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    After a long time i got some parts for my Z-project again.
    The first item is a book about Yutaka "Mr. K Katayama". Some people think that his role with the Z is a bit overrated by the average media. But since the book is written originally by Japanese Takashi Ashikawa  in japanese and has been translated since. i guess there might be more truth behind it than the average glorifying of Mr. K.
    I haven't read a single word so i have to dive into it first befor i can say anything more..
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    It might sound repetitive but the coolest things i tend to find when i don't look for them. I have seen the "competition" steering wheel for sale in the usual Z-specialist shops but i never planned to buy one. Unti recently one popped up new for a good price in a local secondhand website.DSC_0123-Kopie.jpg

    It even came with the Japanese "fairlady Z" Horn button. A bit of research before purchase revealed that this is most probably one of the pretty good JDM-car-parts replica items based on an original Mold (o a mold from an original competition steering wheel). Anyhow the quality is outstanding and it's nice to have!

    And here some siza comparison shots take next to the original "fake wood" steering wheel
    of my 1972 Z's:
    DSC_0124-Kopie.jpg DSC_0125-Kopie.jpg

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    Those "competition" steering wheels were introduced (to my knowledge) years after the original S30 was released (back then a different steering wheel was optionally available) but has sine been a popular mod on the 240Z and or Fairlady Z with prices for original ones skyrocketing. As far as i know t his has also been sold for the "Hakosuka" skyline but with different horn buttons. I'm not 100% sure but i believe to remember that there was even a second version of this steering wheel which was deeper. but i might be wrong.
    Here's a shot from the 1979 Nissan sports option catalogue:
    Competition-steering-wheel-Kopie.jpg

    After all it's a really nice piece to have so i'm happy with my purchase 🙂

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    25 minutes ago, JDMjunkies.ch said:

    After a long time i got some parts for my Z-project again.
    The first item is a book about Yutaka "Mr. K Katayama". Some people think that his role with the Z is a bit overrated by the average media. But since the book is written originally by Japanese Takashi Ashikawa  in japanese and has been translated since. i guess there might be more truth behind it than the average glorifying of Mr. K.
    I haven't read a single word so i have to dive into it first befor i can say anything more..
    DSC_0122-Kopie-rotated-e1575913258423.jp

    DSC_0121-Kopie-rotated.jpg

     

    It was written by a 'fan', and translated by 'fans'/friends. In fact Katayama san was (Christian) Godfather to Brian and Miho Long's first child. And 'Edited' by Mike Taylor...?

    The fact that the original was written by a Japanese author doesn't necessarily mean it is completely objective, and the fact that the English translation has the strapline 'Father Of The Z' should tell you what to expect. There are plenty of Japanese people who completely subscribe to the Mr K Legend, and some who are a little more evenly balanced in their view of events. I think it is wise to listen to both sides and make your own mind up about what is being exaggerated and what is not.  

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    37 minutes ago, JDMjunkies.ch said:

    It might sound repetitive but the coolest things i tend to find when i don't look for them. I have seen the "competition" steering wheel for sale in the usual Z-specialist shops but i never planned to buy one. Unti recently one popped up new for a good price in a local secondhand website.DSC_0123-Kopie.jpg

    It even came with the Japanese "fairlady Z" Horn button. A bit of research before purchase revealed that this is most probably one of the pretty good JDM-car-parts replica items based on an original Mold (o a mold from an original competition steering wheel). Anyhow the quality is outstanding and it's nice to have!

    And here some siza comparison shots take next to the original "fake wood" steering wheel
    of my 1972 Z's:
    DSC_0124-Kopie.jpg DSC_0125-Kopie.jpg

    DSC_0126-Kopie.jpg

    Those "competition" steering wheels were introduced (to my knowledge) years after the original S30 was released (back then a different steering wheel was optionally available) but has sine been a popular mod on the 240Z and or Fairlady Z with prices for original ones skyrocketing. As far as i know t his has also been sold for the "Hakosuka" skyline but with different horn buttons. I'm not 100% sure but i believe to remember that there was even a second version of this steering wheel which was deeper. but i might be wrong.
    Here's a shot from the 1979 Nissan sports option catalogue:
    Competition-steering-wheel-Kopie.jpg

    After all it's a really nice piece to have so i'm happy with my purchase 🙂

    They certainly dated from well before 1979. I have an original that was given to me by a friend who bought it new in 1973.

