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Restoring A Rearview mirror?…Yeah, RIGHT! At first glance, you might agree that it looks as if it is a hopeless cause. Not only does it look difficult to disassemble, but what about finding parts? The mirror was available as an assembly, and Nissan has never listed any of its parts individually.. Is it any surprise that most folks opt out for a new one? Since the supply of perfect shape mirrors is slowly being depleted and some of them are close to impossible to find, it becomes a no-brainer to see that someone will decide to either “make-do” or live with a crappy mirror. If you can find them, here are your choices: 1) New IKI brand mirrors are still available and can be had for about $90. Finding a used mirror in good to great shape would be nice, but get real-these things are more than 30 year old! Restore a decent one in about two hours and $30, and have one that looks new! So how do we go about this? The steps are surprisingly easy! And the tools you probably already have! (If not, then you probably shouldn’t be trying to repair anything ….period.) Tools needed: -Both #1 and #2 Phillips screwdrivers; -A plastic eating utensil, tongue depressor or something close -A fully supplied hot water faucet; -a good clean shop rag -a teaspoon of Dawn or liquid soap. -an emery board or a scrap of 400 grit sandpaper -Part of a can of SEM detail black; -A shoe box or something suitable for parts storage. A pair of safety glasses You may need a few other things, but since you may not, I'll get into that later. First, let’s get down to the basics: 1) Clean the mirror. Dampen the rag with water and soap solution, wring out the excess, and wipe the entire mirror assembly to remove all dust dirt, makeup, oil, etc. Note: DO NOT IMMERSE IN WATER or allow water to enter the mirror housing! There are raw steel parts inside that will rust faster than you can imagine! 2) Evaluate the mirror to see if it is a good candidate for restoration. There are two basic criteria to look at: First: The glass, it probably is the worst looking thing in your car - a ring of brown yellow infectious looking yuck growing toward the center from the outside. Well, look past that nastiness in the glass for a bit. Is the glass cracked, scratched or chipped?If so, evaluate the rest of the parts for use with another glass. A chipped, cracked, or scratched glass is not worth repairing. Since the glass is the “key” item,Any damage to the glass(NOT the silvering) renders this assembly as a candidate for donating parts to salvage another assembly - another restoration candidate, or new $90 mirror is the answer for an IKI branded mirror are the answers to damaged glass. But, if the glass just looks infected, it can usually be restored in almost all cases! Second: Condition of the rest of the parts. A) The Mirror Housing. (these examples are all Z mirror and are actually all the same size!) Housing #1(Everwing): The plastic housing is faded, AND it has a dreaded disease common to old plastic…the CRUMBLIES! This is where the surface of the plastic is slowly decomposing into bits and pieces…it crumbles with every touch and attempt to clean it. (Sob!)This housing is probably NOT a good choice for complete restoration. Side Note: While paint can help hide the CRUMBLIES, unless your glass is in terrific shape, things are going to get much worse when you go to take the glass out. If the housing’s appearance is not that critical to you, and if the glass and silvering is acceptable, take into consideration that after the mirror is mounted, the back will never be seen except from several feet away through the windshield. The distance and the windshield can hide quite a bit as long as the viewable side looks good and the back is actually black and not sun faded gray. And if some Lookie-Lou starts peering a bit too close….tell him to get his fat gut off your fender. Housing #2 (IKI): The housing is a little faded but is in otherwise good shape, and has some wear from being moved about. It has no “Crumblies”, but it has faded to a shade of gray, and does have some ring marks. However from the back all it needs is just a coat of paint to look good, even up close! (If you’ll note,all of the wear is on the LEFT side of the mirror(the right side when mounted), so it probably occurred when “She Who Must Be Obeyed” decided to use it so she could paint her face while in traffic! ) Housing #3 (IKI): Hardly faded, a few marks from somewhere in its history-very useable! Housing #4:(Everwing) A perfect housing! The knob. Evaluate the same as with the housing. If it has "The CRUMBLIES" pick another one, if it is faded touch it up-with a sharpie! C) The stem. Because these are made from a zinc alloy, they will corrode under the paint if chipped. D) The mounting spring. It is made of several layers of steel, and I have never seen one damaged or in need of restration-if you manage to find a damaged one, replace it! 3) Field strip the mirror a) Remove the Phillips machine screw holding the knob on. Remove the Phillips machine screw that secures the mirror housing to the Stalk. Inspect these fasteners and their washers, replace/paint as necessary. Store them carefully for reassembly. 