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Hello,

My name is Bart, and I've been on this forum before in the past, when I had a 73 240Z. That project never made it to much rust, and I sold it for parts. It's been quiet for a while,and personally I kept thinking of owning another 240Z in the future, but good ones are expensive here in The Netherlands, compared to the US. But since I started my own company, things got better financially, and last year I was able to afford myself another 240Z. This time a 71. -> HLS30 32581

Well I had to share it with you guys offcourse, here are the Z enthousiasts ! :classic:

Learned from the past on the rust problems, I decided that I didn't want a " that kind of a project " anymore. The old Z cars are almost impossible to find overhere, but oneday thanks to some add on some classic car site, I ended up finding Joop Stolze Classic Cars in the West, and he had about 12 + z's standing there :eek: ...

Here's his website: Joop Stolze Classic Cars

This Z is imported from the USA, and I even got the previous owners information with it.

See here:

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They where ranged different prices, but all where i quite a good shape. So I decided to take one with a little work to be done for a lower price, it had bad spots on the floor and a bit in the front, but this needed just a little welding. It looked liked the previous owner had jacked the floors up :mad:

As it looked then when I picked it up:

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Because of my work, I don't have much time to work on the Z, cause I'm busy everyday untill late. I went looking for a classic car repair shop, and eventually found one, not far from my hometown.

The car still needs Dutch license plates, but this will be done soon, when it's goes for the road safety check.

Things that needed to be done where:

- Engine tune up

- Welding to the floors and front inside fenders.

- New underbody coating.

- Overhaul of brakes and suspension/bushes etc.

- Rear bumper repair

- Electrical repair, also alot of meters on the dash did not function.

- Master brake cylinder replacement

- small detail things exterior and interior. ( radio, antenna, etc )

- doors alignment = hell !

- EU headlights with integrated parking lights.

- must be forgetting something!

All that's left now, is some piece of the heater/blower towards the central panel, and dovetails ( for the doors ).

Here are some pictures:

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And now we are almost done:

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Hope you like it.

Bart.

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Hello Bart,

Welcome back to the forum and congratulations on purchasing your 240Z! I immediately noticed the car was previously registered in Iowa. It was located near Des Moines, which is about 2 hours west from where I live in Cedar Rapids, IA. Before finding the 240Z I bought last summer, I used to spend hours online looking at cars for sale and documenting cars that were nearby. When I saw the photos of your Z something looked familiar and then I realized this car was for sale in De Soto, IA last year on Craigslist! Actually, it first went up for sale 2011 and then was relisted in early 2012 (on both Craigslist and Ebay). I've uploaded photos of the car when it was back in the States here:

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/members/ehlersrs-albums-bart-s-1971-240z.html

It appears to have the normal "midwest" rust, but looks a lot better than most examples I've seen around here. The original ad stated it had interior work, such as new seat covers and carpet. It's also great to see the previous owners kept the original documentation and records.

Congratulations again and keep us posted on your progress!

Robert S.

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Thanks Robert and Dennis :)

That information is really cool ! Thank you. I will store those pictures and information with the other paperwork I have.

Maybe we can even track the first and last owner that would be fun?! As you can see on the pictures, the last owner seemed to be Alan Foster,van Gundy and the first owner Hertel R.E Jr ? As shown on the warranty card.

The bodywork and interior was indeed not bad. But the previous owner did a scrappy even dangerous job on the floorpan repair, as he seemed to have used sheet metal and popnailed it to the floor over the rust....

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Bart,

It was great meeting you and glad to hear you enjoyed the photos of your car. I still can't believe not long ago it was just a few hours from here and now it's half way around the world! I've talked to all of the previous owners of my car, including the original owner who is now 81. He had some great stories to share about the car and his past experiences. I was hoping to located a photo of the car from the original and second owner, but they didn't seem to take any. Anyway, it looks like Alan VanGundy still lives in Iowa, so he would be easy to contact. Does the paperwork indicate how many previous owners there were? My car came with the maintainence records up to 1988, so I was able to track down the owners. I browsed through your previous rebuild posts and agree this new car is in much better condition than your last Z. I'd guess your previous car had more rust than mine and it spent most of it's life in Illinois. Well, if you'd like help tracking down the previous owners I'd be glad to help!

Robert S.

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seemed to have used sheet metal and popnailed it to the floor over the rust....

Hi Bart, Welcome to the club. I think you mean "pop rivited". Thats a really nice Z you got. Like you said, they are hard to find in Europe. Everthing thats still on the road comes from the states or its never left the garage in the winter or rainy days.