    And then there's this:

     

    Early Izumi Datsun Compe-1.JPG

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    2 minutes ago, HS30-H said:

    They certainly dated from well before 1979. I have an original that was given to me by a friend who bought it new in 1973.

    And then there's this:

     

    Early Izumi Datsun Compe-1.JPG

    Thats a rare ”compe” wheel, i think i have only seen a handful pics of them.

    Mach wheel to the left i guess?

    Big envy...

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    20 minutes ago, HS30-H said:

    They certainly dated from well before 1979. I have an original that was given to me by a friend who bought it new in 1973.

    And then there's this:

    Early Izumi Datsun Compe-1.JPG

    I don't want to contradict. I just was refering to my Japanese Sport option catalogues which i have.
    All of them from 1971.11 to 1973.12 still list the "Izumi" type steering wheel as the optional item. (which seems to be the one to the left in your photo)
    And then the next sport option catalogue which i have is from 1979.10 which is the the oldest one i have which lists this type of steering wheel.

    Also i just noticed that the one you have has the holes covered? do you have any background information on this?

    23 minutes ago, HS30-H said:

    It was written by a 'fan', and translated by 'fans'/friends. In fact Katayama san was (Christian) Godfather to Brian and Miho Long's first child. And 'Edited' by Mike Taylor...?

    The fact that the original was written by a Japanese author doesn't necessarily mean it is completely objective, and the fact that the English translation has the strapline 'Father Of The Z' should tell you what to expect. There are plenty of Japanese people who completely subscribe to the Mr K Legend, and some who are a little more evenly balanced in their view of events. I think it is wise to listen to both sides and make your own mind up about what is being exaggerated and what is not.  

    Yeah i was thinking the same. but i thought it might be closer to the original story than most other english books. However i tend to read these kind of books with a big grain of salt and it's more of an entertainment thing when i have a few free minutes.

     

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    5 hours ago, JDMjunkies.ch said:

    I don't want to contradict. I just was refering to my Japanese Sport option catalogues which i have.
    All of them from 1971.11 to 1973.12 still list the "Izumi" type steering wheel as the optional item. (which seems to be the one to the left in your photo)
    And then the next sport option catalogue which i have is from 1979.10 which is the the oldest one i have which lists this type of steering wheel.
     

    The 'Datsun Compe' steering wheel was not unique to the Z. It was a generic Sports Option part listed for other Nissan models too.

    Izumi was the OEM manufacturer of the stock wood-composite S30-series Z steering wheels and the 'Datsun Compe' steering wheels. You are thinking of the 'Mach' Nissan sports/race option steering wheel, like this:

     