4) Remove the Glass! Now comes the most difficult part of the entire procedure-getting the glass out without damaging the housing or the glass. I have used this procedure on no less than 20 mirrors and been successful each time. I have taken apart around 30 mirrors, and this way is the easiest on the glass and the housing-though it does have a high degree of required effort. The glass is interference fit into the housing, that is to say, it is fitted into a channel in the housing. To get it out, the housing must be heated, but the glass must NOT be. The easiest way I have found to do this is to run hot water over the housing with the glass pointing down. If you want your mirror restoration to last more than a month or so, DO NOT immerse the housing (the glass will also get warm), OR allow the water to enter the pivot. The hardware inside the mirror is not always plated, and any water can and normally will start rust faster than you can say red dot-it has on every single one of mine that water has gotten in. I use water because at normal air pressure it will not get above 212 degrees, and most homes don’t put their hot water hotter than 140°; meaning that you might make your hands uncomfortable, but you absolutely can't and won't hurt the plastic. I would stay away from a heat gun because at 800 to 1500 degrees plastic definitely melts, burns, and its chemical binders evaporate if the mirror didn't have the crumblies when you started it probably will when you are through, and is now far more prone to get them from exposure to the sun. It is pretty easy to spoil your efforts with the use of a heat gun. When the housing is hot to the touch, put on some safety glasses, take it in both hands with your fingers not touching the glass (see the picture below) and twist it carefully, (treat it like you’re trying to wring out t water). Remember, this is actually the easy way-though this part of the procedure requires a great deal of effort and intestinal fortitude!!! I have experimented with 30 mirrors-this is the safest and easiest way I have found to get the glass out-I have not broken any glass that I have taken out this way. If you aren't sure , practice with the worst mirror you can find. The glass will not deform, and as you twist the housing it will be forced partially out of the channel and out of the housing. Then, using the plastic knife or wood utensil, work out the glass, ease it out of the housing. A metal utensil can and normally will chip the glass, meaning you must find another one.) Ok the glass is all but out! (This was Housing#1, notice the crumblies are much worse from the force required to twist the housing and remove the mirror) Nissan does not sell new glass. Ebay? Not at the time I wrote this... 5) Take Care of the Glass For this next step you actually need three more tools: a partially stocked checking account, a pen, and a padded box. WHAT! After all that you’re just going to chuck it in and buy a replacement? No! You now send the glass in for re-silvering! This is the secret makes the whole thing cost effective and possible! Most people don't realize a mirror can be resilvered! They can and it isn't that expensive! It costs $20-25 to have this done depending on shipping, and takes about two weeks. I send my mirrors out to: Jerry Green P.O. Box: 797 Porthill, ID 83853-0797 Auto mirror silvering falls under his “minimum charge” rule, so it’s $15.00 as of this writing, the balance will be dependent on how much it costs to ship it back and forth. Email him for shipping charges, or put a prepaid return shipping label in with the mirror. His web site is http://mirrorresilvering.ca/ and he will be happy to take care of your re- silvering needs-even on things than auto mirrors! Now is the time to restore the other parts, If the plastic does not have the crumblies, wipe it down with alcohol or laquer thinner quickly and just before painting. Do not saturate or soak as the prolonged use of any solvent will attack the old plastic, simply wipe let dry and paint. If the paint on the metal parts has nicks or damage, use some 400 grit sand paper to smooth the edges of the damage, again wipe down with alcohol or laquer thinner and paint. The best match I have found for the color is SEM detail black. Don't forget to tape over your star or red dot!!! When you get your glass back, it should be an easy step to once again, heat the housing (usually the mirror will simply pop in when centered in the opening and pushed) and insert the mirror. Restore and replace any parts that need it before you re-assemble and put them back together, what you will have will be something that looks like Photo #9. A beautiful old mirror easily mistaken for a brand spankin' new one

