Posted January 2, 20196 yr comment_565011 Hey, I just put some 3-2 headers on my 78 EFI z and once I cranked it over and got it warmed up, it doesn't run right. I have 32 psi fuel pressure, labeled all connectors and lines when I took them off. I can't see where I went wrong. It is running extremely rich, will not rev, needs gas pedal to start. It sound like I am missing spark but I'm not sure how this would have happened? I didn't touch the distributor at all. Thoughts? I can post some pictures of the engine if that would be helpful. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61341-wont-run-right-after-headers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 2, 20196 yr comment_565012 Intake manifold leaks...maybe. Although I would suspect lean not rich on manifold leaks Edited January 2, 20196 yr by Patcon Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61341-wont-run-right-after-headers/#findComment-565012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 2, 20196 yr Author comment_565014 7 minutes ago, Patcon said: Intake manifold leaks...maybe. Although I would suspect lean not rich on manifold leaks my thought exactly. My foot needs to be on the gas for it to run at all. It runs so rich theres a cloud behind the car. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61341-wont-run-right-after-headers/#findComment-565014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 2, 20196 yr comment_565015 22 minutes ago, Pochie45566 said: 78 EFI z It would help if you could add a lot more detail. Many possibilities. Sounds like your coolant temperature sensor is unplugged or on the wrong terminal. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61341-wont-run-right-after-headers/#findComment-565015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 2, 20196 yr Author comment_565018 Just now, Zed Head said: It would help if you could add a lot more detail. Many possibilities. Sounds like your coolant temperature sensor is unplugged or on the wrong terminal. I just swapped the two, and no change. Still does not want to start and runs horribly. It is a 78' 280, Stock EFI system, new injectors, water temp sensor, maf, AAR. It ran fine before the headers and had no issues. It just now idles low, doesn't want to rev, runs rich. I got new studs when I did the system so none of them broke off and all are torqued down pretty well. I checked for any spots air could be getting into the fuel lines because I did have to take off the rail. Nothing came up. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61341-wont-run-right-after-headers/#findComment-565018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 2, 20196 yr comment_565020 Edit - misread your message. If you have a meter, your most effective troubleshooting will probably be at the ECU connector in the cabin. Get The Fuel Injection Book and start probing. Something will show up. Good luck. p.s. was the 32 psi with the engine running or not? Check the FPR vacuum hose for fuel. Maybe your FPR went bad. Edited January 2, 20196 yr by Zed Head Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61341-wont-run-right-after-headers/#findComment-565020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 2, 20196 yr comment_565021 Could also be a pinched/shorted injector wire. It will cause the injector to stay open. That will show up on the ECU connector test also. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61341-wont-run-right-after-headers/#findComment-565021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 2, 20196 yr comment_565022 What do plugs look like? Soot? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61341-wont-run-right-after-headers/#findComment-565022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 2, 20196 yr Author comment_565023 18 minutes ago, Zed Head said: Edit - misread your message. If you have a meter, your most effective troubleshooting will probably be at the ECU connector in the cabin. Get The Fuel Injection Book and start probing. Something will show up. Good luck. p.s. was the 32 psi with the engine running or not? Check the FPR vacuum hose for fuel. Maybe your FPR went bad. The 32 PSI was with the engine off. I did have to mess with the FPR a bit to get it to clear the throttle linkage maybe I messed it up. . I will go in there and do the component checks stated in the EFI bible. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61341-wont-run-right-after-headers/#findComment-565023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 2, 20196 yr Author comment_565024 Just now, 240260280 said: What do plugs look like? Soot? Considering I haven't ran it enough to foul them I think they're ok but yes, sooty. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61341-wont-run-right-after-headers/#findComment-565024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 2, 20196 yr comment_565025 3 minutes ago, Pochie45566 said: The 32 PSI was with the engine off. 36+ is spec. If you had a hole in the FPR you might get a lower reading but fuel pouring in to the intake manifold. Pull the vacuum hose and run the fuel pump. See if the FPR squirts fuel from the vacuum fitting. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61341-wont-run-right-after-headers/#findComment-565025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 2, 20196 yr comment_565026 Check connections and wiring to coolant temperature sensor. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/61341-wont-run-right-after-headers/#findComment-565026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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