    Ura Mach-1.JPG

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    Got some more news from my bodyshop. Nothing big, but another step closer to a finished shell. The spare wheel well is back in and primered with rust protection and also sealed:
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    Just another update from my Metal-wizard. The driver side lower frame has been cutout
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    A new piece has been fabricated
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    And now it's back in. I guess the next big part will be the LH rear quarter and inner wheel well.. I'll go to have a closeup look soon 🙂
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    So, My panelbeater started work on the passenger side floors. Those hungarian-made floor pans came in.. before:
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    After: Still have to be welded etc. but overall fitment looks nice.
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    Here is the bottom side fitment together with the NOS frame rails. Seems pretty spot-on!
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    Well yeah, i have yet another two new books to add to my ever evolving list of Z-related books i have to read and translate when i find some time.
    1) Fairlady Z Story and history, Vol. 1 - The 50th Anniversary Chronicles.
    A book about the history of the Z including the development
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    It contains some backgroundinformation. for example about road testing in America:
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    And some of the racing cars. I've just been flicking through it yet, but it seems it seems to focus on the car globally with pictures showing old woking station, american race cars but also the japanese. so this might be an interessteing one 🙂
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    2) Japanese masterpiece series [Vol.12] - Nissan Fairlady
    This book is actually a bit older (released in August 1973).
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    The cool thing is, it contains some backgronud information but also a lot of nice drawings and technical information about the different version. as shown below.
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    Still have to read it as well, but they seem to be (aside from the factory books) some of the more promising and serious books i bought. But i still have to prove my initial feelings about them 🙂
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    Two weeks ago i found a footrest for the 240Z for sale on a local ads-website. I remember i've seen them before but never really investigated about them. Both my cars came without them. This particular item was from a 260Z 2+2 and got a fair price-tag, so naturally it gathered my interrest.
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    Turns out that the parts fiches say that it's the same unit as used in the 240Z (both LHD and RHD) and was an optional item. I love optional stuff. and since it was cheap and seemed to be in easy restoreable shape, i had to get it 🙂
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    And yesterday i finally got the package with it. It's a bit rough around the edges but when in bring my next bunch uf parts for sandblasting and powerdercoating this will go in the same delivery:
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    I'm not really sure how "rare" this item is, but i think i've never seen it on a swiss car. And as a serious parts-hoarder i love to collect these things anyway 🙂
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    Nothing huge to show you, but i got another update from my Bodyshop guy. The area behind the passenger seat got formed out of a piece of sheetmetal and installed. ready to weld in all of that stuff, including the floorpan.
    WhatsApp-Image-2020-02-03-at-16.53.34-Ko

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    On 2/3/2020 at 11:13 AM, JDMjunkies.ch said:

    Two weeks ago i found a footrest for the 240Z for sale on a local ads-website. I remember i've seen them before but never really investigated about them. Both my cars came without them. This particular item was from a 260Z 2+2 and got a fair price-tag, so naturally it gathered my interrest.
    fiche-footrest-Kopie.jpg

    Turns out that the parts fiches say that it's the same unit as used in the 240Z (both LHD and RHD) and was an optional item. I love optional stuff. and since it was cheap and seemed to be in easy restoreable shape, i had to get it 🙂
    P1260662-Kopie.jpg

    And yesterday i finally got the package with it. It's a bit rough around the edges but when in bring my next bunch uf parts for sandblasting and powerdercoating this will go in the same delivery:
    P1260663-Kopie.jpg

    I'm not really sure how "rare" this item is, but i think i've never seen it on a swiss car. And as a serious parts-hoarder i love to collect these things anyway 🙂
    P1260665-Kopie.jpg

    Footrest is cool!  I have never seen one of those!

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    The foot rests were standard items on JDM cars. My 1972, FZ-L has it. 

    Note that the floor has reinforcing where it bolts through. 

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    Passenger footrest was standard equipment on 'DELUXE' models in Japan, and an extra-cost showroom order option on 'STANDARD' models.

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    On 2/3/2020 at 6:13 PM, JDMjunkies.ch said:

    Two weeks ago i found a footrest for the 240Z for sale on a local ads-website. I remember i've seen them before but never really investigated about them. Both my cars came without them. This particular item was from a 260Z 2+2 and got a fair price-tag, so naturally it gathered my interrest.
    fiche-footrest-Kopie.jpg

    Turns out that the parts fiches say that it's the same unit as used in the 240Z (both LHD and RHD) and was an optional item. I love optional stuff. and since it was cheap and seemed to be in easy restoreable shape, i had to get it 🙂
    P1260662-Kopie.jpg

    And yesterday i finally got the package with it. It's a bit rough around the edges but when in bring my next bunch uf parts for sandblasting and powerdercoating this will go in the same delivery:
    P1260663-Kopie.jpg

    I'm not really sure how "rare" this item is, but i think i've never seen it on a swiss car. And as a serious parts-hoarder i love to collect these things anyway 🙂
    P1260665-Kopie.jpg

    I think they are rare outside Japan. I have had a few come through my hands, and there is slight differences between them, about 5 or 6. As you see yours has both "feet" facing the same way, and the bottom of the feet are square.

    https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g375566873

    As you see, the "feet" face each other, and bottom of the feet are rounded.

