On 10/9/2025 at 3:39 AM, Zed Head said:

So is this false advertising? Implies that the original color is red.

I've got a hunch - just a feeling in my bones - that the paint is not 'Amino Alkyd Enamel' either.

"False advertising"? Seriously? The repro paint sticker matches the re-paint and colour change. Do you think they should have used a sticker for the original green instead?

Some of the nitpicking here is beyond parody.

1 hour ago, zspert said:

Another reflection - yes, pun intended - of the immunity of our hobby.

Not immune to the occasional malapropism, however.

A buyer mght assume that it came "out of the factory" in red. If "out of the factory" is meaningless then your point is valid.

Changing the sticker removes a significant piece of provenance. If provenance is unimportant then your point is valid. Why not leave the green color code sticker?

If provenance is unimportant then changing anything on the car is "okay". Replica body panels, paint, engine (just grind and re"stamp" the numbers on the engine or have alternate ID plates created), etc. Originality doesn't matter. Just have alternates created of all of the things that collectors usually inspect for originality. Create an alternative reality Z car.

Sorry D.C.

Sorry, meant immaturity

1 hour ago, Zed Head said:

A buyer mght assume that it came "out of the factory" in red. If "out of the factory" is meaningless then your point is valid.

Changing the sticker removes a significant piece of provenance. If provenance is unimportant then your point is valid. Why not leave the green color code sticker?

A buyer - or anyone else - might assume anything at all, right or wrong.

But you're already on the head of that pin, positing that provenance is either important or unimportant, with no mention of the pragmatism required when dealing with 55 year old cars existing in the huge gap between those two positions.

And if changing paint stickers 'removes provenance' then every car with a repro sticker - no matter if it has just the right amount of shine - is a demerit.

1 hour ago, Zed Head said:

If provenance is unimportant then changing anything on the car is "okay". Replica body panels, paint, engine (just grind and re"stamp" the numbers on the engine or have alternate ID plates created), etc. Originality doesn't matter. Just have alternates created of all of the things that collectors usually inspect for originality. Create an alternative reality Z car.

...and reductio ad absurdum.

Ask zspert about his "alternates created of all the things that collectors usually inspect for originality".

Originality is nice, but its not an infinite resource. It is necessary - for the continuation of our hobby - to repair and replace. There are industries dedicated to that end. There's not a car owned by the members of this site that would be an example of total originality. It is an impossibility and your theory is nonsense, even hypothetically.

Naah. It's just about honest disclosure. That's all.

As usual, you've twisted something simple in to a mass of convoluted irrationality. To what end, who knows.

Again, sorry DC. I imagine that you can see how these things start. It's not a pissing battle. It's just one guy who feels like he can wizz wherever he wants to.

Zed Head- Amen

36 minutes ago, Zed Head said:

Naah. It's just about honest disclosure. That's all.

Ha ha. This is the world of used car sales we are talking about here. You even presume that the seller knows everything about the car?

40 minutes ago, Zed Head said:

As usual, you've twisted something simple in to a mass of convoluted irrationality. To what end, who knows.

That's your schtick. Own it.

43 minutes ago, Zed Head said:

Again, sorry DC. I imagine that you can see how these things start. It's not a pissing battle. It's just one guy who feels like he can wizz wherever he wants to.

Don't make me laugh. Last week you were dissing the staff and work of S30.World on this thread for all you were worth - whilst demonstrating at the same time that you knew nothing about them ("just seling car parts") - and then when the boss and a few other well-respected 'consultants' show up and post here in reply you're suddenly the wide-mouthed frog adding 'likes' to their posts. How come you didn't ask a few of them whether they had "stock options", a "paying position" or are "on the board"?

Anyone with any sense can see how you operate.