Make sure you are not uploadig pictures that are too large (in both resolution and file size). I have also found (today) that I can upload a few pictures at a time when filing every available location for uploading doesn't work. Will

I have to say that I bought an Spook look a like(see my gallery) from them via an ebay auction, and it was shipped fast, and doesn't need any more prep than any glass parts I have gotten from anyother vendor. Seems they have gone down hill in a huge way. Will

The "drives like a small corvette" coment tells me all I need to know....he thinks it is a Shriners parade car! Will

They are the same as boadankers-the '73 emmissions meeting carbs-a poor use of metal, and an even poorer addition to a Z! You may have heard of "throwing caution to the wind." Flat tops throw performance out the window! Will

Maybe the ZCCA will add the "C-Rusty Cup/Medallio" and to the Gold Cup\Medallion awards just for Bill! Lowest point scores should be worth atleast a carwash token, and a screen for the drain(to keep from having to much of the car wash away...) Will PS, I prefer to use my car for my avitar-that way every visit here reminds me how far my car has come.

Bryan, Unfortunately you have just illustrated the one problem with the IZCC mail list. It isn't an active entity-that is not to say people don't R and R there, it is to say, the technology of a forum is more conducive to immediate interaction than a maillist. I have been an IZCC member for several years, and I visited the site regularly for years before I joined. I am on the list(as well as the roadster list) and I have always Read but never Responded. In looking at my own use of Z home, I find that I have used it as an encyclopedia, and this site as a the neighborhood pub where I can cary on a conversation conversation-but with a tape recorder function-I have even refered to Zhome in responding here. The technology of the IZCC maillisthas not kept up with the convenience of a true forum. Zhome has tremendous value in its information, but in all honesty, a maillist as a meeting place is like washing your car with water carried a bucket filled with a hand pump, while a forum based conversations are more akin to using a variable pressure washer at the local carwash. They will both get the job done, but given a choice... In order for the list to grow, it must evolve into something more readily interactive. I don't say any of this to critisize what is and what has been the IZCC only to call to attention that the goals have not changed, but the effective technology to attain them has. Will

Yes, and yes. Check out Mototsport Auto, for current wheels and look at ebay, there are several sellers who have current wheels for our cars. WIll

I'd go take a look if I were close enough to pick it up-probably lots of low mileage genuine series one parts- Will

Did you flush the fuel lines when you cleaned the tank? I would reverse flow them from the injectors to the fuel pump(or check valve), Will

Sounds like a good question for somebody in the "Low Vin Club"! Will OS my roadster every numebr has a "flat" on it-I'll see about posting a picture later this evening.

Probably the value of the appraisal for his stated value insurance. Will

You are seeing things! Power windows on a fairlady-they started about '74 from what I have seen. WIll

Wrong mirrors, replaced fenders, While I am not as familiar with S31 as Alan, Kats, or others, this car looks like it has had several donors, wire cutters, and Over confident POs over the years...Not to mention rust-in addition the shipping estimates given assume an operable car...The pictures almost look as if they were taken to exclude portions of the car and validate the ommissions with a pic of the spare tub and rust in unavoidable areas. Absolutely a serious project with no way to test the operation of the extreemly rare parts specific to the operation of this RHD car. engine, efi plumbing, Gas tank, (fuel, brake, vapor) lines, exhaust, etc... Could easily be a modification and not a restoration just from lack of replacement parts. No way of knowing the obviously hacked harness is good. Because of the high probability of registration problems, I'd have to ask for a copy of the title, and verify its integtiry with the state-the seller says it has current registration-I would guess that car probably hasn't run in at least a couple of years-meaning a good probability of California back taxes due if there are any problems in titling in another state-and my guess is even in the best circumstances there will be. Will

Mohamed My comments on the 300ZX were just to rattle Bill, some people don't thing much of the car, I'm not really one of them!