Goodluck with the restoration and those floorpans.

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Hi EuroDat, yes that's the word, '' popnagels '' in our language :)

The car is almost done, we allready repaired the floorpans.

This was the best option, going a Euro Z will be fighting rust like madness :D

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Bart,

It was great meeting you and glad to hear you enjoyed the photos of your car. I still can't believe not long ago it was just a few hours from here and now it's half way around the world! I've talked to all of the previous owners of my car, including the original owner who is now 81. He had some great stories to share about the car and his past experiences. I was hoping to located a photo of the car from the original and second owner, but they didn't seem to take any. Anyway, it looks like Alan VanGundy still lives in Iowa, so he would be easy to contact. Does the paperwork indicate how many previous owners there were? My car came with the maintainence records up to 1988, so I was able to track down the owners. I browsed through your previous rebuild posts and agree this new car is in much better condition than your last Z. I'd guess your previous car had more rust than mine and it spent most of it's life in Illinois. Well, if you'd like help tracking down the previous owners I'd be glad to help!

Robert S.

Hello Robert,

Isn't it nice to learn some history :) ? Yeah, it's indeed now on the other side of the atlantic.. It seems Joop Stolze bought the car, and according to your post, it stood there for about 11 months, then I bought it. So lucky, not standing still that long..

I looked at the paperwork, the last owner I can find:

Alan VanGundy

35754 Nome CT

De Soto, IA 50069 ( Date on repair bill says 05/24/2010 )

He also seems to have an old adress(es) ?:

VanGundy, Alan Foster

250 NE Dartmoor Ln 17

Waukee, IA 50263

Alan VanGundy

227 Summertree Ln

Lawrence KS 66049

What I also found in the paperwork:

Steven Campbell

446 Michigan

Law, KS 66044 ( date repair bill 4/24/1987, and also a loan check for financing the car I think from 1/3/1987 )

First owner? :

Hertel R E JR

5244 Foxridge dr

Shawnee Missionks 66202 ( Date 07/27/1971 )

If you can help that would be very nice :)

Bart

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I browsed through your previous rebuild posts and agree this new car is in much better condition than your last Z. I'd guess your previous car had more rust than mine and it spent most of it's life in Illinois.

Yeah that first one, was a total rust bucket, but also a good learner on old Z's... Most parts went okay, I just messed up the floors by cutting it to fast, without looking how it was original, but it could have been okay if it where to be a Hybrid? Anyhow if I had finished to body, alle the other parts where still a drama, so in that time I figured to go for another Z in the future instead. But they are very rare here in the Netherlands, let alone Europe. So it was a nightmare finding a good one, till one day I traced down Joop Stolze by some add. I was like " wow " this place is amazing... like a secret barn find...

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Hi Bart -

Alan VanGundy here - previous owner of your '71 before it crossed the pond! It's great to have found you and hear these updates on "my" 240!

As a couple other members noted, I had the car for sale locally but ended up selling it to Stolze on Ebay. When the car left on an auto transport to the Netherlands, I figured it was the last time I would see it or hear of it. Small world indeed! I had found pictures of it on Stolze's website but I'm glad to learn it has found a permenant home.

I was on these forums regularly when I owned the Z but haven't been around much since selling it. Imagine my surprise today when I found your comment on the Youtube video and finding this thread on Classic Z. I imagine it might have equaled your surprise when you found YOUR 240 on Youtube!

Anyway, I have owned several "classic" cars and always appreciated knowing their history so I'm glad you received the paperwork I sent along with the car. I'll be happy to chat with you more and share comments on the car.

Alan V.

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Bart: Sorry I haven't responded, the last few weeks have been busy! I'll see what I can found out about the other owners (Steven Campbell and Hertel R E JR). Since Hertel's name is on the warranty card, I'm sure he's the original owner. That was the case with the original owner of my car. I also browsed through Stolze's website and was amazed to see all of those Z's in one place! I hope the progress on your car is coming along.

Alan: Glad to hear from you! After seeing photos of Bart's new Z it looked awfuly familiar. :) I was still saving to buy a Z when I ran across the ads for your car in Iowa. I was also surprised to see the car show up in the Netherlands. Also, I enjoyed seeing the pohtos of the car on your user profile. Good to meet you and it's nice to meet another Z fan in Iowa!

Robert S.

