saridout Posted May 28, 2009 Share #1 Posted May 28, 2009 as some of yall know, i overheated my 76 280 recently, and my machine shop tells me that the head is shot. now i'm shopping around for a new one, and i'm a little confused. my head is an N42. i've been led to believe that an N47 will fit my year and model too. what is the significance of these codes? what heads will fit my car?i'm also a little concerned about my block. the cylinders have some striation in them, and though my nail doesn't catch on them when i run my finger around a cylinder, it doesn't feel too smooth. i can't really afford to get them bored, but i don't want to get everything back together again to find out that the block needs service. should i be concerned about these striations, or are they typical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webdawg1 Posted May 28, 2009 Share #2 Posted May 28, 2009 Are they straight up and down or are they kind of like a cross hatch pattern (I.E - like a big X all around the cylinder) If they are like a big X pattern that's pretty normal...helps the rings seat to some degree during break-in and also bore lubrication. webdawg1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saridout Posted May 28, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted May 28, 2009 they're straight up and down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedyone_kenobi Posted May 28, 2009 Share #4 Posted May 28, 2009 That probably indicates some contamination, be it from carbon or other things have been captured by the rings and has been dragged against the cylinder wall. It sounds like you will need at least a hone, if not a rebore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beandip Posted May 29, 2009 Share #5 Posted May 29, 2009 Most likely a honing will do the job , unless they are deeply scored. Knobi is correct and if you can get by honing you can use the same pistons. Basically the blocks are all the same . the 280s all have dished pistons but the different years the heads changed , but will still fit. The differences are the compression that is archived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggarrard Posted May 29, 2009 Share #6 Posted May 29, 2009 Sully - Try http://datsunzgarage.com/heads/ for a description of the various cyl heads for the L6...GWGarrard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Enigma= Posted May 29, 2009 Share #7 Posted May 29, 2009 Note that the N47 head has round exhaust ports with internal liners designed to heat up and burn any fuel that doesn't get burned in the combusion chamber. Some think these flow less than the square port heads, but there doesn't seem to be any conclusive evidence on this. Using a round port head with square exhaust manifold is thought to be fine, but not the other way around. Also note that there was a different version of the N47 used on Maximas with a L24 block that had a smaller combusion chamber and valves than the Z version of the N47 for the L28. I've heard of people using this head but believe that they require significant modifications to run pump gas due to the higher resulting compression ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saridout Posted May 30, 2009 Author Share #8 Posted May 30, 2009 thankyou ggarrard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saridout Posted June 2, 2009 Author Share #9 Posted June 2, 2009 i've found a guy locally who says he has a head off of a running '83 ZX, and i'm guessing it's a P90. if i went with a P90, what kind of mods am i going to be looking at? would my compression lessen dramatically? would i need to buy flat-top pistons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diseazd Posted June 2, 2009 Share #10 Posted June 2, 2009 Could be a P79 or P90......With flat tops, either head would give you about 8.5 to 1. To increase compression,you'll need to get someone to shave and shim the head. .080 cut will give you 10 to 1, but the cam towers and valve springs must be shimmed .080 also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue 72 Posted June 3, 2009 Share #11 Posted June 3, 2009 (edited) Note that if you put the P90 or P79 head on your dished piston motor the compression ratio will only be around 7.2:1 Edited June 3, 2009 by blue 72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saridout Posted June 3, 2009 Author Share #12 Posted June 3, 2009 argh, why do people only take photos of the spark plug side of a head?... i'm trying to see if an E31 has rectangular exhaust ports. would i need to mod anything if i used an E31? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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