If it is stock, it is all low luster Henry Ford (Black)-not much to look at-or picture... Wil PS, look in Eds gallery-beautiful stuff!

I believe I have a complete one in great shape in storage. Pm me your email, and give me till monday to find it and send you pictures. Will

Priming is the issue, and my understanding is that as long as the level of the pump is below the level in the tank, the fuel will flow to the pump anyway. That is to say if gas flows out of the line opened where you want to put the pump, you won't have a problem-as long as the line is big enough to keep up with the pump. Will

If a 240Z is stock and in a decent state of tune it can be started in less tha 10 seconds with pocket change.-I aint posting the instructions for thieves, but a moving the battery inside the car and a battery disconnect stop that cold. Leaviing it visabley in gear will also stop anyone who understands how this works-or hospitalize anyone who doesn't Will

He had a big bag of plaster, a box of paints and has been watching what Datsun Stuf sells for... I have seen that (or something like it) on ebay a couple of times over the years, But the paint always looks too fresh to be over 40 years old... Will

NO, it isn't past the "ok it's still not right stage", but pm me your email address, and I'll send you a version in progress so you can be "another set of eyes"... WIll

First don't let my experience dissuade anyone from trying to get this done. The parts are more important that the who. About two years after the factory restration program was cancelled, I contacted Nissan USA about getting the molds to a bunch of NLA plastic parts. I used phone calls, registered mail, Western Union, and a finally, a personal visit to the USA Headquarters. The non-personal contacts were met with polite letters of acknowledgement and reciept that promised further action(evidently, filing my request in a dumpster) When I went to the Nissan USA Headquarters, these are the answers I got. "Our corporate tax structure precludes us from selling the tooling to parts we throw away for the same reason." I asked: "Can I find out where and when the molds would be thrown away." That was met like a poke in the eye. Another variant was who is going to pay the people to find the molds(theare are evidently a good many of them for every molded part other than the very early series one variants) box them up, arrange shipping, and what are you going to do about reproducing antiquated industrial machinery to run them in. I answered I could pay for the locating, crating and shipping, and the obtaining the necessary equipment would be my worry, or I could pay someone for access to the location where they are stored, pay a Nissan appointed, vendor approved, babysitter(for me in their storage location), and come do it myself. Obviously they were looking for admitted defeat, not more options from me. These experiences were gathered at the Nissan USA, headquarters, from a male talking head who started off with a deer in headlights look to my questions and went to smug defiance with his answers. He enjoyed telling me no! His answers were fed to him via telephone. Because of the receptionist, I could not get around this guy by going through the front door, so I staked out the parking area and asked people who to ask as they left the building-no results there either. Suprisingly, I was not asked to leave-but then I asked politely accepted what ever answer and went to the next person. I believe Alan is right, there could be success in working the Japanese headquarters(or the right guy at the storage facilities), maybe with support from Mr. K, or some of the other long time Nissan employees/Z enthusiasts. Maybe if we offered to clear a warehouse at no charge-Carlos has storage realestate that is non-productive, this way he could reclaim it at no cost to the company. I know there is another member trying to accomplish the same thing. I told him I had tried before, and he absolutely has some serious advantages that I did not. He frequents the forums, and I will let him chime in if he wants to share his progress Will

Watch out for using wood in that area, it will hold water...any movement at all, and the paint will get scuffed under the wood and the rust rodent will smell the bare metal and start chewing... Will

I looked at my original wheels-all flat black-both sides! Cral, Look on the bright side, You must be improving with age... How long has it been since you said the "F" word? Aww hell, I'm so sorry, I never would have thought you would have forgotten it too! Will