    There is also differences in the bolts to fix the footrest to the car, some are round headed like yours, some are slotted head. And the rivet holding the hoop and the feet differs too.

    If you blast it, cover the ribbed rubber bit, as these aren't avaliable, I had to reproduce it for my footrests.

     

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    13 hours ago, grannyknot said:

    Your guy seems to do very good work so I'm kind of surprised to see those rivets, I would ask him to weld it.

    Are you sure they're rivets? I thought they were self tapping screws for temporary purposes

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    14 minutes ago, Patcon said:

    Are you sure they're rivets? I thought they were self tapping screws for temporary purposes

    Oh I think you are right!  My faith in his bodyman has been restored🤣 I just saw how shiny they were and assumed they aluminum rivets,  using zip screws is exactly how I do it too. Need new glasses.

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    16 hours ago, RIP260Z said:

    I think they are rare outside Japan. I have had a few come through my hands, and there is slight differences between them, about 5 or 6. As you see yours has both "feet" facing the same way, and the bottom of the feet are square.

    https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g375566873

    As you see, the "feet" face each other, and bottom of the feet are rounded.

    There is also differences in the bolts to fix the footrest to the car, some are round headed like yours, some are slotted head. And the rivet holding the hoop and the feet differs too.

    If you blast it, cover the ribbed rubber bit, as these aren't avaliable, I had to reproduce it for my footrests.

     

    Hi Ian , you are very accurate about the detail of the foot rest  , yes the one in Yahoo auction is the correct for the Fairlady Z from the beginning (Oct 1969 ) to 1973 or later .

    scotta , also a good observation about the reinforcement for the foot rest , early Fairlady Z series ( unknown time period) doesn’t have the patch on the floor. Please see my silver 01/1970 Z432 , there is no reinforcement on the floor (I put a big washer to prevent the floor from being bent , that is not original) . My 06/1972 Fairlady 240ZG has reinforcement patches .

    Kats

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    @KatZ

    I am curious about your floor mat. Is it a Custom Version? I have an aftermarket version that is very similar to the photos here except is chrome not black  It is new and still in the original box.

     

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    2 hours ago, kats said:

    Hi Ian , you are very accurate about the detail of the foot rest  , yes the one in Yahoo auction is the correct for the Fairlady Z from the beginning (Oct 1969 ) to 1973 or later .

    scotta , also a good observation about the reinforcement for the foot rest , early Fairlady Z series ( unknown time period) doesn’t have the patch on the floor. Please see my silver 01/1970 Z432 , there is no reinforcement on the floor (I put a big washer to prevent the floor from bending it  , that is not original) . My 06/1972 Fairlady 240ZG has reinforcement patches .

    Kats

    Thanks a lot for your insight and pictures on this. very interresting with the two versions, Patches, etc.  Will definitely have to investigate a bit further on this topic.

    15 hours ago, Patcon said:

    Are you sure they're rivets? I thought they were self tapping screws for temporary purposes

    Haha yeah they are definitely self tapping screws for holding the metals together temporary. Rivets will only be used where there were rivets from factory side...

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    2 hours ago, 7tooZ said:

    @KatZ

    I am curious about your floor mat. Is it a Custom Version? I have an aftermarket version that is very similar to the photos here except is chrome not black  It is new and still in the original box.

     

    Hi , the floor mat is made by Mr.Sudo with very close to the original material , loop pile carpet . I am so happy with it . What part of the carpet “ chrome or black “ are you referring to ?

    Kats

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    I found a good example, this August or September 1970 Fairlady Z (S30S , Z-std) 

    has already patches for the foot rest , but this car is a S30S , the most plain , simple model so there is no foot rest . When you want it , you just make a hole to slot in the bolt . 
     

    Kats

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