Carl Beck

I seriously doubt that you talked to anyone at Hagerty. I and hundreds and hundreds of other Z car owners have dealt with them for decades - and none of us have been given that information. More than likely you talked to some local Insurance Agent that can handle business though the Hagerty and they are very badly mis-informed. FWIW, Carl B.

...it will continue running because.... you have a fuel return line to your tank, for fuel not used by the engine... If you have triple Webers for example, and you have eliminated the return - it will continue pumping when ever the fuel pressure drops in the pump... in that case you will hear it pump every few seconds once the lines are full...

It wouldn't be a fair price in my opinion. First, how many 3.5 R-180's would one find in that area of the country; and second on top of $125.00 price, there should have been at least a $25.00 delivery fee. If he didn't want to pay the delivery fee - let him pay the shipping $65.00 to $75.00... I'd say it was as steal for the buyer. I'd ask him why he believes it is an R-160 in the first place. Did he call you the same day or did this revelation take place after some third party told him it was an R-160.??? Ask him to tell you why he believes it's R-160... If his answer is that some one else told him - tell him it is too bad that person didn't come inspect it before the purchase was completed. The second alternative is to tell him to return it to your house - and give him his money back. I most certainly would NOT go get it 40 miles away.. It is "unlikely" but possible - - the PO might have found an R-160 with a 4.11 posi unit... out of some other vehicle. If that is the case - grab it back.. then resell it for $225.00. Just my opinion - but some buyers that don't bother to verify what they are buying - then later decide they shouldn't have bought it - shouldn't expect a return policy from the seller... FWIW, Carl B.

Actually there are as many shades of White as there are any other colors. Ask any body painter how hard it is to match whites on cars. Today, 40 years later...you might find slight color variations in the vinly on the door panels, the seat upholster and plastic panels in the car. The trick is finding a vinyl dye that matches your seats - then everything else usually has to be dyed to match. With that said - the original white in 240-Z's for 72 is what we call "white". I hasten to add that I've seen too many people use a very white white dye... and that is too blindingly white. The "off-white" actually came in 73 - if you place the two side by side, you can see the difference. The reason the 73's are off-white is because Flame Retardant interior materials had to be used for cars sold in the US that model year. That new material was every so slightly - off white. Kind of in between white and light cream. The "white in the Z" wasn't a problem - they sold very well in 73. However at the begining of the model run we started getting PL510's - Orange with Green interiors... very ugly... That is when we found out that several colors were held up, due to the new Flame Retardant Materials regulations. Nissan actually suppled new Black interiors for several of the ugly PL510's that would not sell otherwise. FWIW, Carl B.

First let me say that it looks from the pictures to be a very nice restomod - has some very good modifications etc - - - Put on the market for sale today - you might find buyers in the $10K to $14K range... although at $14K the paint and body work would have be pretty good...{to build it or duplicate it today - I'm sure you would have the initial price of the car PLUS $18K to $22K} With regular insurance, which would state ACV for collision/comp. coverage - if it was totalled/stolen - the Claims Adjustor would most likely offer $1,500.00 to $2,500.00 as the Actual Cash Value. With a lot of hassle, depending on how it was damaged - who was at fault - and if you had physical injuries... you might get them up to $5,000.00/$6500.00 range {IF YOU HAVE PHYSICAL INJURIES}. Next question - Has the Z been shown at local or national shows, and has it been Judged in 1st place in its Class.? If so, you MIGHT get the Claims Adjustor up to $8,500.00.... Looking at the Z - the next question is; "what did you pay for it?" and that is followed by "did you report the full purchase price and pay the sales tax on that amount?" If you did, you have a record of the selling price and thus proof of its fair market value ... if you didn't, you have no record that you can use in court. Also - it helps if your State issues a "Classic" or "Historic" license plate and you have taken that option. IF - the car was securely garaged, and used primarily for pleasure/show use... and if you are within the age group and have the driving record that the insurer will cover - I'd say you would not have a problem agreeing with the insurer on a Agreed Value of $18K to $21K. That would cost you about $150.00 PER YEAR. FWIW, Carl B.

I think it was the same buyer - only now 10 years older. Having lived day to day with the 240Z, the owners wanted better A/C, more heat/sound insulation, better door/window sealing and far better rust/corrosion resistance... Oh yes, and could I have cruise control and power windows please.. Most of these customers weren't actually looking for a better "sports car" so much as they wanted a better daily driver - that was "sporty". Just look at the modifications made even to 240Z's that the owners want to keep close to stock - they add heat/sound insulation, the do a better job of corrosion protection than original, most of the "want" better A/C... FWIW, Carl B.

If you are using a powder or liquid paint - surface prep is perhaps the most important step. The "quality" of the materials used in the paint, powder or liquid, is what is important to the durability / life-span of the finish. As I recall - - "Powder Coating" grew out of the process of electrostatic painting. Electrostatic painting was very useful for example, when the military and/or private companies had steel file cabinets. desks, office chairs etc - that needed to be repainted/refinished - in place, ie in the Office. So putting a negative charge on the object - then using a positive charge on the paint particles - resulted in next to no over-spray, and as importantly, it got paint on surfaces where it was otherwise hard to spray directly. A less expensive or lower quality "powder" is not going to be "better" than a higher quality liquid when both are applied properly. Powder or Liquid they are both "plastic finishes" and it is the quality of the polymers and compounds used that account for the qualities of the final finish. {holding process quality equal}. If possible in your area - check with a local shop that does Mil-Spec. finishes for DOD/NASA contractors. It is possible you will get a higher quality finish at the same price, or the same quality finish at a lower price from shops that have been in the business of supplying MilSpec standard finishes, than from the new start-up's doing powder coating. {automotive body shops aren't the only people that paint things} I like dealing with the Mil-Spec certified vendors because by and large they maintain better process controls. They are also far more knowledgeable about the available alternatives and standards of durability than most. FWIW, Carl B.