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Robert, obviously we have exchanged messages previously since you had additional pictures of the Z. Hopefully you found a great car since we last talked. Sadly, there is no Z car in my garage right now, but you never know what the future holds - I dare say, it might be a 350Z roadster ...

Anyway, I bought Bart's 240 from Steve Campbell in about 2003. Steve lived down the street from me when I lived in Kansas. He had owned her for something like 17 years prior, but it had been sitting in his garage idle for a long time before I bought it and toke it home ... 3 blocks away. I'm betting Steve would like to hear from Bart and find out his Z is in good hands in the Netherlands! I've lost track of Steve but I doubt he would be hard to find. On the other hand, I never had and contact with the original owner and I'm not sure if there was anyone else before Campbell. It will be interesting to hear what develops! I'd be willing to help if needed as well.

Alan V.

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Hello Alan,

Nice to meet you! By chance I found this youtube video and didn't know if you would respond, but rather quick ! It must be nice for you also to find your Z back! It's in good hands. It needed alot of work to be done, but so far it's roadworthy again, and it will go up for check the 13th of Februari, hope it passes the first time.

The engine still needs work, but it's running good for now, you got any history on that?

@ Robert and Alan, it would be really cool to track back the other owners, and even the first one! ( if possible ).

Well i'll be posting more pics and maybe a video when the weather will be better.

I really like the color by the way! Will be painting it the same color again when it needs repaint.

Bart.

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Bart: Sorry I haven't responded, the last few weeks have been busy! I'll see what I can found out about the other owners (Steven Campbell and Hertel R E JR). Since Hertel's name is on the warranty card, I'm sure he's the original owner. That was the case with the original owner of my car. I also browsed through Stolze's website and was amazed to see all of those Z's in one place! I hope the progress on your car is coming along.

Alan: Glad to hear from you! After seeing photos of Bart's new Z it looked awfuly familiar. :) I was still saving to buy a Z when I ran across the ads for your car in Iowa. I was also surprised to see the car show up in the Netherlands. Also, I enjoyed seeing the pohtos of the car on your user profile. Good to meet you and it's nice to meet another Z fan in Iowa!

Robert S.

Plenty of time, no hurries :) I was also amazed to find so much Datsun Z at Joop Stolze, since they are almost no where to be found here. It's not like his place had a huge billboard or something LOL, nothing at all... that was the most amazing thing, like a barn find..

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Alan,

We never actually met before now. When I ran across cars that interested me, I would save the photos from the sale ads. I remember when yours first went up for sale on Craigslist. Of course living in Iowa, I'm always excited to meet other Z owners in the area. Last June I bought a '71 from Peoria, IL to restore. Your Z didn't have much rust underneath. Mine has the usual Midwest rust because it spent it's life in Peoria. I have been fortunate enough to talk to all of the previous owners, including the original owner who is now 81 years old. He had some good stories to share about the car. I'm still waiting for Spring to really get started on the car.

Hopefully there is another Z in your future. I don't even see many 350ZX's around here. Perhaps you could be one of the first owners of the new Z coming out in 2014? :)

Robert S.

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If failed today on some points for the APK ( road safety check ). I drove the car back to the company that has done the work, and they will repair those points it failed, so next week i'll go back again, and then it should be fine.

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Mostly the things I need to do when it's home, are engine (bay ) work. And some more on rust protection.

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I thought I was having a stroke - until I realized it's in "Netherlandic"!! Good luck getting it back through - you'll be cruizing - and upgrading - soon!!

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Thanks e-tek :)

I went back to RDW today, but it still failed on the rear left brake :( ( dissapointed because I payed to get the job done ) , anyway I have it back home now, and will repair myself. Just checked and the brake cilinder rear left is leaking, so will get that repared tomorrow, and go back again for the final time ;)

Here's some pics from today:

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Thanks :) I hope to get back to the RDW this week. I'm waiting for my brake cilinder to be repaired. Brought them to a specialised company I know, I also let them do both brake shoes with new segments, since there was not much left on them.

There's still many small things to do on the Z, but will do that during the summer months.

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Still waiting for brake cilinder and rubber seals, so in the meanwhile I started on the passenger door when I had some time between work, cleaned up the inside of all loose rust, opened up the drain holes in the bottom and spraying tectyl wax inside, then covering the holes with plastic and using double sided tape to keep the doorpanel on.

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Nice Z and nice Frenchie? (French Bulldog)? I have a black and white Frenchie too :) Haven't take her for a ride in the Z yet but she is quite a car loving dog and will once I get better at driving it.

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