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Bought a set of 195/70/14's for Otto today. Only size available to fit the car in a 200 mile radius. $472 bucks! Ho Lee Kee Rap! I worked at a tire store for years in the 80's and felt bad when it broke the $200 mark. 7 bucks for a metal valve stem?? Some song and dance about tariffs on Chinese tires.

But, it did drive better, all 3/4 of a mile home. The old Aqua Treads were just over 20 years old and had been setting for at least the last 16. Couldn't get the flat spots out and the dry rot in the grooves made me nervous, but $472??

Ugh!

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Ever hear of "Tire Rack?" And you could possibly have ordered what you wanted, rather than "settle" for what was there.

Just a thought.

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Looked there. In the end, it would have been the same. Can't get a 215/60/14 unless it is a bfg ta. Wasn't what I wanted. By the time shipping and mounting, even the cheapies were over the top expensive.

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Performance rubber is not cheap and since 14 inch tires are getting rare (unless you own a Mini) expect to pay at least $300 to $400 for a set. But new rubber gives you a certain piece of mind. I expect to pay about $500 to $600 for mine.

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I bought Toyo 908 Eclipse from Les Schwab Tire (70,000 mile warranty). They charged me $7.50 for a chrome sleeved rubber valve stem when I specifically asked for a metal stem (slotted aluminum mag wheels). I am feeling just a little bit violated and will be back in the morning. They can have the stems back! Good looking tire (for mini van tires) but nothing else available (some really poor cheapies). Next nearest town is 100 miles.

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Yeah, next time... tirerack.com

Very cheap. Most tire shops will do the mounting for you and won't even make you feel bad that you mail-ordered them.

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I've got Eclipses on my 240Z also. Nothing at all special, but quite adequate for my uses at this time. I've got 12k on mine now, still look great. I suspect I'll replace them due to age long before they wear out.

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Most tire shops will do the mounting for you and won't even make you feel bad that you mail-ordered them.
Maybe where you live, but not around here. After all, the local shops can't make enough profit mounting carry-in tires to stay in business. They need to sell tires...

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Mount and balance is $100 carry in, plus the shipping. Math isn't there with tire rack.

Arne, didn't you mention you spent years in a tire shop? If so, I feel a little better about the tires. Actually, I am more than comfortable with them, just seems like a hell of a lot of money.

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Jesus, i wish tires were that cheap here. First i got a quote from Costco for about $1200 for nothing too fancy 16" tires. Ended up buying a set of Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus from tirerack. Paid $764.22 and still had to pay to have them mounted on my Konig Rewinds.

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I run 245/40/18's on the roadster and they were going to be around $850 for a new set. Fortunately I knew a guy at one of the local tire shops and ended up getting the set for just a little over $600.

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Tires are a love hate thing. They are, without a doubt, the most important part on the entire car. Seems it is the last place you would want to skimp.

I am even thinking of going to 16's just so I can find GOOD performance rubber. The only thing stopping me is that the car is not really an all out screamer, since it is mostly stock and the Ultra High Performance Potenza 960A's I have on there now are truely a good match for a stock HP 240Z. Overtiring it may make the car lose some character. I even thought about going down to 14's just for the lightness.

What I will probably end up doing is keeping everything the way it is, and installing some quick steering knuckles. But my mind changes daily. I am funny that way.

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I guess there are two basic points here. One is that tires have gotten freaking expensive. I would have paid more for better IF they had been what I wanted. My choices for the wheels I have (have 3 sets of period correct, the slots, the heavy vane, and the fine vane -30 vane) are all 14 inch. I would have been happier if I would have gotten the same tire brand in a 215/60 or 225/60. I just bought a set of bridgestones for the SEC, 205/60HR16's a couple of months ago from a tire shop quite some distance from my home for over $100 less. There are more options in those tire sizes (15/16/17's). So, when it comes time to put tires on the project car, I will put on 16 Rota's and get a decent tire.

The part that chaps my arse is that they charged me $30 for 4 rubber valve stems with a chrome sleeve. These are availabe on ebay for 28 cents each. I have employees that bust their arse for $15 an hour. How can LSTC justify working for two full hours to recieve 4 rubber valve stems that are worth a dollar and twelve cents?

I will have a discussion with the manager this morning and they are likely to have the sale reversed and their merchandise back. I have 13 vehicles on the road. I am stubborn. I can find another tire dealer somewhere.

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Seems like there are more and more people out there that think they are worth 75.00 per.. Just because.

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Arne, didn't you mention you spent years in a tire shop? If so, I feel a little better about the tires.
Yeah, over 20 years total, 17 of those with Schwab, the last 7 years in management there. That ended about 13 years ago, though.

Eclipses are nothing special, but will be reliable, daily cruising tires.

Edited by Arne

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Seems like there are more and more people out there that think they are worth 75.00 per.. Just because.
They may think that but I haven't paid that little for a new tire for any vehicle I've owned in years....... Edited by sblake01

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I feel for you. I have 4 vehicles to maintain. 3 on the road constantly. Everytime fuel goes up so do tires. Probably good you got them now and not this summer. Fuel is supposed to jump again:stupid: I wouldn't want to complain and then let them touch my vehicle after though. Sucks having to go 100 mi. for other service. I am only 30 mi. from several places but even then it seems you have to order tires to get exactly what you want. I actually put one size narrower on my wifes Caddy-same height because nobody in Wichita pop. 400,000 had the right size:stupid:

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Looked there. In the end, it would have been the same. Can't get a 215/60/14 unless it is a bfg ta. Wasn't what I wanted. By the time shipping and mounting, even the cheapies were over the top expensive.

Wow! sorry to hear about your tire misfortune, where I'm at I am getting the fat tires...BF Goodrich for $500.00 out the door, and I thought that was a great deal, specially since I am getting what I want.

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I went with these: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Sumitomo&tireModel=HTR+200&partnum=97HR4HTR200&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Datsun&autoYear=1970&autoModel=240Z&autoModClar=

and am very happy with the purchase. I "negotiated" with my local Discount Tire manager and he agreed to order them in for me and charged me $72.00 mounted and balanced. At that time Tire Rack wanted $58 each plus shipping.

They are not rated for driving under 40 degrees but that is not a problem up here. My car is in storage by the time it hits 40.

They grip well and are reasonably quiet. Looks like they are on closeout at TR right now.

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sblake01 I mean't, people think their time is worth $75.00 per. hour.

Oh, gotcha.....I guess it would help if I read each post....

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The old Z sure does not need high performance tires, with 400k miles on the odometer, it's a sunny Sunday afternoon cruiser. I had to get two tires for the rear, could not match the front Nankang's. This company has gone out of buisness and they were almost new so i did not need 4, i settled with a pair of Prime Well PS850's. They ride and stop well, at $50 a piece i am happy.

Edited by kjphilippona

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