she has got AFM air conditioning system.

I was lucky I met her, she came to the shop to have totally restoration!!

For someone may interested in, she has got reproduction Z432 aluminum wheels. It looks perfect, center cap is also reproduced.I do not know they are still available or not. If you see my Z432's original Magnesium wheel and cap in my website, you can see how the repros are close to mine.

kats

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Thank you Filipe:love:

Last year I owned this Z432 but I had not enough time to drive her.Only once a month, 1 hour or so each time.I kept her at my parents home.

But from now, she is in my house.I drive and drive , even in the rain.I have to take a lot of pictures of this car before she gets dirty and old.

About a rally clock, in Japan many owners say it eats a lot of battery power,you will end up complete discharge in three days if you park the car with connecting the clock.

I did not believe it, but I had just same thing yesterday.This morning I had to do start Z432 with external power from another car.

kats

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Hi Carl,

You have good eyes!! I am impressed you pointed these out.Especially a wing nut of the air cleaner box.

There are some things that are still misssing, does enyone find out yet?

kats

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