mperdue

damnit i can't edit my posts - you're = your... grrr...

Hey! I haden't seen you're reply to this. Yup that sure looks like a 216. Interesting...

Hey CCC, Yeah I think we went over some of this in a recent thread. I should really gather the "evidence" up and see if I can make any sense of it. Im' not sure of the best way to research this kind of stuff besides going through the info on the web. I sure as hell can't afford anymore Z books and we all know how much info in many of those are crap anyway. Thanks for the tip michael

not sure if this has been pointed out here before or not. i just notieced that i've got 2 different 240Z grills. not sure which are for what year, but i suspect the top one is for the '73s because i've got 2 of them like that and i've had 2 '73s. mounting points are different

take a look at my page - it may help: http://www.utdallas.edu/~perdue/paintcodes.html

Anyone else want to point this out?

I thought they could be the ones texasz was refering to later in the thread.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2474653586&category=33643 maybe this one? not new but nice anwyay. I'm also looking for these

oops wrong thread mods please delete thjese 2 posts

try this link http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/search.php?s=

IF you're talkign about 6" coaxials there's really very little difference in sound if the speaker quality is comparable. The distortion caused by the oval shape of the speaker is really insignificant. Now if you mean 6" seperates that's a different story. The funny thing aoubt all this is that 6x9s and coaxials DONT BELONG IN BOXES! They are designed for free air, and even if the ones you have happen to be designed for a box (maybe 0.5% of them), any ol box (such as the MSA one) wouldn't work. It'd have to be the correct volume for the speaker and it'd be darn small, and you wouldn't mount both speakers to the same open box. The whole box thing is just a scam because so many people are dumb enough to believe all speakers belong in boxes. The only thing I will give those MSA boxes is that they probably provide a very sturdy mounting surface for the speakers, which is what will make the biggest difference in sound quality for combo speakers. The thing is you could do that yourself with a piece of plywood and you sure as hell don't need that big box. I'm still waiting for someone to make some nice speaker pods for the front. That's where the sounds needs to come from, except for the bass of course.

Oh I just found the site where you can pull up paint chips by make and year. http://www.autocolorlibrary.com/cgi-bin/search/search.pl Don't know how accurate these are and of course you can't select them by model. Anyway it could help. michael

Are you sure it's not 215? Also where are you? The only Paint code lists I've seen are for US cars. There could be differences overseas. Could you take a picture of the sticker and post it here? I'm sort of collecting information on early Z paint codes. Michael

errr.... i though this was the vote thread. mods - please delete this post and the one above it. thanks

I didn't upload mine but here's the link: http://www.utdallas.edu/~perdue/240z/6123350zroadster22mperdue.jpg I guess it's too late to be included in the vote though michael

one more piece of evidence I just thought about (mabye redundant). Just last week I talked to a friend to mentioned that back in the 70's he had an orange (or persimmon) 280Z original paint. so there was at least one more out there. Proxlamus - do you still have the original paint code sticker? I'm wondering if it's the same used for the 240Z's or a different color. Something that might be helpful would be to find the datsun/nissan paint chips for those years. Somewhere on the site there is a link to an online paint or car parts dealer that lets you pull up JPG's of any manufacturers paint codes for any year. I can't find the link now. It wouldn't tell you which ones were used for Z's but it could at least supply the paint codes for the ones we suspect were available. Not sure where else to look for this kind of info. Maybe photos of dealer car lots back in the 70's? Or photos from old Z meets - before they started being re-painted. The details of Z paint codes really interests me and I'd like to see it all straightened out. I've been working to fill out the gallery on my website for all interested in this. Though I've started taking shortcuts, such as stealing pics from Ebay from owners claiming to have original paint, I'm trying to keep it as accurate as possible. I've also added the Zzzap and Black SE's that aren't in Carl's list. http://www.datsunprojects.org/zpaintcodes.html

If you go back and look at the zhome page you'll see that it's a bit ambiguous about what colors are for what years. Just above the 260Z/280Z list it has this list: "Paint Codes and Interior Colors 1970 Through 1976: 1970 and 71 Model Year Cars 901 Light Metallic Gray or Silver Metallic 903 Blue (till 8/71) 904 White (till 7/75) 905 Red (till 8/71) 907 Dark Green (till 8/71) 918 Orange 919 Yellow (till 8/71) 920 Gold (till 8/71) Added/Changed for 72/73 Model Year Cars 110 Red (from 9/71 on) 112 Yellow (from 9/71) (aka: Lime) 113 Green Metallic (from 9/71) (aka: Leaf Green / Avocado) 114 Bronze Metallic (from 9/71) (aka: coco / dark brown) 115 Blue Metallic (from 9/71) 260Z/280Z ...." Oddly it says '70-76 at the start - so does it mean those listed without "(till 8/71)" continued on until '76? If so I don't know what that means for your '77 anyway. Also sblake and cnixgo mentioned that 510Blue isn't on the list so there are bound to be others. Anyone have access to Carl Beck to find out where his list came from?

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12508

nevermind - i figured it out.

mike is that a source or a submission?

Anyone know for a fact if this really was an available stock color on the 280Z's? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6187&item=2472321990 the zhome.com paint code list doesn't list orange as an available color for the 260-280Z's. Now I'm wondering what else is missing from the list. Her's the zhome list. "260Z / 280Z Colors 215 White (from 8/75 on) 214 Dark Brown (from 8/73 - 7/76) 240 Green Metallic (from 8/75 on) 301 Brown Metallic (from 8/73) 302 Leaf Green Metallic (from 8/73) 303 Green Metallic (8/73 - 7/75) 304 Gold Metallic (8/73 - 7/75) 305 Light Blue Metallic (from 8/73) 306 Silver Metallic (from 8/73) 307 Blue Metallic (from 8/73) 362 Dark Purple Metallic (from 8/75) 517 Beige Metallic (from 8/76) (aka: Lt. Gold) 611 Wine Red Metallic (from 8/76) (aka: Burgundy) 901 Silver Metallic"