Start with this one - you will be WAY ahead... http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/datsun/240z/1127675.html FWIW, Carl B.

Your Z looks fabulous! Thanks for the Up-date. Do you have it registered for road use - and have you been able to get it out for a long drive yet? CarL B.

has slotted mag's on it now..

Hi Rich1 Not that it is any of our business - but what should we expect to pay a body shop for a metal job like that? Arne's was done very reasonably - but there is a large difference in a shops overhead between his location and yours. thanks, Carl

Thanks Mike - I just ordered a set. Don't really need them right now - but wanted to encourage more efforts like this. FWIW, Carl B.

Nice find Glenn - you should buy that matching color 510 as well :-) Reported from Australia & New Zeland: HS30 10469 has engine L24-078306 HS30 10481 has engine L24-078250 HS30 10517 has engine L24-078046 HS30 10527 has engine L24-077313 HS30 10552 has engine L24-078080 Thoes engine numbers would be found in US 240's with dates of mfg. 01/72 The range for Jan 72 so far reported goes from L24-077429 to L24-081097. So anything in that range would be pretty close. I agree with Mike - Great color. good luck with the project. Carl B.

I will say that I believe I know who bought it - but haven't heard from him since the auction ended. It may have gone to someone else...I'll have to wait and see.. In todays market I think $18K was a reasonable price for both the buyer and seller. Three years ago I'm sure it would have brought far more - three years from now it will too. It will certainly return far more fun than 2% interest on savings. FWIW, Carl B.

I don't believe that Jason meant to indicate that the car sold for $24,500.00 - he simply put SOLD beside the original asking price on the ad. FWIW, Carl B.

Hi Mike: No - I was going by the article about the Ferrari... didn't check the figures... it was the old F/GT record. Haven't found an "offical" source to check. http://www.bobnorwood.com/Ferrari%203%20Liter%20power%20on%20the%20salt.htm Andy Flagg's 2003 F/Production record still stands at 167.158 mph with his 2+2. But the reported records online are only the current or standing records. FWIW, Carl B.

NO sorry.. Carl

Thanks Mike - I think that was sensible of him.

Well do - good to see the car go to a person that will really appreicate it - and who can properly bring it back to 100%. I'm sure the seller was happy as well - FWIW, Carl B.

Looks great - was that a complete roof replacement? Carl

So the "reserve" must have been at $17,400.00 {yes/no?} I did not get the impression that the seller had any intention of taking the reserve off before it was meet. Carl B.

I'll ask him.. Carl

Burton Brown has sat a new Bonneville Record in his 1972 Datsun 240Z - 172.9 mph in Class F/GT. This has to be a stock bodied 240Z running between 2001cc and less than 3000cc displacement on gasoline. Burton ran his L6 on Carb's - beating the old record of 168.7 mph set by a 308 QV Ferrari running F.I.. Which in turn had beat the previous record of 161 mph, set in 1985 by... another Z. Burton said he would let me know when he has video's ready - watch the Z Car Home Page - I'll be putting hyper-links there when ready. WAY TO GOOOOO Burton! FWIW, Carl B.

This Orange 72 with 23K miles is now up to $17,305.00 and the reserve is still not meet. Less than two days to go... Will it break $19K ????

Hi John: Nothing wrong at all - - I seriously hope it does sell for $20K+.... I also agree that you never know until you try. The only thing I can think of - that might strike some as wrong - would be an uninformed buyer making an emotional decision - suffering the illusion based on the seller description, that he is getting a "new" car. Then finding out after the fact, that he has actually bought a low mileage 40 year old car that needs lots more work and money. On the other hand, the Yellow car has been for sale since at least March of this year - no takers at $19,500.00 and so far no takers at $25K. I was simply trying to point out to the OP why I believe the car wasn't selling in those price ranges. The owner can certainly keep it - and hold it until the values of the cars go back up with the economy. That however may be a few years - if he really wants to sell it - perhaps $18K today is better than $20K in a year or two, or $25K in three to four years. It is in the end the seller's choice. On the potential buyers side - they should at least be aware of the additional time and expense they are most likely to incur, and they should not expect to take that car to a National level show and expect that it would be a class winner. On the subject of original cars - - you are correct, there is a growing interest in what many marque clubs and Classic Car Clubs are referring to as "Survivor Class" vehicles. Where true "original", unrestored Classics are Judged in a Class by themselves. For the most part that seems to be cars that are at least 40 years old, and on which at least 90% of the car is actually "un-restored original". However even in that class - "original" is judged or graded by how close to "as it left the factory" all components are. In the case of this Yellow Z - it would lose a lot of points because of the deterioration mentioned. At the other end of the extreme - to date the best "original" S30 I've seen so far was the 78 Black Pearl with 650 m.o.l. miles. Cared for in the extreme since new - kept in an air conditioned/dehumidified environment. That was a #1 example by any judging standards. So these cars do exist - are rare in the extreme and priced accordingly. FWIW, Carl B.